How to Fix Your GSOD Blues

Since you have 211 and 93vBIOS installed, you can stop worrying about flashing.

I would suggest at this point to go into CCC, and under Options, reset the driver to default settings. Give that a try and see if things get stable.

 

LOL.

I'll help out a little again, I got some nice goodies in my sig. Could help for some.

 

Hi everybody and thank you in advance for your attention

I´m having a serious problem with my G73JH. I can´t use any driver from ATI, even the original ATI driver included in the Asus DVD. My laptop can´t boot with them, it hangs during boot, usually after the caps lock light flashes. If I uninstall ATI drivers, everything works. it also works in safe mode...
I´m very worried because it hangs during the booting process even when I try to reinstall windows using the recovery option (F9). I tried everything, even flashing the bios and the vbios with the last firmware (93vBIOS).

Please, help me!!!

JCE

 

1) Uninstall ATI drivers.
2) Safe Mode
3) http://pcaudio.org/stuff/ATI Crap Cleaner.bat < Run this
4) Reboot
5) http://pcaudio.org/stuff/10.10d Mobility_Win7.exe < install this

 

Thank you for your help!
I have tried this solution, but unfortunately my G73JH continues with the same problem... it completely freezes during the boot process... any idea?

 

Simple question: did you ever update your audio drivers?

 

Please, which drivers do you suggest? The drivers from the Asus site?

Could it be a hardware problem (GPU)?

 

I'll take that as a "No"

The stock audio drivers were known to be troublesome with some software, and can cause crashes and lockups.

ftp://WebUser:[email protected]/pc/audio/Vista_Win7_R253_x64.exe

Install these and see if your problem goes away.

 

Try tapping F8 at startup and then select “Enable low-resolution video (640x480)”

I know this problem. Happens to me when I run Driver Cleaner Pro. Only solution is to do the above and then install the ATI drivers. It will be a bit of a pain because your screen will be at that low resolution but just keep pressing the enter key during the driver installation and you should be fine.

Hope this will help you out

iemie

 

vBIOS work as described, no GSODs.

However, days after flashing to Gary's vbios, I'm experiencing extreme lags in general performance and periodic BSODs. Was this a reported repercussion of the flash?

Is anyone else experiencing this?

For the record, I turned powerplay off in CCC, and no Overdrive as it is not supported. I'm currently experimenting with startup items in msconfig to see if anything else might be causing the problem.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

 

I have tried your audio driver and still hangs up during boot...
I have tried low resolution and it did not work...

 

After i used atiwinflash from windows leptop doesnt open. There is only black screen. Can anyone help me pleaseee?

 

Only thing left I can suggest is to save your personal files and game saves, and restore the system to factory setup using Asus Recovery, or do a fresh install of Win7. Sounds like something got seriously fubar, and I would suggest doing a fresh OS install.

 

Hmm, looks like your Windows is thoroughly up then. I think it is time to re-install Billy Gates work of art JCE.

 

I did a fresh install of win7 and I installed the ATI driver BEFORE the other drivers... I also tried restoring the system with Asus Recovery and when it hangs during the installation process.

 

You beat me to it as usual Chas (“,)

 

Any advice would be most appreciated

 

I would suggest checking for latency spikes, and maybe upgrading your WiFi and NIC drivers.

 

Ok, my laptop is still dating the hot secretary, i find some thermal paste and did a repaste everything is working ok, now i have nice temps



But now when i turn off or put the laptop in hibernation, the lights don´t turn off, and if they are off they turn on, the three ones on the left, the caps lock, num lock and the front light AC, HDD and WLAN, did this happen to anyone?

 

lights are acting strange after a re-paste? maybe u made a blunder and shortened the wires or something.....

 

But everything is working ok, no errors on the event viewer, no lag or malfunction during normal operation, no missing or damage components on the device manager, no errors on the bios, nothing, i can turn the lights on and off when the pc is on, also when the battery is charging the red light appear, and then when is done she change to green, just the weird behavior of the lights, when i turn the pc off.

 

@ Chastity

Wich Catalyst drivers version are the best to use with your vbios versions? I use catalyst 10.6 and sc2 froze on me once in a week. It wasnt a vsod, the screen just froze and that annoying buzz came out from the speakers. I also experiment some distortion in my mouse pointer. Sometimes, the pointer will be split in 2, sometimes i see a black square near the actual pointer. Should I update to 10.10? or is 10.7a better?

 

Stick with the latests unless it breaks some game you play. I'm on 10.10D atm.

 

I posted on this thread about a month ago about a few GSOD flickers that I got while playing BFBC2 after bios, vbios, 10.8. I believe some people stated that they had these symptoms, and they led to full blown GSODs again. Well, after all this time I haven't had any more flickers, nor GSODs, with a bunch of different games. I'm confident that this solved my problem. I don't follow these boards but I thought my experience might be helpful.

 

yes and they will increase by at least 1/(10^45) per second.

