G74SX 560m (192 Bit) Overclocking results & Temps

Hi everyone, I'm new to this website. It's great that you guys let us know about your scores and and everything, made me wonder : I'm getting soon my G74, do you think overclocking reduces MUCH the laptop's lifetime ? Like how much ? how much do you need to overclock to be able to see the difference ?

Thank you for responding me, I already like this forum

 

The higher you overclock , the more you'll be able to get FPS boost.

Sure , this doesn't work in every game ( i mean , i League of Legend for ex , stock values give me constant 60 FPS ) , but on games like BF3 , even a little overclock will give you an FPS boost as the game is GPU consuming especially at 1920*1080.

Especially on BF3 wich is one of the most GPU demanding game right now , you get from " near smooth " to " smooth ".

I think i get something like 5 FPS boost with a bit of overlock , nearly 10 FPS boost with high overclock.

And going from 30 to 45 or even 45 to 60 is not something you can spit on

For the laptop life , i follow advices from here telling me not to care about it , my laptop is two years warranty , i don't want to know how much this laptop can get sold in two years so i don't care , considering it will last more than 2 years , it's more than enough for me , considering i'll probably have bought a new one at when warranty will be over.

But if you're afraid , don't do it. Overclock is still something dangerous. In my case , if dangerous means enjoyable games , i give it a try. BF3 was not smooth enough for me without it , so i choose to overclock. If you play games that aren't really GPU demanding like Crysis 2 or BF3 , don't even touch the values , leave it stock.

( et j'ai du écrire en Anglais alors que tu es français à ton pseudo , donc hésite pas à demander des conseils par MP ^^ )

 

Ok, thank you very much Actually I'm not getting the top version of the g74, that means that I don't have the HD screen but same things in it (Intel Core i7-2670QM 2.2ghz, 8gigs DDR3 and 560m 3gigs ddr5), so my resolution will be 1600 x 900.
Do you think that with stock values I would run properly BF3, at that resolution ? I think to keep my g74 all along my studies, so 5 years left, I guess it's not recommended to OC in that case, is it ?
(thank you !!)

 

You have a better CPU than mine , and lower resolution so stock values may be alright imo.

BTW , take care of the GPU , two versions around , a 192 bits and a 128. Be sure you'll get the 192 one !!! ( i think 3GB are always 192 but i may be wrong )

 

Yes 3GB is always 192-bit.

Also, a reminder that you are allowed to write part of a post in another language should you want to as long as you provide the translation to go with it. So you could write your answer in french for the OP, but write the translation for the other members that do not understand french.

 

Didnt have a problem benching, but some games didn't appreciate the higher clocks (crysis 2). Pulled her back to 920 core 1600 memory and I am 100% rock solid.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G74Sx score: P2649 3DMarks

 

1.5 and 3 GB are always 192-bit, whereas 1 and 2 GB are 128-bit (like mine). However, it seems that I can get higher clocks easier, but the gain isn't as substantial. My current clocks are stable for everything, I haven't really bothered to go higher.

 

I was just telling him that seeing his nickname i was probably trying to speak english to someone who's also french , maybe i was wrong xD

Sorry for that !

 

Merci Catzoo
I'm already very used to speak english on every forum/game, and it really doesn't bother me anyway. Trains me

(Yep I had of course checked that it is 192 bits.)
Thank you guys, I appreciate that ! I will stay with stock values, it will already be a huge upgrade for me lol : my current pc is as powerful as a banana linked to a screen and a half-working keyboard, wich can sometimes burn my paws with keys set to a constant 70° while gaming -.- it is litteraly painful !

Thank you again, see you around

 

Don't even bother of overclocking for temps : that laptop has the best cooling system i've ever had.

The GPU is located between the Enter Key and numpad , so you never touch that part of the laptop. Adding the fact that it's getting " a bit " hot after HOURS of gaming with overclock ...

The palmrest ALWAYS stay cool , whenever the laptop gets "hot " or not , the only place you feel it is at the back , where the air is going out.

Even with high overclock , that laptop stay cool , far from other laptop that gets hot under it or on the palmrest when low gaming after 20 min.

 

with this overclock your gtx 560m is like a gtx 570m???

