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    How to Fix Your GSOD Blues

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Gary Key, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. coldreign2k10

    coldreign2k10 Newbie

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    Is 211 an official or unofficial update? Would it void the warranty if it bricks?
     
  2. lord_neno

    lord_neno Notebook Evangelist

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    BIOS 211 is an official update (you can download it in the official asus suport website...) ANd it doesn´t void the warranty
     
  3. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    all threads/links I mentioned in the video are in my signature.

    Here is the video tutorial I promised you guys. I did a crappy job but it should be fine. If you guys are still not certain about the instructions I mentioned in the video, let me know if I should make another tutorial while in the bios. I'll have to record the screen with my crappy mp3/camera.

    YouTube - G73JH GSOD FIX

    edit - I made one mistake in the video but I corrected myself later. Make sure you have a pencil ready to write down short instructions unless you have a phone or another monitor to view the instructions while you are in the bios.

    edit - and here is my crappy camera at work. Nice huh....

    [​IMG]

    If you guys find this good enough, maybe the mods can post this on first page?
     
  4. ShaggyRS6

    ShaggyRS6 Notebook Consultant

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    +Rep Nice Job
     
  5. aramis109

    aramis109 Notebook Deity

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    Ended up running Chastity's set, as I like the speeds for non-gaming since I have to use this in an office environment occasionally. Stability seems ok, but I didn't GSOD in the past anyway. I'll test it for more.
     
  6. forexviii

    forexviii Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, so I updated the vBios, and now my clocks start at 405/1000 on boot. I reinstalled P4G, made sure it was on High Performance, made sure PowerPlay was at High Performance while plugged in... no luck. Any idea on what is going on? I can overclock it manually, but I'm worried that this might mean something is wrong and I'll still get GSODs.
     
  7. jaolhe2

    jaolhe2 Notebook Guru

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    I'm not sure if that is a bug in Ati CCC or some strange powerplay feature. I see 405/1000 in overdrive panel as well, however the benchmark results are normal so it's definitely not running at 405 core clock.
     
  8. loskings

    loskings Notebook Geek

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    The clock is running 405 when not using any 3d applications. Launch a game or a benchmark and it will crank up to 700/1000 (or higher if you are using overdrive). In my oppinion normal behavior.
     
  9. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    thats normal. You have on powerplay in catalyst. when you play a game or video, it will go back up to 700/1000. turning off powerplay then I think you need to restart then uncheck power play again will get you 700/1000 again.
     
  10. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Power Play is your friend! We've been begging for this change since the beginning. There is no reason for your GPU to be running at full clocks when you are browsing the web or sitting idle. Power Play allows the GPU clocks to change to fit the needs of the applications. In the new VBios this is what you should see:

    -405/1000 idle clocks
    -500/1000 watching videos (Youtube, VLC, Media Player)
    -700/1000 Gaming or other 3D applications
     
  11. diegovar

    diegovar Notebook Guru

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    Just wanted to let everyone know I'm now the happy owner of a fully functioning G73JH :D I upgraded every part of this laptop (Bios, vBios and Display Drivers) yesterday and it's working beautifully (no GSODs nor freezes). Thanks a lot to all the community that, through their continued efforts of debugging and calling the attention of Asus on this matter allowed for the resolution of this obnoxious GSOD problem.

    At long last I can say I'm a happy Asus customer. :)
     
  12. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    My question now is when this vBios goes official at asus website. It's my understanding so far is just a beta vBios.
     
  13. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    It should be official. the vbios beta was already leaked out weeks ago.
     
  14. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    so, what about overdrive feature. Gary said it will be implemented in the future.
     
  15. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    OK, I'm decided to try the new vBios on my system.... formating now my pendrive.

    Cross finger for me guys...
     
  16. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    Well, for one, I'm wary about voiding my warranty, and I don't physically "have" my g73 at the moment. It's back, being repaired AGAIN.
     
  17. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    in that case, and if asus is on top of things, they will send it back to you fully upgraded to bios 211 and with the new vbios.

    To make sure, I would contact them and tell them to do this for you. IT DOES NOT VOID YOUR WARRANTY!!
     
  18. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    OK, updated to 211, updated to vBios v93 (gary's version) and updated to Catalyst 10.8.

    Everything worked smooth, the DOS upgrade was incredible easy following Gary's intructions (was awesome see to booth my g73 in win95!!!! ). First, i did BIOS upgrade, reboot. Next I made the vBIOS update, reboot. Finally I uninstall 10.1, reboot in safe mode and use driver sweeper to remove all leftover. Next reboot, I installed the catalyst 10.8 and after my last reboot, my system is completed upgraded.

