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    How to Fix Your GSOD Blues

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Gary Key, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. renanferrari

    renanferrari Newbie

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    But there isn't a way I can find out it for sure?
     
  2. DCx

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    Easy stuff! Here's how to check the bios, and here's how to check the vbios.

    As for checking on the box, it doesn't really matter - they're both dead simple to update at home.
     
  3. renanferrari

    renanferrari Newbie

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    Thank you SO much! hahaha
     
  4. Krupp

    Krupp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried this fix and while it helped for a little while the GSOD came back anyway. I'm not sure on what to do, I'm playing Final Fantasy XIV on standard settings. Sometimes I'm able to play for quite awhile before it GSODs possibly even hours.

    I'm using Catalyst 10.8, bios 211
    I have a g73jh-B1
    I followed the instructions as shown on the first page.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
     
  5. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    I don't see where you state you are running the new vBios. You have to have that too.

    Cheers,
     
  6. rick29

    rick29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I feel quite stupid =.=
    my bios is already 209
    bought my laptop recently and the stock bios is flashed at 209.

    now 93 vbios does it need to be with 211?? or will 209 work
     
  7. Krupp

    Krupp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I did the fix shown on the first post, is that the latest vBios as well? Isn't that what the 93vbios is? Or am I missing something? Thanks for trying to help me out! :D
     
  8. Hedonist

    Hedonist Notebook Evangelist

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    It is better to update it to 211 because Gary said that the vbios was used and checked on 211.
     
  9. Orthogonality

    Orthogonality Newbie

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    Any idea when the vBios update will be posted on the actual ASUS support page? Just wondering why it isnt posted there yet....
     
  10. mastersquall

    mastersquall Notebook Consultant

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    Chastity told that new vbios will not be put on support page but are being used in asus factory . Even i am too using vbios
     
  11. Hedonist

    Hedonist Notebook Evangelist

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    I updated my bios, vbios and the catalyst.

    Sometimes I'm experiencing some glitch or slowdown when I am using Google Chrome then after few seconds things go back to normal... huhuhu. Never had that experience when at stock vbios and 209.
     
  12. Krupp

    Krupp Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello I posted earlier about a GSOD problem when playing Final Fantasy XIV this is a continuation post to that:

    G73jh-b1
    Already have tried: (These are current settings right now):
    93Vbios fix
    211 Bios Update
    10.8 ATI mobility installed

    I've already tried reinstalling all of these without positive results.
    The GSOD has expanded from the game to occurring during stress and benchmark tests. It would crash during FurMark and ATI Tool tests.
    The running temperature is between 68-73 degrees Celsius. Clock goes 405/1000 to 700/1000 when playing a game. I'm not sure what is causing the problem or how to fix it. Any help would be great! Thanks!
     
  13. jeprira

    jeprira Notebook Consultant

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    Very strange.

    Is it really GSOD (greyish with purple and yellow vertical lines?)
     
  14. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    He may be having an issue with PowerPlay and FF. Go into CCC and disable PowerPlay. This will keep your clocks at 700/1000. See if the issue goes away.
     
  15. Hedonist

    Hedonist Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks, I unchecked the PowerPlay at CCC and my temp increased from 62c to 65c :eek: I'll see if any slowdown might happen again.
     
  16. DCx

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    Yeah, because it's running at full clocks/full speed all the time. But it isn't the high heat that'll kill a laptop, it's fluctuations in heat.
     
  17. Krupp

    Krupp Notebook Enthusiast

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    The screen would be all grey and there would be lines going down it, but I don't recall purple and yellow lines.
     
  18. Xelloss

    Xelloss Notebook Consultant

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    The GSOD would show pretty much any color with vertical lines running down it.
     
  19. ziddy123

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    Hopefully because they are working on an official. This is beta since it only fixed the GSOD, the PowerPlay and OverDrive are still broken.

    PowerPlay, there is flickering whenever memory downclocks and back on A/C mode. So if you have 200/300 on idle and 700/1000 on performance, it will flicker when the memory downclocks from 1000 to 300 and vice versa.