 

Well according to notebookcheck stock 570 gets around P2500 in 3dmark 11, so I guess my OC'd 560 is like a stock 570 hehe.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

I highly doubt the overclocked 560m comes close to the 570m due to more cuda cores though

 

Really? Because my 460M matches a stock 470M after my overclocking.

That's the point of overclocking mind you; Reaching a new height with a lesser card to match the big brother GPUs.

 

You doubt it? Then look at the scores a stock 570 gets on notebook check.

 

Mr Blue, do you enjoy your g74 ? ^.^

 

It can be a bit heavy to lug to class, but I do love it

 

Mr Blue.. What is ur gaming temps with that 920/1840/1600 oc?
Intrested to know
Rolling with the same oc atm

 

Tops around 65C, but it depends what game im playing. Games like Crysis 2 will push it to 65, but playing Assassins creed revelations it would only get up to about 60C. I really dont notice any change in temps with the overclock and without.

 

The problem is that nearly doesn't make sense since you probably can overclock the 570 to look like a 580 etc.. xD

BTW , people who are reading this probably owns a G74 and like to overclock , so they may answer my question : why is it impossible to overclock the CPU like other CPU with softs like SetFSB or else ? Due to new sandy bridge thing ?

Will it be possible later , or is it "hardware " impossible ? Cause people seems to overclock a lot GPU , but i didn't read anything about CPU overclock.

 

Yes, it is due to the Sandy Bridge architecture. Intel has locked down the BCLK pretty tightly because there are now too many things relying on it other than the CPU and memory frequency if my memory serves me right.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3922/intels-sandy-bridge-architecture-exposed/8

 

I'll try to read carefully and try to understand everything , thanks !

Do people here expect this " lock down " to be "forced" or " passed over via software " in a near future ?

I just checked how to unmount the G74 , look a pain to do to switch CPU ( adding the warranty lost and higher CPU price )

 

Buying a new cpu because of pushing it too far would be very disappointing ^^ that would hurt my feelings pretty bad !
My parents received my future G74, I'm going back home asap to get it ! My hands are already shaking ;D I just can't play any more on my piece of crap anymore, after videos I've seen about crysis 2, bf3, witcher 2, skyrim... when minecraft keeps crashing and counter strike can't run properly x)
And I do some 3D, with sketchup and indigo to render it better. I've got a screenshot of my task manager : 1mo RAM available, cpu @100% for 3 hours long. At that state, even moving the mouse is laggy, and launching the screenshot app of vista nearly crashed my computer (it took 3min to appear !)

 

Oh, I was wondering, having 12Go RAM instad of 8, is that really effective ?

 

Unless you need it, no. I only upped my G73 to 12GB for CFD simulations, i never reach over 8GB otherwise. Check RAM usage for the worst possible usage scenario for you and if you are still well below 8GB, no need to upgrade. Even with a multitude of tabs opened in my browser, SCII, a media player and a few other programs running at the same time i barely hit over 5GB.

 

Ok, so it actually doesn't change anything on the general speed of the machine.
Thank you !

I've seen something on the internet, someone talked about (for those who have 2 HDD's in their g74) making the two HDD in RAID 0. I don't actualy know what it is but I get the general idea, does anyone have done this ? What does it do exactly ? If I have a G74 with one hdd, buy a new one, how to make them RAID 0 ?

Hope you guys will understand my poor english
By the way, I've received my g74 yesterday, the box is just teasing me too badly. I have to wait to open it, I turn 18 in 4 days !

 

Raid 0 lets your computer spread data across two or more drives for increased performance. For example, you have a program that takes a long time to load, on Raid0 it is going to load faster because part of it is on each drive. So instead of 1 drive looking to load 2gb of data, each drive can look for 1gb of data simultaneously to load your program faster.

Keep in mind that if you have 2 drives in Raid0 and one drive fails you lose all your data. Although I remember hearing that the G74 doesn't support raid, but I could be mistaken.

 

What am I doing wrong? How come I only get

@900 Core /1600 Memory
P2376

 

editted.

10chars

 

can you link to your score?

 

Ok, thank you Mr Blue ! So, assuming you have all your data safe on external drive, it's a good idea to go RAID 0 ! It's is available on the A1, but i'm not sure for the other versions :/

 

nvm I updated to beta drivers and got P2679 @ 920 / 1600 gonna push higher!