    My temp do not increase significally from BIOS 209. And i can conform, the 211 version IS NOT LOUDER THAN 209. The system is still silent and runs cooler. My temps:

    Idle in windows: 54-57C at 405/1000 (powerplay activated)
    Idle in windows: 62C without powerplay at 700/1000
    15 min Starcraft2: 78C in skirmish

    BTW, I never repaste my laptop :)

    SC2 runs smoother than 10.1, no flickering at all, no gsod. It's like my g73 is reborn!!!! In addition, no flickering when i open some youtube video, since previously every time i opened a video, it's like the driver activated the 2d video layer and the screen flicker.

    I decided go for Gary's version since I don't care to mess up the setting that came from factory, because the hardware was not designed as a desktop VGA.

    Now testing more games.
     
  19. rangerdeputy

    rangerdeputy Newbie

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    Well I went back to best buy and re purchased this laptop. I have the thermal paste which I havent' done yet. But I have the new vBios with a fresh install of windows 7 64 Ultimate. New 10.8 Drivers and I've been gaming with NO GSODs.

    So thank you very much to everyone who assisted.

    Only issue I have is the keyboard missing keys.... But it's minor. =D

    Again, Thank you!
     
  20. Gary Key

    Gary Key Company Representative

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    The hooks are in this vBIOS but until we made sure it would solve the GSOD problem before implementing it fully. The modded vBIOS Chasity put up has Overdrive turned on along with a couple of changes to the power play clock speeds. You can manually set your clock speeds to equal the modded BIOS with the AMD GPU Clock tool to see if those clock speeds are stable on your setup. If so, you can try the modded vBIOS and always flash back to the current one. However, there will not be any "official" support for the modded BIOS, just user support here. ;)
     
  21. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    what exactly is the overdrive feature? Is it just some other way to oc your mem speed?
     
  22. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey Gary good to hear from you. Thanks for the support and the vBios, my system works fantastic. I just wondering about my weird touchpad behavior. It will be a fix for this. Sometimes it's like it is control by itself, I pressed in the center in the touchpad but the muse fly all the way to the sides of the screen, among others weird situations.
     
  23. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    Same thing happens for me. I had issues with both stock drivers from asus and synaptics latest version.
     
  24. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    Overdrive is just overclocking from the catalyst driver. When enable, a new tab will appear at ccc in which you can set how much auto-overclocking is allow for your vga. From my old ati system, you just can set as enable or not, and the OC level will base in both stress needed ant temps of your VGA. In easy words:

    Powerplay: to auto downclock your vga
    Overdrive: to auto overclock your vga

    AMD GPU Clock Utility: to manually set the VGA clocks
     
  25. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    o wow, thats a nice feature. thx for that.
     
  26. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    I just flashed to 211 bios... having trouble getting this to work... currently formatting the usb drive (trying a non quick format) hopefully it will show up this tme in the boot device...
     
  27. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    I seem to have a problem with making a working usb boot drive...

    to make sure... when you start the HPUSBDisk program you do check the create a DOS startup disk using the files located at: and you point that to the win98boot file right?
     
  28. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    wait, your having trouble with the bios 211 or the vbios? You don't need a bootable usb to update your bios to 211. Only for the vbios.
     
  29. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    no I already updated to the 211 bios, I am having trouble with the vbios... I cant seem to get usb stick to boot properly...

    when I set it to boot from the USB 2.0 from the Bios it starts to load into windows and it loads into a weird windows with a messed up resolution and nothing but the mouse pointer, then it restarts...
     
  30. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    I just watched your video Xellon and it seems like I did everything right... still not working, maybe its a bad usb drive or something... cant figure it out
     
  31. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    its not suppose to load into windows. Are you booting it from the save/exit tab in the bios?
     
  32. shinytrucs

    shinytrucs Notebook Enthusiast

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    My touchpad is dodgy too. It can work perfectly and precisely for hours, then all of a sudden go really laggy, jump around the screen, and just not respond to movements in certain directions. This dodgy stage can last for hours. I'm using the latest synaptics drivers off their website, and I've disabled all of the special features, leaving on only basic movement and clicking. I also clean it regularly.

    Could it be that heavy use heats up the touchpad and leaves it seeing ghosts of fingers? :eek:

    By the way, I've adjusted every single setting to get the best possible responsiveness from it, so I'm sure it isn't related to settings.
     
  33. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    nope im changing the boot order to have the USB2.0 first
     
  34. remix5x

    remix5x Notebook Guru

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    okay I tried it through the save/exit bios tab and I think it worked! thanks Xellon
     
  35. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    Well, thats what I did. I had the three files files in my thumb drive, and flashed from the save/exit tab. Before that, I used the hp tool in the first post to make my thumb drive bootable.

