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    G74SX 560m (192 Bit) Overclocking results & Temps

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by dizzyscure1, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. pau1ow

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    2720qm es and 460m : 3dmark06 17587 :p but OK lower on vantage and 11 ! :p but not by much at all
     
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    1848 / 1733 is stable ?

    Everytime i try to go further than 1600 on memory clock, BF crashes 1 game / 2 ... ( maybe it's that ty game anyway )

    Max 57° ... in 3dmark ? Furmark get way higher than this with lower oc ...

    @Pau1ow : 3Dmark seems to get significant higher score with higher CPU. Just look at new G74 compare with the old one ( 2630QM ) , it gets like 1K boost. You have a 2720 , you'll get higher scores.
     
  3. irfan wikaputra

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    i can run max, at 965/1930/1739 :D, thats for benchmark
    about stability, 955/1910/1720, completely stable
    try to change ur power supply to 180 watts
     
  4. Masami1975

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    At this point your 560m is faster than a 6970m?
     
  5. irfan wikaputra

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    nah, it's about the stock speed of ati 6970m according to 3d mark vantage of GPU score of 6970m in notebookcheck.net
     
  6. Catzoo

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    That really helps ? Wich model / brand ?

    Edit : nevermind , have an MSI , would probably not be the same.
     
  7. irfan wikaputra

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    yes, sadly asus g74 has only one adapter model
    but why dont u try targus 180 watt adapter. it suits mine despite of different brand. but i am not sure about asus g74
     
  8. Catzoo

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    What does it really change ? Cause it won't send more " power " to the GPU no ?
     
  9. irfan wikaputra

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    yes of course. the problem here is that the laptop when overclocked to that clock needs more power. in some review, it was measured 123 - 195 watt when both cpu+gpu is fully loaded. e.g. : 3d mark 11, prime 95, pc mark vantage, 3d mark vantage, etc
     
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    Review MSI GT780R Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    here is the example, the power consumed is fluctuating when fully loaded, sometime surpasses 150 watt of the adapter, so thats why the cpu or gpu clocks down again to compensate the adapter
    correct me if i am wrong. i am still learning too :D
     
  11. Catzoo

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    Wasn't saying you're wrong , was just wondering.

    Was also thinking that , if the " crashes " were due to laptop power , that would totally crash it , or shutdown the whole thing , not just " exiting " game returning to desktop ...

    I can also be wrong , but this looks like more a driver crash in my case than a real " power crash " i've already seen on desktop when GPU is requiering too much power , the whole pc shutdown or reboot , not just close " what takes power " ( wich have , " eletrical talking " , no sens ... Exept if windows have something inside that says " oh too much power needed i won't reboot i'll close app " , but it seems strange )

    However , when the game crash , all my overclock settings goes to stock on nvidia inspector ...
     
  12. irfan wikaputra

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    lol, yea that makes sense. except for the part windows can say something like that.
    as i said i might be wrong. i just said it based on the review. i faced those kinds of things too, nvidia driver crashes. using 290.53 currently. what cause cpu throttle anyway?

    btw, just wondering. how much is ur max clock on gtx 560m?
     
  13. Catzoo

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    Never tried to reach the max , i just use 900 | 1600 | 1800 , when i try to go over 1600 memory it seems to crash a bit more , never tried to go further 1820 shader clock.
     
  14. irfan wikaputra

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    well, every card has different ability though, some can clocks higher, others dont. anyway, gtx 560m is gonna be obsolete soon, i am scared!lol
     
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    i think mine is already , as i can't have solid 60FPS on BF3 on ultra low ... That annoys me a bit already.
     
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    :(. i also play on auto settings with texture is ultra, hbao on, full anti aliasing and the rests are high. i get like 25-36 fps only. :(. i really need to change card
     
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    How the hell can you play @25 FPS ?

    What a disadvantage ...
     
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    After trying every possible setting in BF3 I got so fed up tonight and switcht to low. Wat a revelationwith vsync on running at a steady 60fps.

    The biggest surprise was the graphics quality expecting 1980's graphics but is was still great. Nor for a moments thought hmm that looks bad or so. Try it you'll be verry happy. Oh and don't forget to increase your field of view to 90 degrees it opens up a whole new world
     
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    Didn't break performance to up FOV ?

