How to Fix Your GSOD Blues

Are you really idle? Are you using the Aero UI?

 

Also, although I've never experienced it myself, Ziddy reports having Steam running in the background causes the 405/700 clock fluctuations too.

 

are kidding me? i have windows 7 installed on my desktop, which has an ati 4870 and it doesn't do that.. and windows 7 doesn't need clocking up the gpu to use Aero..
my way to solving that is putting poweplay on battery save mode (even connected).. and in that mode the aero performs very well..

 

I never get clock fluctuations in idle (or something as minor as surfing the web), but im darn sure i have nothing special running in the background, and i do use Aero with all the goodies enabled.

 

I installed the new vBios and the 10.8 drivers but I still cant play starwars force unleashed or company of heroes with ultra shading. Has anybody else had these issues?

BTW, couldnt play them before the upgrade.

 

I've had no issues playing SW:TFU.

 

My ultra works fine, the game works fine too.

 

COH did slow down after my update as well. It's playable but with 8 players it drags. Dropping back to DX9 fixes it. Not really a solution but makes it very smooth again.

Cheers,

 

Okay, another update on my unusual driver issues: I cleaned out my drivers, and installed the ATI 10.1 mobility drivers from this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/498015-g73-gsod-fixes-resources.html

And it installed! Strangely, the 10.8 updater is now telling me it has the latest version for everything, and CCC is telling me it has version 10.8, even though it really shouldn't since I ran driver sweeper and then installed 10.1. I don't really trust CCC, is there a way to check what driver version is actually installed?


edit: nevermind, I managed to google this (I couldn't find it the first few times) and I definitely have 10.1. Now I just need to figure out how to get it to realize it doesn't have the latest drivers so I can update to 10.8.

edit: now the 10.8 installer eventually freezes halfway through loading, what the hell ati

 

CCC Displaying 10.8 as the driver version affects nothing. Its just that one line in 10.1 driver install is missing (ATI forgot to add it somehow) so that entry in registry doesnt get overwritten when you reinstall those. I also had the install freeze once or twice in my 100 installs of every different driver. Just try again (use custom, never had that freeze on me) .

 

I would also suggest installing the drivers solo, then installing the other parts separately.

 

Umm..excuse me... Can I upgrade my catalyst version to 10.8 without updating my vbios? I'm still at 209, stock vbios, and stock ati driver but I'm not having any GSOD.

I guess I have to update bios, vbios, and catalyst even if I am not encountering any GSOD so far?

 

Hi All
I had realy bad Gsod problems in all my games. Crysis, GTA, BC2 and many others. I did research updated my bios to 211, and used the vbios off this forum. I am very thankful as i havent had on crash since then...but im curious where this vbios came from and if asus knew i installed it, would it void my warranty. The reason im concerned is that even tho the crashes have stopped my Gpu runs very hot. I realize this has been an issue on this model and i was considering sending it in. (It runs 90+ when ever im gaming and idles at 60.) Will this vbios void my warranty??

Thankyou

 

Btw. The vbios I installed was the one on the first page that Gary key acquired or developed. I wish I knew where exactly it came from.

 

It came from Asus' R&D Department in conjunction with AMD's Support.

 

Using stock drivers and stock vBIOS will not GSOD. However, you cannot use any of the newer Catalysts from AMD after 10.1. You need to update your vBIOS to use newer video drivers.

 

Thanks, I'll update my G73 on this weekend >_<

BIOS update
vBios update
Driver sweeper > Safe mode > Uninstall ATI drivers
Install mobility ATI 10.8

 

Sounds like a solid plan.

 

Can someone who knows Gary's personal email ask him to delete some of the messages in his forum mailbox? It is full and no longer accepting messages.

or better yet, could a moderator increase his mailbox size?

 

"I am emptying what I can again today, the mailbox only allows 150 messages and I get that in a day on average. "

- Gary Key

 

Hello. Does you guys have problems overclocking with amd gpu tool on 10.8 drivers if you up your voltage from original 1.15v in this new vbios. I still use original vbios but have altered voltage from 1.15v and now yesterday have updated driver from 10.6 to 10.8 and now amd gpu tool giving me error like cant change clock settings on this device.