    I did do a full format first before everything else.

    edit - No problem xD
     
  36. DCx

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    Perhaps. I know it is currently waiting to be picked up, because the asus360 doesn't apparently cover 2 way shipping (as stated on the box). And I didn't want to pay $90 for shipping.
     
  37. mersenne

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    What? 360 doesn't cover 2 way shipping? It says like everywhere, including the terms and conditions that they do.
     
  38. Chastity

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    FYI: When the official vBIOS is released with working OverDrive, I am going to recommend anyone who is using mine to upgrade to the official release. If you want to modify the clocks, you can either use presets or use RBE to modify. I would heavily suggest that you test your clock settings before hardcoding them into the vBIOS.

    Other than that, I just came back from my trip upstate, and just spent 2 hrs catching up on the forums. Also did my i7 950 upgrade on my desktop with the Thermalright Venomous X-RT + ICD7 and getting 37/35/39/34C for the 4 cores at stock speeds and full C states active for idle. :)
     
  39. MarsArmy

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    Hello chassity i had a question for you ( and anyone else who may know ) im currently using a fully upgraded Gh73 and i just got the FF 14 Beta yesterday and it runs pretty well on 720 P Resolution with some features on some off, anyways id like to get a bit more performance out of my GPU and i have tried different OC's such as 750/1075 and 800/1100 and a few others but i keep getting a blue screen of death on anything other then stock clocks.

    before i upgraded my Asus i was using bios 209, Stock V bios, and 10.6 drivers and i did not have many GSOD issue and none at all when i OCed to 800/111
     
  40. MarsArmy

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    from default clocks i was stable @ 800/1100. and now using the AMD clock tool i cant OC at all >< anyone tried to OC now ? seems that i can not anymore so im wondering if your OverDrive version of the Vbios could pontentially work out better then then the AMD clock tool ? ( im using Gary version atm )


    did to mean to post that first reply yet >< lol im a forum noob tbh as you can tell
     
  41. MarsArmy

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    OCed to 800/1100 *
     
  42. apachehavok

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    Can we confirm that this new vbios has HDMI working?
     
  43. zantrax

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    OMG I didnt know anyone else had this problem, I thought my g73 was broken or something, but since everything else works so good for me, I thought it was just not worth getting it sent to get fixed or anything like that... (who knows I might get it back with something not working :p)

    Just as a note I have synaptics driver uninstalled because my keyboard missed too many strokes with it, so I guess the "funny" pointer movement isnt synaptics related. Im guessing it might be something with heat, but I dunno really. When it goes crazy it drives me insane.

    Anyways best description of my issue (maybe its not the same as you guys), is that after a while (not that long nowdays...), the touchpad refuses to "pass" or go after certain point, and parts of the touchpad send the pointer to the right. Damn its hard to explain haha. My current "fix" for this, which sucks, is moving the laptop... when the trackpad goes funky, i change position of the laptop, or even "shake" or "tilt" it a bit, and the trackpad works ok again for a while.
     
  44. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    Works for me.
     
  45. shinytrucs

    shinytrucs Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yep, this is the same issue. I've tried using it without any touchpad driver installed and it's worse. I'll try out your fix next time it plays up, thanks!
     
  46. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Gary can you give any new info on the Synaptics driver that was promised? Got a release ready for us yet?
     
  47. Jody

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    I get something similar. Occasionally I can't move the cursor past a certain point. Usually I'm trying to move it from the left side of the screen to the right and it get's stuck about half way across and wiggles instead of moving. I start moving my finger all over it trying to get it to move and it finally does. Sometimes it looks like it's trying to move in a small figure eight or something. Is that what you are talking about?
     
  48. zantrax

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    Hahaha, yeah exactly! Its creepy how accurate your description of the probem is, just that in my case its from right to left.

    Other thing I have noticed is that when the touchpad is on this "trance", it sometimes "teleports" the pointer with the slightest touch, towards the right edge. I mean, i barely touch the pad and the pointer appears waaaaaaaay to the right.
     
  49. Jody

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    Mine does the same thing! I go to move it and poof! It's gone. I start moving my finger around and it appears out of the bottom right corner usually. Mine doesn't do these things constantly, just occasionally.
     
  50. Nekki

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    In addition to touchpad crazy behavior, now I'm experimenting keyboard lagging in battery mode. Nothing to go on rage against asus, but about .1-.3 secs of delay in the keyboard while I'm typing. Also I'm not missing keystrokes, just lagging.

    Never has neither keyboard nor touchpad issues in BIOS 206 (installed from factory when i bought my g73). Gary, keep on eye on this issue please.

    Almost forgot, no GSOD whatsoever. :)
     
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