 

hummm, cant find the thread chasity posted in about this 2.0 stuff for the pcie...so ill post it here.

seems she was seriously right about that. check ut the diiference between a 5850 in an aw and the 5870 in the g73

he is at 2.0 while as she said..we are at 1.1

and look at his link speed compared to ours. (2.5) awh man that stinks!

 

You do know that it's a limitation of the chipset? the chipset supports PCI-e but it's bandwidth is still close to that of a Desktop 1.1, and last time I checked Intel's site they didn't have any mobile chipsets that support more than ~ 2.5 GB/s
here: Mobile Intel QM57 Express Chipset - Overview
compared to Intel X58 Express chipset - Overview (Desktop)

 

just finding this out..yet the m15x uses a pm55 and has no problems with this.

 

what problems are you talking about? both chipsets support the same PCIe bandwidth

 

sorry, im not having any problems.
it was just something i noticed.

 

I didn't actually understand, did you claim that m15x has a greater bandwidth then Asus g73?
cause your screenshots compare two different videocards and they show the 5850 is slower then the 5870?

 

i think you might want to look again.... the 5850 is faster than the 5870.
those pictures show his 5850 running at 5.gb
an alienware m17x r2 (5870 and not crossfire. i think 5870 crossfire is faster) is also using pcie 2.0 and is still behind the 5850.
and our g73 is way farther back at a top gpu score of 9400. top 5850 score..10.5k. top 5870 score..10.0 i think.

 

but his GPU -> CPU speeds are in the toilet. The 5870M speeds are syncronous (3.0GB/s) whereas the 5850M are async (4.77GB / 385MB)

 

may be in the toilet...but it sure isn't in the toilet when it comes to gpu performance. dont see many 5870's breaking 10k like these 5850's

 

since when does the GPU frequency actually mean better performance?

 

since i like to see you get performance off of 500/1000 gpu frequency.

i know you like the technical aspect/what on paper says of it all..but...actual runs speak for them selves.
dont take this the wrong way...but
question, can your "performance" beat that 5850 "performance" vantage run?
which im about 100 percent sure you can't. but am gamed to be be wrong.

side note:
here is a desktop hd 5870 doing the exact same thing.
10.8

/PCIeBandwidth
Host to device : 1.4857 GB/s
Device to host : 1.55345 GB/s


i72CIeSpeedTest_v0.2 # ./PCIeSpeedTest
Devices found: 2

===> Testing device 0 <===
Device type: Unknown
Max resource 2D width/height: 16384/16384
Total GPU memory size: 2048 MB
Total CPU cached space size: 508 MB
Total CPU uncached space size: 1788 MB
GPU engine clock: 0 MHz
GPU memory clock: 0 MHz
Number of timing loops: 100
[ 16 bytes] CPU->GPU= 320.000 KB/sec, GPU->CPU= 200.000 KB/sec
[ 32 bytes] CPU->GPU= 1.067 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 800.000 KB/sec
[ 64 bytes] CPU->GPU= 2.133 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 2.133 MB/sec
[ 128 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.267 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 1.829 MB/sec
[ 256 bytes] CPU->GPU= 8.533 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 6.400 MB/sec
[ 512 bytes] CPU->GPU= 17.067 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 17.067 MB/sec
[ 1024 bytes] CPU->GPU= 34.133 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 34.133 MB/sec
[ 2048 bytes] CPU->GPU= 68.267 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 68.267 MB/sec
[ 4096 bytes] CPU->GPU= 102.400 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 136.533 MB/sec
[ 8192 bytes] CPU->GPU= 273.067 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 273.067 MB/sec
[ 16384 bytes] CPU->GPU= 546.133 MB/sec, GPU->CPU= 546.133 MB/sec
[ 32768 bytes] CPU->GPU= 1.092 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 819.200 MB/sec
[ 65536 bytes] CPU->GPU= 2.185 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 819.200 MB/sec
[ 131072 bytes] CPU->GPU= 3.277 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 504.123 MB/sec
[ 262144 bytes] CPU->GPU= 3.277 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 468.114 MB/sec
[ 524288 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.033 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 472.332 MB/sec
[ 1048576 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.194 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 461.928 MB/sec
[ 2097152 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.280 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 448.109 MB/sec
[ 4194304 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.280 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 443.842 MB/sec
[ 8388608 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.215 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 440.578 MB/sec
[ 16777216 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.258 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 441.041 MB/sec
[ 33554432 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.067 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 442.671 MB/sec
[ 67108864 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.087 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 446.084 MB/sec
[ 134217728 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.145 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 450.849 MB/sec
[ 268435456 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.148 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 458.966 MB/sec
[ 536870912 bytes] CPU->GPU= 4.218 GB/sec, GPU->CPU= 472.419 MB/sec

and halt on it

so for all you technical junkies...any ideas?

 

I'll just leave this here
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 - Notebookcheck.net Tech
edit: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Update-Asus-G73JH-i7-720QM-FHD-TFT-Notebook.31186.0.html
even on this particular model(G73jh) games still run better (more FPS) on 5870m than on 5850m
edit: according to this http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/pics/gpu1_78.gif that GPU is overclocked, or it deviates from the standard specs.