 

Thanks Chastity, someone must have made some space, I finally got to respond to him.

 

What setting are you trying to change it to?

 

just adjust voltage from 1.15 to 1.20

 

I had the same issue I remember when I tried the AMD GPU tool.. Didn't look into it much since I juse used OD to overclock the card.


Now when you bump your voltage to 1.20.. Does that help a lot with your OC results? Like does it artifact at the lower voltage at OC settings and not artifact when you bump it a bit? I am curious since I would like to play with this a little bit and didn't know if I could actually increase the voltage with the 5870m's.

The only way I know you can do it outside of the GPU tool is to change it in the vBios then flash that vbios to the card. However you had better check your work check stability, and make sure to keep eyes on temps if you want it to run under the increased voltage all the time. (at least while gaming)

 

I never experienced artifacts or bsods and are still using old vbios. Have learned that if I up voltage to 1.20v then I could overclock over 820 and 1300 without crashing to desktop in crysis. But now after I have updated driver to 10.8 amd gpu clock tool refuse to allow me to overclock at all. And ccc overdrive does not work either. If I flash vbios to original then I can overclock again with amd gpu clock tool.

And about temps they are just about 1 to 2 degre celsius higher with volt mod. My max temps are around 92deg at max.

 

great! i want try 1.20v like ati 5770!

 

is there some guide for AMD GPU clock tool? i have no idea on how to create profiles etc...

 

I would not do this. Increasing voltage will increase your temps and our cooling system is not made to handle that kind of OC...
- Even with 1.28v on an Asus Volt modded desktop card, it's recommended you use aftermarket cooling
- And the stock desktop cooling is much much much better than our mobile.
- Simply put, IMO this is simply stupid, idiotic.

And for reference, MSI/Alienware both use 1.05v even on 3D mode. I'll repeat that. Alienware uses 1.05v.

 

Well... trying to change from stock to 10.8 turned out to be a project from hell for me.... I downloaded the full ~70mb file,uninstalled everything,screen went tiny so I had to set the resolution up to even get to the "ok" button
rebooted into safe mode,ran driver sweeper which didn't delete ANYTHING, i clicked analyze,found a bunch of files,clicked clean,and just for the heck of it ran analyze again....STILL THERE?!?!?!
anyway figured perhaps it will do it before it boots into windows.
Was i wrong,tried running the setup file again....not a single sign of any drivers AT ALL!

after several tries I had to roll back my win install to get the machine to "recognize" the GPU.
so I'm now on stock GPU drivers, and CCC wont run...process manager says it's running but nothing appears....*sigh* and here i thought bios/vBios flashing would be hard


and yes I did search the forum for help, didn't find much which surprised me since I had the impression I wasn't the only one with problems on the matter

 

Speak for your self please...

 

Increasing voltages and overclocking will increase the stress on your GPU. I wouldn't plan on having that system working long-term with those settings.

@ziddy123: This is the nice way of saying "this is simply stupid, idiotic."

 

yes i know this and i'm 100% agree with you . I use 1.05v and in idle 100/150 clock with 0.9v. Awesome!
it's just for try, for a better vantage score!

 

Downloaded how? If you downloaded the ~70MB package from here then you didn't download the driver - you only got CCC. You'd need to use the "Full Software Suite" link which downloads its own downloader

 

Ok. But again what is long term for you? One day , year or two or three...
Get my point I believe to people which fidle with that kind of settings know what they do. So please If you dont have something to add and to help, dont come with this kind of answers. Thank you.

 

*facepalm* ehe...yeah I see it now...anyway still doesn't explain how come driver sweeper didn't clean out files, anyway I downloaded and ran the ~1 mb file and screen went from "tiny" to normal 1920x1080...so assume it's done.
quick question though


Am I supposed to have 2 "screens" showing up when I right click on the ATI icon ? both are ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, and "second" screen only as the option of extend desktop available

 

Supposed to or not, I see two there as well.