    Sure i also play on low ( actually , everything low , FXAA Disabled by consol comand to really disable it , HBO SSAO etc. Off , and terrain to medium to have texture and block poping every second , and the game still looks nice )

    I also have Vsync ON , triple buffering enabled by console , i have a 2-5 fps boost by switching it off , but the tearing is just horrible )

    btw , what config do you have BlueVFRank ?
     
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    Hey guys, I have a question about overclocking.

    I overclocked my G74SX to 905/1810/1500 using evga precision and it seems to work fine, temperatures are low and Ive never seen artifacts appear in games or benchmarking tests. However, sometimes in games, the screen goes black for half a second and recovers. When that happens, my OC is reset to stock and my Nvidia desktop color settings reset.

    Games never slow down and there are never any spikes in temperature to indicate that it would happen, it just seems totally random. I usually tab out and reapply the overclock... but I am starting to wonder if it is safe.. It has happened in BF3 and Crysis 2 so far.

    At first i thought it was an emergency thing built into the card to prevent overheat, but the highest I have ever see it go is 65C

    So what does this mean? What is the cause?

    EDIT: I was using 290 beta drivers so I switched to 285 to see if it was just a bug, but it still happens.
     
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    The performance drop by upping the FOV is hardly noticable.

    I'm running a G73SW Core i7 2630QM @ 2 GHz with a 460 at the high voltage setting and a 256GB Samsung 830 next to my 2x 500 Momentus XT.
    Checking this topic because i'm making up my mind if I want to switch to a 560.

    Probably change out the processor first and hope Asus will come with a faster card that fits sometime in 2012.

    I'll try disabeling FXAA. I'm currently looking in to those custom FXAA injectors. The colors are a lot better, let me correct that. there are colors. Instead of the Artist rendering you have in the original game.
     
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    What's FXAA Injector ?

    BTW , any ideas on why my colors seems " washed " ? On every PC / Battlefield screenshot , colors looks warm as hell , and on my laptop it looks like if the brightness was way too high ( wich is not the case as i'm use not to have brightness too high )
     
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    btw, i run battlefield 3 with the auto settings detected by the game itself is very good already (speed and quality). like i mentioned, texture ultra, anistropic filter 16x, hbao ON and the rest is high. i will post the video soon in youtube :D
    FXAA is actually fast anti aliasing right?it increase fps with as minimum as possible of image reduction?
     
  25. Catzoo

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    Well , i should not have washed colors if i disable all AA no ? :/

    Irfan , with thoses settings , what is your average FPS ?

    I suppose around 40 ... ( still not enough for me )
     
  26. irfan wikaputra

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    the heaviest thing is the HBAO, if turn it off, the watery and shiny looks of the environment will disappear and will look drier. yes, that one is around 43-53 fps
    rarely 40. but let me tell u one thing in BF3.
    overclock doesnt really improve much :(.
    what is ur gaming clocks btw?what about temps?i heard g74 has very good cooling
     
  27. Catzoo

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    Yeah it has , i tried once 920 mhrtz with furmark running for about 25 min , never get over 68°

    In my case , overclock has MUCH improve my BF3 FPS , something like at least 10 !

    i use to play at 900mhrtz ( 900/1800/1600 ) , every time i try to go further the game crash after 20 min , where benchmark never crash ...

    Weird , so i use that values and from 775 to 900 i use , i get at least 10 fps boost.

    But yes , the G74 cooling system is the best i've ever see on a laptop , far above any alienware products.
     
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    I'll check this !

    BTW , i reduce my OC to 880 , and my gamer never crashed since one week , where it crash once every two games before.

    I read a few things about BF having his own " Overclock " settings , like if it was overclocking by himself ( what would explain why it crashes at only 900 where at 920 it's stable with furmark )

    Anybody got infos on this ?
     
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    Average of about P2664 @ 920/1840/1625
    It's been running crysis 2 and skyrim for hours with no problems. Max temp overall at about 71 degrees which was the same max temp as mine at 900/1800/1625.
    Gonna push it harder next time I game
     
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    Could be nice to have a " Battlefield 3 " bench , as it seem in my case to crash with high overclock where no other programs like Crysis 2 or Furmark seems to ...
     