 

I have just updated by bios to 211, video bios to chastity's version and drivers to 10.10D. I don't think this fixed the issue at all.

While the video card driver crashes less in certain games such as starcraft 2, heroes of newerth (used to crash every couple of minutes and now maybe once a game) and counter strike: source, it crashes within 5 minutes of playing Badlands with cranked settings.

I would love to hear from someone else with badlands who can crank the video settings and not have it crash.

 

sorry. we dont hold notebookcheck to the higher standards as those who are running through this forum testing these cards and finding out what they "really are all about"
looks good though, but that's about it.

 

I checked M15x sub-forum and still 5850m doesn't seem to be more powerful than 5870m
Also are you claiming that notebookceck fabricated their data? and they are not reliable at all?

 

no sir. they dont fabricate the data. but should have been around long enough to know what im talking about. should be no need to further explain.

as far as benching is concerned..the 5850 is making a strong stance. i bench mark. and that pretty much is all im talking about.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/alienware-m15x/56723d1286387963-official-m15x-benchmark-thread-06-best.th.jpg
now that's two plain examples of the 5850 prevailing..not to mention how well it over clocks

oh yeah, this is from the alienware forums.
sorry, but notebookcheck isn't even on the same playing field against that.

oh wait...here is another one.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/alienware-m15x/56652d1286222682-official-m15x-benchmark-thread-bestttt-van-5850gpu.jpg

but hey, can you help me out with shrinking these?

 

Hello JohnKSSS,

You seem to have a great many posts and are a true participant in the forums. So, by no means, do I mean any disrespect. However, I am still a little unclear as to what your point is. You do seem to prove that the 5850m has some better capabilities - Is that really all you're trying to point out? That you've got a better notebook with a better more configurable GPU?

It really seems to be a bit off topic for this specific thread.

Again I mean no disrespect - IMHO benchmarks miss out on one un-measurable mark. That being user perception. No matter how good or bad a benchmark number is, the user of that particular device/component/computer is the ultimate mark. If the user is satisfied with the performance then no matter what numbers others show them are meaningless.

Again just my humble opinion.

Sorry if I missed your original point. Just trying to make sure this isn't all about who has a better what and therefore a simple matter of opinionated argument.

In Peace and Agape,
Trav...

 

no worries.
my original post was just to say chasity was right in going down the 2.0 pcie vs the non pcie version.
i used the 5850 thinking..hey, my 5870 was better, but turns out..it really isn't all that much better.
they trade blows of course, but people are stuck in the past vs the present. and in the present.the 5850 is beating a 5870.

our benchmarks are not just running the benchmark..but in fact..playing out scenes from these games to compare.
running fraps to test in game play as well.
my argument wasn't even about the 5850 to be honest. it was about the machines using 2.0 vs those that arent using 2.0. and 2.0 is making a nice little difference in over all everything.

your right.."far off topic!"
it was suppose to be a simple thing.
but when people jump on the example as if it's a topic....things sort of...get lost...as usual.

 

ok apparently M15X uses the PM55 chipset while Asus uses the HM55 express
PM55 is a high performance chipset, HM55 is a mainstream one, and PM55 should support up 25% more bandwidth(accross the whole buss, including SATA, etc) then HM55, still this is not 5870 related.
Also I checked the 5850m specifications( http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5800/Pages/hd-5850-specs.aspx) and the one in your screen-shot are deviated/overclocked, so are you trying to claim that an overclocked/steroid 5850 is faster than a 5870m?
Also according to AMD's specifications, a 5850m is very close to a 5870 (5850 can have slightly lower clocks and can use gddr3 memory) still the clocks from your screenshots are not "natural"

 

it's cool. you dont understand. and im tired of trying to explain.
plus it's off topic.

 

Are you telling me 965 1135 is not overclocked?
Also it's not abt pci-e 2.0 vs 1.1 when the bandwidth is maxed at 2.5 .

 

just wondering if our G73JH is using PCIE 2.0 or 1.0?

 

ok i have downloaded the new vbios. made a bottable usb. im js confused. chastity has provided 2 bat files. so i am assuming the od one is better. now in the instructions i have read after pressing esc etc i have to type VFlash. but tht file isnt on the flash drive. so intead do i type updateod. and also do both the VFLash file and the updateod have to be in the flash driver?

thanks

 

hard to say..i average about 3.0 to 3.4 gb, but the outcome seems that we are limited by chipset...or when the chipset wants to let you go higher. (is what ill use)

one has over clocking enabled for ccc
and the original one doesnt.
vflash is gary
updateod is chasity.

 

UPDATE FOR OVERDRIVE USERS:

(I get asked this alot, thus the reason for this post)

When you use any Overdrive-enabled vBIOS, the Overdrive tab in CCC will be locked, and greyed-out by default. You will also see an icon button on top with a key symbol. Press the key, and it will unlock the tab screen.