G74SX 560m (192 Bit) Overclocking results & Temps

that was crashing on each oc i tryd. im going back to 285 it works better for my sli.

u wanne know the 3dmark06 or 11?

@Catzoo
ill think about making a topic about the 560m & sli
because the sli doesnt support that high oc, any driver would crash with it.
imma try with the 850 now.

btw ur 560gtx is 3gb?
how is that possible with 1 560gtx? i got 3gb with 2x 560.
i really dont understand that part since 560gtx single doesnt has 3gb or shared ?

 

alright, so ive did some oc testing
the max i can set without crashing my driver is :
clock: 966
shader: 1932
memory: 1625

after this it just crashes

il make a new topic with benchmarks !

 

You know , G74SX GTX560 are not standard card , they are " integrated " on the Motherboard , so it may depends from yours ...

dunno how it is " possible " as you said , but my DXDIAG tell me that i'm 3GB , and the sticker on my laptop also do

BTW , having a " 3GB " card changes what ? Can i overclock more " core " or " memory " because of thoses 3GB ?

I assume that other people here also have 3GB cards ...

 

lol its integrated? omg thats lame.
cant even switch then?

so far i know the gtx 560m has 1536mb, atleast thats what every specs site says.
maybe its a special version for asus idk.

the strange part is, i thought there where no single cards with more then 2gb, like the ati 6990 and gtx580 dont even go higher then 2gb.
thats why i was asking

btw a benchmark i did without oc

 

Yes, ASUS G74SX have 3 GB GTX 560m 192Bit bus.
It's a special version built into the motherboard.

I cannot imagine any good reason why they went over 2 GB, maybe it had something to do with those VRAM chips being available.

Or it's a special marketing step.
In any case i don't think if a application will require over 2GB VRAM, a GTX560Ti chip will be enough for it.

Edit: Of course there are exclusions from the general rule like the BestBuy version of the laptop (gotta somehow justify the price). Which is crippled to 2 GB 128 Bit VRAM and as far as I've read does not overclock as well as the native 192 Bit versions.

PS: I have a clock of 900Mhz/1800Mhz/1600Mhz (gpu/shader/memory) as 3D profile clocks in MSI afterburner for 2 months now, works like a charm.
Would be awesome if manufacturers would use one standard for laptop video cards (i mean bios support) and figure some way to make heat sinks universal for future upgrade sake aswell as broader compatibility.

 

God , 18500 without OC is a pretty good score without overclock ! Yeah , you have two cards , and a 2670 ( 1K score better than 2630 on 3DM2K6 )

So , as i do around 15000 - 15500 without OC , your second card give you 1K boost ...

and no , we can't swap it ... worst thing about my G74 ...

 

using : 900Mhz/1800Mhz/1600Mhz (gpu/shader/memory)

i startup 3dmark06 and it just goes down again with directx error and windows saying my driver program is not responding....

i really dont know how u ppl can oc and i cant without getting a crash.

edit:
working on :850/1700/1500 without crash now, gonna do a new benchmark

 

My guess is that u could try updating to 290.35 (or whatever is the latest beta driver) and using MSI afterburner 2.10
Also check what voltage does your card have when in max mode by default.(since it can't be increased) Maybe you have a lower voltage.(mine has 0.96V)


Second guess would be your card just has a lower max oc since it's a lottery most of the time.

 

the 290.35 isnt there, only the 290.36
atleast thats what the site says.ill try it anyway.

il also download new afterburner

edit:
did a oc on my cards,
getting a even lower rate then without oc? lol

both on 1.00V

 

this is my 3D mark 06 with the the max clock
ps : dont forget i am using i7 2630qm (slower proc)



Uploaded with ImageShack.us

 

Maybe it's the a price you have to pay with dual 560m cards.
Try higher clock on gpu itself and a lower clock on vram.

Sorry i meant the 290.53
It can very well be that the chips themself are not that overclock friendly.

 

how to change vram?
srry still dont know everything of a vga

im running 290.53 now but it wont let me go higher then 880/1760/1550

getting 10 fps more on skyrim everything maxed out

 

I don't know if u can change the voltage, and even IF i would be REALLY CAREFULL.

 

im not gonna play with voltage, i dont wanne burn down my laptop+house hehe.

anyway i tryd al beta drivers, the driver my reseller gave and newest released driver.
nothing lets me oc higher then 880/1760/1550

i can ty to up memory a bit but not core nd shader, driver just crashs

 

Irfan you use an older version of 3Dmark that gives you higher scores , and have different test. ( but i may be wrong )

If you still have the test with the woman meeting two trolls and a river with a butterfly , you have the old version , and your result is not accurate.