So if you double-click the ATI icon to open Catalyst Control Center (CCC) and go to the "Information Center" page, are you seeing 10.8 for the Catalyst version now?

 

K, my mind is at ease then ^_^ no removal before though... I just ran the thing

Catalyst™-versjon 10.8
finally! don't notice much of a difference though

cheers on the "quick fix" MarkS

 

GTFO. People who modify those settings ought to be able to make a posting with correct spelling if they want to be taken seriously. I'm not saying you have to be able to spell, I'm saying that you ought to know enough about computers to install a non-IE browser that does spell check automatically, if you think you're ready to OC your hardware.

As for long term, that means anything longer than short term. It doesn't need to be defined, because we all have a grasp of the difference between a long time and a short time. The meaning changes according to the application, as well. Long term for a video game console is different from long term for an investment account. Thus, long term in relation to the g73 is in relation to the perceived ownership period/lifetime of the product. And Longterm for Chastity will mean nothing to you, because your "long term" is different.

So, if you plan on playing at 800/1100 for 3 days or 3 months, it can't be clearly defined as long term unless we know how long you're planning on keeping it.

Rather than complain and whine and criticize, you need to be more precise in your explanations and less inflammatory in your responses.

 

so...use winflash or flash via dos?

 

Oh, I am not saying not to do it, I'm just saying that stressing the card will cause it to inevitably fail at some point. How long depends on the integrity of your GPU chip and memory chips.

Who knows, it may never fail. Since I plan to someday sell off this laptop to get a newer one, I'd like for the next user to get a solid working unit, in lieu of a marginal fps increase and it going wonky one day.

Then again, experience has taught me to appreciate things I pay a lot of money for.

 

Easy now I dont believe to have offended you in any way to get this kind of answer. Did I? And for my wrong spelling, sorry but its not my native language. Dont need browser to help me with that as you and all the others here can still understand what I write. And my spelling can`t in any manner tell you how much experience in overclocking I have. I didnt ask to be told for how long life expectancy is if I raise voltage did I? If you cant answer on my question then please dont comment it at all.
Thank you.

 

Sorry but again that is not answer to my original post, was it. It is my problem if my gpu burn that second I raise voltage. And I can raise my voltages with 10.6 driver and have done this for months now....

I have played games everyday in months now on 820 1300 clocks without any problems with voltage mod. But on 10.8 it revert to original clocks even if vbios is flashed to different clocks and voltage. And again if I just mod clocks then there is no problem at all with overclocking.

 

Thank you for the fix. Updated the bios and vbios, unparked the cores, and it's working great.

 

You entire line of enquiry really belongs in it's own thread. It has nothing to do with the GSOD fix.

Cheers,

 

Nevermind that, tried it on the default clock speeds; FFXIV crashed it within seconds

Everything I did
Installed 10.8 drivers
Noticed GSOD problem
Googled it
Came here
Applied the vBios update with mikeownage's g73 kit using i think ziggy's version that said it had enabled HDMI and overdrive
Noticed I forgot the Bios update
Did that
Computer started just fine
FFXIV was working alright on the settings I set it to before I updated the vbios
I increased the settings and set it to fullscreen, I also unparked the cpu cores
Suddenly horrible fps and keyboard lag and crash

Still works fine on the 1440x900 windowed I had it on before-
Works on fullscreen 1920x1080 with "ambient occlusion" disabled
Why can't you program Square-Enix? Why?

 

If it doesn't work in 10.8, and you've wiped it clean of ATI and reinstalled 10.8, and it still fails, then I suggest you use what worked before, and then wait for 10.10 to try again.

 

Thanks Chasity. But does anyone in here by any chance had tried to raise voltage in high power mode with new vbios. If yes please post if it was succesfull or not. I might just flash this new vbios and test it for myself.

 

Where can I see the current installed version of BIOS and vBIOS?
Does anyone know which versions come pre-installed on G73JH-B1?

Thanks.

 

B1 should have 211 and the original stock vBIOS, unless it's made very recently.