 

I don't see the point of Raid 0 now that SSD drives are becoming affordable ( and Raid 0 SSD drives is just something stupid imo )

Just buy an SSD if you want awesome speed , and keep one HD for data and you'll be ok !

 

Well the point is he probably doesnt have an SSD and might already have 2 hdds.

 

i thought G74 didn't support Raid anyway ?

I still don't understand the point of having 1/2 HDD space for a small performance boost.

I mean , unless you do specific task , Momentus XT are fast enough for everyday life.

 

Raid 0 doesn't reduce your storage capacity....

 

You're right , sorry , misunderstood with raid 1.

Anyway , there's still disadvantage of Raid 0 : if one disk fail , you lost everything.

Anybody here already tried Raid 0 on G74 and see a real improvement that's interesting enough to get thoses disadvantages ?

 

Actually I was wondering what would be best, between a nice SSD or a RAID0. The g74 does support it, at least the A1 because it is sold already in raid 0.
Does anyone have a SSD on his g74 ? was it hard to get the OS on the ssd ? does it really boost performances ?

EDIT : What would you guys think of a Velociraptor, as a second HDD ? 10000 tours/min, seems to rock pretty bad. And for 221€ you got 600 Go, and it still has a nice speed and everything, might be even easier to use ! You don't even have to take care of not rewriting to much on it, at the contrary to the SSD ! But I'mnot sure it will fit.

 

Can we rrun bf3 with DX10 instead of dx11 to have better performance? how can i switch it?

 

If you want to go Higher, go get Nvidia Inspector, and Select Unlock Max at Perfomance 2 Profile

 

Since when does the G74SX support RAID?

The HM65 chipset in the G74SX does not support hardware RAID. The PM65 chipset does.

case: 1584648

 

Better switch to the topic i created " Battlefield 3 Tweaks " to answer.

There's a console command ( blablaDirectX11 Enable : 1 or 0 ) , but i never feel like it changes anything. We should have something like 20FPS boost by disable DX11 and the game should be way more ulgy , and it's not the case.

Maybe that command didn't work , or i didn't get the difference as my game is already on low settings.

 

I wouldn't think it would change anything to disable DX11 as there is almost no tesselation in the game. Don't really know what is so DX11 about it. Still a great game through.

 

Whats a good program to use for overclocking?

EDIT: I went to guru and got EVGA percision after i posted this comment. Loving it. The tool was so intuitive and informative that I managed to get the GPU going at 877/1754/1442 and not pass 62C playing Skyrim and Shogun 2 for extended periods. Being such a noob tho, I dare not go much further than this! Gained a satisfying 300p in 3Dmark11.

EDIT2: Tried 905/1810/1500 and it topped out at 71C after 20min of furmark extreme burn.

 

Nvidia inspector is really cool , didn't save your overclock after each restart like Evga Precision , but it allows you easily to create desktop icons for several overclock speed.

For ex , i have one for " mid " overclock for games that need a bit more power , i have to do nothing for games like LoL on wich stock values are ok , and one for super overclock for BF and Crysis.

 

Ill check out this Nvidia inspector tool. Question though, why do you use different levels of OC for different games? Does maintaining a higher OC have long term effects on the GPU even if temperatures are maintained at a safe level?

 

Overclocking is pushing hardware to it's physical limits , so , according they are " more demanding " and " more hot " , i may think that overclock will " wear and tear " my GPU faster.

I may be wrong , but as i have thoses shortcuts ready , why would i let my GPU and the whole laptop goes hot where it can stays cool ?

People will say that no , overclock won't break anything , but i'm sure that an overclocked card will last more than a stock values one.

 

hi, i am newbie here
i have msi gt683R,
here is my benchmark

3D mark vantage

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/3dmarkvantagehighest.jpg/

3D mark 11

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/3dmark11965.jpg/

 

On 290.36
924/1848/1606 vantage - 11157 , 11 - 2689, 06 - 16696
924/1848/1733 vantage - 11332 , 11 - 2706, 06 - 16841 3dmark06 refusing to climb over 17k (.
max 57c
cpu2630
gtx 560m 3g
ram 8g
hdd 1000 (7200)

 

at 3D mark vantage, look at GPU score, not 3D mark vantage score, that determines ur GPU ability.

3D mark 06 i got the highest 169xx, gonna post soon.
i am using msi gt 683R