 

nope, of course not. it was the woman getting shot by bunch of guys n she was trying to escape and new calico (a lot of jets in space). i even updated it to the last version. look at my clock man, 966/1932/1739 are damn high n it didnt even have artifact

 

Mhmhmh no women in the latest version i think. ( you had to redownload the whole thing if i'm right )

If i remember well , the old 3D06 begin with old planes from WW fightings , where the new version starts with a gunfight in something that looks like a futurist space base.

And yeah , good clocks xD

 

alright2, i will download the latest just for u and post it soon
how bout ur asus, show some bencmarks mate

 

Some results gaming mode

Spoiler

bench




To compare msi 780 with i5 + 570 standart


turbo

 

I'll do a clean install soon ( after my exam , last one tomorrow \o/ ) , then i'll try to push it a bit =)

Actual score were like :

06 : 16615
11 : P2526
Vantage : P9268

 

great. but are you rock solid at 900mhz? at this clock is faster than 570m?

 

Pretty well, i use 290.36, and 900/1800/1600 for gaming, this is level of i5+570 standard

I have no need in 931/1862/1733 , it is also stable and no impact on temperature .

This ,931/1862/1733 ,level of i5+570 in turbo , but 570 always has room for more .

Anyway, level of present games is tied with consoles, which will be without upgrade few years more ( sony ps3 ). Company have a lot money on consoles .

In this this situation , g74 is is enough , and there sense to have later , 1-2 years , g76 or g77

By now ,i am not exited by upcoming g75, it has separated fans , my g74 , while gaming, placed on laps and one big fan exhaust is exactly between legs .

New one, g75, in this position will fry knees .

So, i am happy with 560 in my g74, especially with cooling solutions design. I prefer to keep always g74 on sofa or lap, and so glad that there is no need anymore in cooling pad .

Only one bitter me, after some time , i have to dismantlement all laptop to clean it from dust .

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P11661 3DMarks

new vantage of gtx 560m in msi gt 683r

 

965 core ?

BTW , you have 800mhrtz Memory , you know that helped you a bit to have higher score ?

 

hey guys, new 3D mark vantage result. core 966 mhz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P11911 3DMarks

 

Bro you're crazy xD

How about temps after such bench ?

 

thx broo.. . i been doing this coz recently some people are forgetting about the "power" of gtx 560m. it's all bcoz of msi gt 683/780 DX which has gtx 570m in those. i have the same laptop as them but it feels like i am in different league. i know gtx 570m has huge potential in overclocking, but gtx 560m has too. at least it beat a heavily overclocked radeon 5850/5870, even the top scorer!
and yea, max temp was 68 degree celcius, i have U3 with mod air-sucking little but powerful fan (made by myself )



Uploaded with ImageShack.us

edit : that fan i had adjustable 0-24 volt adapter connecting with it. i put it 9v and i was sure it pulled at least 3000 RPM

 

I don't get it , how's the GTX 560 from MSI are different from other ? ( i know , they are MXM cards not like Asus from this topic , but does it have differents specs ?

Did anybody here on thoses 28 pages manage to get stable such high OC with the integrated 560 ?

Did you change your ram to have HyperX ?

EDIT : found someone on youtube that claims to reach core:989 shader:1978 memory: 1250 ... Anybody here ? xD

 

well, every card has different max clock. the clock of one might damage the others and vice versa. yea i have hyperX ram, it boost the loading only.
hemm, with memory 1250 mhz, i can pull out 1.05Ghz. u believe it?

 

I'd believe it after 4 hours of BF3 without the huge crashing i experienced if i go over 890 Core @ 1600 Memory Crash every 20 min

But now you said it ,i'm currently trying to push core with lower memory. How about performance in that case ? Are shaders " more import " to boost FPS than memory ? Is it the same ? Depend on games ?

Edit : just tried something like 935 core / 1500 memory , instant crash after 2 min ( even with higher clocks , furmark burn in is ok ... but no BF -_- )

 

here is the pic .