    OverDrive is still broken also. OverDrive is supposed to only come in effect when it detects 3D. But the memory is permanently fixed if you use OverDrive to overclock the memory.
    - How it should work: 200/300 idle. 800/1100 on performance. Instead it's 200/1100...
    - This is how OverDrive works on desktop cards and MSI.
    - The only way to have memory downclock proper with OverDrive is to only overclock the core and leave memory alone. But as said above, that causes flickering.

    So hopefully it means Asus is still working on proper PowerPlay and OverDrive. Asus knows these problems exist. That's why the memory clock is fixed at 1000 on their vBios.

    These issues are huge, as you can still enjoy your notebook. You just don't have the memory downclocking properly as it should with OD enabled or without flickering issues. For a vBios that was released commercially in retail sold to customers, this vBios is still junk, but manageable.
     
  20. wagnard

    wagnard Notebook Consultant

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    These issues are huge?
    I dont think so. GSOD was a huge. this is nothing (for casual user). Its only little annoyance.
    All the thing you mention doesn't break performance or prevent us from gaming.

    I Think the power ply issue may be driver related tho. I had some ATI desktop cards and they do stay stuck at 2d clock sometimes.

    Yesterday my laptop was stuck at 300mhz (battery clock) But I was plug-in all along. A reboot fix it and did not managed to reproduce it back.
     
  21. JoeWhee

    JoeWhee Notebook Consultant

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    Using simple context clues it looks like he meant "These issues are n't huge, ..."
     
  22. wagnard

    wagnard Notebook Consultant

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    Oh maybe sry then. My english isnt superb so my brain overheated :p
     
  23. sam fisher

    sam fisher Notebook Guru

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    sorry for the dumb(pls dont ignore) question but..
    i am confused whether to flash the vbios or not.
    i have my g73 -x3 which runs crash free on furmark..benchmarking
    (crashes though on stability )

    some games run fine..some crash..(may be due to high detail settings?)

    so do i need to flash the vbios?

    pls advice.
     
  24. IM0001

    IM0001 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would recommend flashing since you shouldn't be crashing at all.
     
  25. ziddy123

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    Yep that was supposed to be aren't. All I was saying that in comparison to the vBios released by MSI, Asus's attempt is still not up to par. It's at most satisfactory so people don't have GSOD anymore. But there is more to a vBios and our HD5870M than GSOD.
     
  26. rorage

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    Reading the forums it seems there are mixed opinions about this, especially many claim that it actually downgrades game performance, I think I will pass.
     
  27. Taiguy

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    Haha wow so as I figured out, I was using ziddy's v3 bios when I thought they were updated for the gsod issues. Reflashed with chastity's and seems to be a-ok!
     
  28. IM0001

    IM0001 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ya I had no idea why that old bios thread got bumped today. Just what we need more confusion around here on the GSOD fix lol.
     
  29. The Beast

    The Beast Notebook Geek

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    Maybe the OP should do the "socially responsible" thing of deleting the thread. ;)
     
  30. Hedonist

    Hedonist Notebook Evangelist

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    Flash your vBios, I flashed mine this weekend. updated vBios will enable you to update your catalyst, ATI driver. Oh, you have to update your bios to 211 before flashing your vBios. Good luck!
     
  31. DCx

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    Yeah, but it enables better driver packages, which increase performance as well ... and adds in powerplay, which decreases performance when not configured right.
     
  32. Chastity

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    I've had the same performance with the new vBIOS as with the old, except for the lack of GSODs. If someone has lost some performance, then they have other issues.
     
  33. Hedonist

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    Some users said that they got a lower performance when they updated their catalyst to 10.8 :confused: hmm I still get the same rate while playing SCII and other games with no glitch.
     
  34. sam fisher

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    finally pulled the trigger and updated the vbios.
    amazing results for me.. no crash even in furmark stability..max temp was 108C..

    turned on all the settings to max in Dead Rising 2 ..no crash till now..
     
  35. x7007

    x7007 Notebook Guru

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    I got G730810.hyn from asus support, is it newer ? should i update it ? that's what i posted on the support mail to asus.

    [Problem Description]
    I am using Bios 211 and i saw there is vBios on http://forum.notebookreview.com
    ATOMBIOSBK-ATI VER012.020.000.032.038352
    and
    ATOMBIOSBK-ATI VER012.020.000.032.037764

    Is there any newer to use or what should you recommend the best one to use, please
    if you can send me a fix.