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    I'll try BF3 next time I play. Whats the highest overclock you can go without crashing?
     
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    I use to play at 900 wich seems reasonable to me ( 900 / 1800 / 1600 ) and the game was always crashing ( for like one month i play with a crashing game , thought it was the whole install or my laptop ) , until i try 920 , and it was even worse.

    So , i try to go back a lil' bit to 880 / 1760 / 1600 , and the game never crashed a single time since i use thoses settings. So , i assume that 900 is already too far for it with my GPU.

    Also , i say it again , the laptop seems stable at 920 on other apps ...
     
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    I've played it a good amount on 900/1800/1625 without any problems so I don't know...I don't know a ton about overclocking but isnt that pretty low for it to be crashing?
    I'll try a higher clock when I play tomorrow and see if anything happens
     
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    I have mine at 880 for BF3. I had it at 900 thoughout single player and it was perfectly fine, but in the 64p conquests it would crash every 3rd or 4th game and cause the game window to minimize and not respond :/

    Try 880, according to fraps it only decreases the average fps by like 1 or 2.. I tried 890 and it seemed stable, but eventually crashed after a big fight in the woods which ended in a helecopter crashing into my tank and the whole screen exploding. ..My grammar died.
     
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    When it crash , sometimes it goes to windows , sometimes the screen split with weird grey errors , noise go BIIIIIIIP and i have to stay 5 sec on power button to shutdown the laptop ... and i don't like that kind of bug.

    When i saw people from Gentech playing Crysis 2 @ 940/1880/1500 without crashing ... too bad BF3 cannot handle thoses settings.
     
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    My crysis 2 crashes at 905 randomly after anywhere from 5min - 2hours of play :/
     
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    On Asus " Republic of gamer " Facebook page , they seem to have introduce a new Overclock tool , anybody test it ?

    Is it just a new version from GPU Z ?

    Cause they announce Voltage moding , dunno if it was also for laptop ... an official overclock Asus tool with voltage moding , could be a dream no ?
     
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    So, every 560m can reach 880mhz rock solid?
     
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    No, there will always be a few exceptions. It's that way with all video cards, most G73Jh owners can hit 800/1100, i can't hit 1100 on the memory without getting lockups. The only way to find out is to try it.
     
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    Seems ok to reach 880 as people here seems to have reach WAY higher like 940 being stable at thoses frequencies , 880 didn't seem like something huge no ?

    Well mine is not solid anymore after 900 it seem :/
     
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    i oc my dual 560m sli to
    core: 900
    shader: 1800
    memory: 1400

    reaching max 92c tho without oc it reaches 90c with burnin.

    installed new nvidia drivers and now i cant oc anything or my driver crashes.
    so im going back to original driver from the reseller.
    this oc is stable for me but in some cases is crashes the driver.
    then need reboot.
    this is not always, so most of the time i oc it a bit lower to:

    core: 850
    shader: 1700
    memory: 1350

    running much more stable

    got the p180hm from clevo.
    so i guess the asus has better cooling?

    when i turn sli off using 1 card and overclocking it its the same oc i use, but then i dont get any crashes on first oc
     
  43. irfan wikaputra

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    @kaasop92

    dude, how much is ur WEI rating for aero and gaming graphic?
    did u do any 3D mark vantage or 3D mark 2011 benchmark?
     
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    both on 7.6
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    nice man, try to overclock it
    i got 7.4 from a single card :D

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    gotta reinsta my old driver cus new drver wont let me oc it, it crashes in the second its starting a benchmark :p
     
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    on 7.7 now with
    core: 900
    shader: 1800
    memory: 1400

    i can try higher ^^
     
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    nice man, try some 3D mark vantage, it should be awesome!!
    try the new man, 290.53, it is more stable in overclocking for my laptop
    my highest clock was 966 core/1932 shader/1739 memory
     
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    It's pretty cool to compare with laptop from other brand like MSI with a single GTX 560 , but you should open another topic to compare scores from G74SX with brands that offers the ability to use SLI cards , wich is in our case impossible !
     
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