Spoiler

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

just for fun though, i can play bf3 for 10 minutes with this clock. the performance gain is superb with tons of artifacts!
BF3 my max stable clock is 955 which pull 25-38 FPS in ultra settings of BF3. 966 also would do, but sometimes crash like an hour or two.

basically there are 2 categories, benchmark and gaming

in benchmark balance between shaders and memory are very needed, once u hit that balance, it's ur max performance. let's say u have high shaders but less bandwith, it will give u less performance than a good balance between shaders n memory. for example in my case, when i did 972mhz/1944mhz with 1728mhz memory, it scored less compare to when i did 966/1932 with 1739 memory. in 3D mark vantage, the difference was 100-200 in GPU score. weird right?

but in game, memory doesnt really count as for example a 75 GB bandwith (around 1500-1550mhz memory) will do very well in everygame. while shaders really count here, every single mhz improve ur FPS

i see, thats bad, i dont get it why it is quite a different between ur core/shader and mine. well, try to update to beta 295.51 from nvidia mate , it boost me 300 in GPU score of 3D mark vantage

 

I do 880 for everything now. All the games run just fine at 1080p, maybe with some things like AA deferred turned down a bit. Pusing the card to 925 crashes more demanding games after a while.. and the easier games that dont crash.. well.. dont need the extra juice anyways.

 

You need it, only for BF sure, but i feel the need to have rock solid 60FPS ( at least over 50 all time ) which is not the case ...

That's why i try to push my card further to grab a few FPS, but 890 is 100% stable on BF, every time i try to go further it crashes ( but League of Legend is stable for ex, but it's perfectly useless as i'm rock solid 60 on stock clock on very high )

I know i should have try to get more info, but when i bought my laptop, i tried BF3 Beta @ friend who had a desktop GTX 460, and the game was 60FPS on high.

So , when i saw that the G74 had a GTX560 , i was kinda glad and was hoping to run the game at least as well as my friend. What a disapointement at first launch ... After a few search , i was kinda disapointed that thoses mobile card are so fkrin weak , they should just use same name for card with same specs or near same specs, not 3 gen backward ...


OH , BTW ! I just saw that your card got 1V power , wich is what the G74 needs to get thoses clocks ... no ?

 

new 3d mark vantage, a bump of 20 in GPU score. i really want to break 11k GPU score
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P11923 3DMarks

well, obtaining 50 FPS in which setting?ultra is completely impossible for a gtx 560m. maybe high, i will try to show some game play after i make my highest clock stable . yes so true, the name is far from expectation. a max gtx 560m would be equivalent to gtx 550 Ti with a same clock settings. but in max overclock, gtx 550 Ti can pull 1.1ghz or even more (due to higher voltage, probably around 1.1-1.2)
yes, mine is running on 1V, and all the gtx 560m should run on 1V. isn't it?

 

No bro, i can't have over 50 FPS all the time on very low ( exept textures that are on high or ultra , cause it seem to change nothing in term of FPS ) , i mean everything on low + console commands to improve it ( disable all SSAO / HBAO , FXAA disable etc .. ) ...

On some maps , i'm at 60 FPS on half the map, but on most of them ( especially B2K ones ) , i go from 60 inside sometimes to 40-50 , i'd say the average would be 45-50 )

I'm thinking of doing a clean install just to be sure ...

 

hi bro, i tried it yesterday. when the game is intense, my FPS was 35-37 and when i am in the tank, i got 50-60 FPS all the time. all settings were auto (all high, HBAO ON, Anistropic filter 16x, texture ultra and the rest are high). when i move to ultra, the game ran at 22-31 FPS in intense and 30-40 when i am in the tank. BF3 is really2 heavy for gtx 560m .

PS : all the FPS was on 966/1932/1739 clock

clean install of which?the laptop or bf3?

 

Both , but i was talking about the laptop , i never did a clean install as it seems to works great before BF3.

Can you please do a test on low ( with only textures on ultra ) ? So i can see if you're at 60 fps all the time

( i think at 966 you should, as at 775 i'm far from it, and at 890 , my max stable OC , i get way higher fps )

 

Im having issues with battlefield 3 with the gtx 560m in the g74sx. I have mine overclocked to 850 on the core and 1500 on the memory. I keep experiencing lag spikes where I see the GPU usage go down to like 59% for a couple of seconds, it happens more frequently the longer im in a game, when its not overclocked I haven't experienced this.

This only happens in battlefield 3, skyrim runs beautifully with only a few settings turned down (1080p).

On battlefield 3 it normally runs at around 40-50 fps usually and goes as low as 35 under normal conditions. However when the GPU usage goes down to 50% the fps plummets, and it can happen for a few seconds at a time, making the game completely unplayable.

Does anyone know what is the problem here? Is it a driver problem or does my over-clock not like battlefield 3? I experience no artifacts whilst playing and all other games play perfect, but I get these awful spikes quite often after being in a game on battlefield 3 for 15 minutes or more.