    When gaming on notebook the GPU reach 94c max temperature, using the newest
    10.8 mobility drivers.
    After long time of gaming a GSOD happens - Grey screen of death.
    It's random, there could be slow downs before it.

    Is there any fix to use ?
    I saw there is vBios that can fix this problem in.
     
  36. Shotgunslayerrr

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    Hi guys,
    I am really sorry if m talking off the topic here but here is the thing.. I have the oldest bios and ati catalyst 10.7(tried 10.8 its worse)... When I am playing game like MW(online) after 30 minutes or so my game starts freezing and eventually it will crash or just give me a dark black screen and then m unable to do anything besides forcefully shutting it down..
    I noticed the temperature while playing mw2 the max value was 104C, do u think it is happening because of overheating?
    Will the new vbios and bios 211 help me out with the heating issues?
    And if someone can tel me how to make a backup of vbios and bios or if something goes wrong while upgrading vbios what can be done to solve the problem I will be very thankful..
    Thanks Alot..
     
  37. x7007

    x7007 Notebook Guru

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    If you dont have the new bios this must be the problem, even RoniLite is the main support Asus in israel has told me about this as the answer from asus was get this bios and update it to fix the problems you might or you already have happend.

    BACKUP BIOS:
    atiflash -s 0 backup.ext
    You can use the file as backup.rom - even better

    UPDATE BIOS
    atiflash -p 0 -f BR38352.001
     
  38. DCx

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    Try reading the stickies.
     
  39. Chastity

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    G730810.hyn is a pre-beta vBIOS, and you should not have been given it by Support. Please have that tech shot.

    Use the v93 vBIOS in the sticky thread Fix for your GSOD Blues. My version is located in my sig.
     
  40. rorage

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    I've read that thread as well, and apparently people got some instability issues with it and 3 even claimed that they've got GSODs as well.
    edit: some guy on that forum posted a link here and said that garys version is a newer one and that version is older.
     
  41. IM0001

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    You're going to side with the 3 who had issues vs the > 3 that don't?

    Either way if you do not have issues and can use any drive you want already, then don't bother, nobody is forcing you to upgrade, but if/when you have issues, upgrading is a painless process.
     
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    I know my issues were HARDWARE, and would have occurred no matter what vbios I had.

    So you can make that 2 people who had issues.

    Oh, and Hellcry (I BELIEVE) had issues with the latest vbios. And, IIRC, ALSO hardware error, and problematic no matter what vbios he used.

    So 1 other person that had issues. What was the name of that person? I bet you can't find him/her.
     
  43. DCx

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    Damn. Too much reading, not enough information. What's the latest bios version supposed to be in GPU-Z?
     
  44. BumbleBoner

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    Its 012.020.000.032.038052 on mine. :)
     
  45. rick29

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    under display driver version i got 8.683.0.0..is this what you guys have?

    i ran atiwinflash and used chastity mod
     
  46. IM0001

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    Thats the display driver version. Nothing to do with the vBios. (separate driver build number besides the easy to follow 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 style.)
     
  47. rick29

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    yea just noticed
    where do i check for the vbios verison
    msinfo32? dxdiag?

    nvm found it
     
  48. lord_neno

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    You can see vbios version in GPU-Z or in the BIOS.
     
  49. Zealock

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    I'm lost and about to just RMA the til it works.

    i have bios 206 and i get artifacts on 10.1 cata

    what do I need to do in order to make it work? Main issue is artifacts on 10.1, and grey screen on higher versions

    Update BIOS, update VBIOS (no clue what is that),update GPU drivers

    the end ?

    thanks in advance, sry I did search the forum a bit, but im sick IRL and it gets very tiring reading 100 pages...
     
  50. ziddy123

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    If the instructions are too difficult to understand, because the posts I've seen are as straight forward as you can get, not much more to tell.

    I would do as you said, RMA it. Call Asus or find a ASP locally near you and just ask them, please update my bios to 211 and my vBios to v93.

    Good luck and hopefully your sickness passes by quickly.
     
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