EDIT: Updated my sig so you can see my full specs

 

Could it actually be a CPU problem? Try "ThrottleStop" to stop the cpu from throttling and see if that eliminates the problem. If this is happening when tanks blow up the side of buildings, thats normal on high or ultra effects settings. Mine tends to drop down to around 15-20fps for a second right as the buildings crumble.

 

Yes it could be i suppose, im not getting high temps, maybe 65 max after a few hours on the GPU and a little higher on CPU.

It does tend to happen in intensive scenes so yea, i will try throttlestop although i was a little scared to use it before :/

Is there any risk I could overload the psu if i use throttlestop?

EDIT: just to let you know these slowdowns happen for sometimes as long as 5 seconds.

I also ran furmark and prime95 and noticed the CPU clock at 800MHz after a while. It could be possible that after a while it runs at 800MHz in BF3 and when something cpu intensive happens, it is too much for the cpu at 800Mhz, and it lags.

Anyone know any good programs for monitoring CPU clocks while in-game?

 

Use Throttlestop 4.0 and your problem is sort out. Just set it like that:
And "Turn on"

 

You have to tick the Clock modulation and Chipset clock mode ?

And no BD PROCHOT ? I read on a topic from Chasisty than you should tick only BD PROCHOT to prevent throtling ... ?

Sandybridge Throttle Issue and Workaround

 

I didnt need it to remove my throttle problems (with 6990m and 580m, no probs with 460m)

 

Fresh install ? BOBOBOBOOOOSTER

BF3 runs way better now.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G74Sx score: P11216 3DMarks @ 925 Mhrtz 1500 Memory , will try to push it a bit , and try thoses settings in game to see if it still crash !

Edit : 25 min gameplay ( better than before ) then , crash @ 925 on BF :'(

Definately , this card can't go that far on this game without a few more power input ( 1V could be great , seeing what you can reach )

Modbios anyone ?

PS : pau1ow , amazing score on 3DMV compare to my fresh new benchmark , nearly twice more points from GTX 560 to 580 ( with higher CPU also ) , great !

I'd love to see gaming performance IRL

 

What is the newest Nvidia driver available for G74SX GTX 560m? link to download? haven't played bf3 in two months.

 

ahah! thanks guys! so far so good havent seen any lag spikes, my cpu now runs at 2.6Ghz nicely on battlefield 3, as opposed to 800 :L

Im using throttlestop as you said, just hope it dosent cause any problems in the future.

CPU is running at under 70 degrees mostly so thats nice too

 

Im thinking of overclocking my card further, im currently at 850 core and 1500 memory, i dont wana push the memory more, i dont need the bandwidth, do you think i should push the core to 900?

EDIT: what is the best way of checking stability, currently i just play games for a while and if i see no artifacts I say its ok, but i would turn it down as soon as I saw any, is furmark a better way to test stability?

 

To me gaming is the best way to check stability The good thing with the newer GPUs is that they will automatically downlock if they are running too hot or out of spec tolerances so nothing to worry about.

BF3 is to me the best stability tester as I always had to downclock my GPU (460m 6990m 580m) slightly to make it run without any crashing...

Also, you might consider flashing your stable freq as well as I found out that with the stock voltage (0.87v), I couldnt run over 740mhz on core (bench or gaming) while by flashing the wanted clocks (750+), the games and benches coped well with it and no more crashes.

However, I am now using 0.92v vbios which gives some additional clocks boost.

Catzoo,
To be faire, I went from 460M to 6990M and now 580M, my 460M was a beast (865/1650) but I noticed the improvement when I did go for the 6990M (that I o/ced of course). However, this 580M runs BF3 so smoothly although I am just using it at 900p for that game (2nd monitor)
High preset, just ultra textures give me from 55 to 100fps, would say steady ~65-70fps avg, nothing really spectacular it seems but so far I am very happy with that.

Will certainly get about 50fps @ Full hd high preset (same as 560ti clocks capability) but I want the game to be as smooth as possible)

 

well I am running throttlestop (had major problems with cpu throttling, read above posts) so i dont know about GPU automatically downclocking, but the G74 keeps everything very cool, so I should be alright temperature wise, i dont plan on going higher than 900, 1500 tbh. Im usually getting 61-62 on the GPU and 10 degrees higher on CPU so its pretty good

 

Where do i download nvidia 290.36 driver for gtx 560m? do i have to find the notebook version or does the one from nvidia work?