Pascal ROG Strix GL502/GL702 Thread

So today there was a power outage here and when the power came back on I noticed (after about an hour) that the battery was not charging. I unplugged the adapter and re-plugged it. Still nothing. Did it once more - worked. I tested about 10 times - rapidly unplugging and re-plugging and every 2-3 times it would not start charging. I do use a surge protector and a separate extender so my question is as follows - is this some sort of internal surge protection by Asus or should I RMA the adapter or expect a failure? Basically, does it behave in a similar fashion for you guys?

 

I had one power outage so far and after the power came back everything was fine just like before. I think you should RMA the adapter.

 

I've also had it automatically pick up after a power outage - the thing is, this one lasted only about 1 minute so I'm trying to figure out if it's tripping a protection of sorts.

 

Hi guys - picking up a basic Asus GL502V with 6700HQ, 8GB, 1TB and 1060. Will upgrade it to 16GB (imagine it's quite simple / will do ssd later) - though is there anything I need to be aware of on this laptop? Reading the reviews - just keen to ensure the temp is well managed (e.g. it seems that it will get hotter than the 970m model) - I imagine that repasting it with Gelid GC3 will void the warranty? Would turning off the turboboost help?

Thanks,

 

Undervolting helps a lot - Skylake and Kaby Lake undervolt very well. Turning off Turbo shouldn't be needed and you can also manually control the fans via the RoG centre for a small added benefit.

 

You can only control fan speed from the rog center on the newer, kaby lake model. Disabling turbo means ~5C temp reducement. 16 gigs of ram is pretty much useless, unless you are a content creator. An SSD would make much more difference.

Repasting should void warranty, but I am not sure.

 

I disagree - 8GB of RAM is VERY limiting. Even now I am using about 10GB having a game open and browsing the forum as well as talking over skype and having a few more background tasks open.

 

I can tell you, that mine has 8 gigs and I never experienced any disadvantage where i would say that I need the plus 8 gigs even though my usage is very similar to yours. Windows tries to utilize as much as it can, but you dont really notice the difference on 8 gigs

You cant disagree with the fact that an SSD makes much more difference than 16 gigs of ram.

 

It does - but if the choice is 128GB SSD + 16GB RAM or 256GB SSD + 8GB RAM - I'd take the extra RAM.

 

In the case mentioned by you, I would take the extra RAM, too, if the laptop already has an SSD.

But I was talking about:
- no SSD + 16gigs of ram
Or
- SSD + 8gigs of ram

 

Just saving towards 960 Pro - so I'm okay with 1TB for a bit - but yes hope to get upgraded not too far from now. Is there an equivalent of V300 bios for GL502 1060 that helps the temp?

 

Have you tried undervolting? I've found that running Bios 203 reduces noise quite drastically.

 

Anybody else have really bad fan noise? I'm not talking volume but clicking/whirring and noises that sound like the fan is defective. I've narrowed it down to the larger one (noise goes away when its unplugged). It's marked dfs551205ml0t but googling that gives a ton of hits none of which have the same exact config or shape.

Yes, I can RMA but what a PITA for a $5 part that takes 2min to swap.

 

if you're going to take apart the fan anyway, why not try to clean it out and put a little lube ?

actually, maybe the bearings are bad, or wait, i think these are brushless fans without bearings.

 

I've cleaned it out monthly since I bought the laptop in January. I think its noisy but I also think my secondary HDD is noisy, too. Neither started out that way. First spindle drive I've had in many years. I'll try disconnecting that next time I've got it open (have another 16gb DDR4 coming next week).

 

Why clean monthly? I had this laptop for half a year and I opened it last month. To my biggest surprise there weren't any dust in it. The dust filters are working excellently. I think it's enough if you clean the laptop every year..

 

Depending on the laptop, the SSD is a lot easier to replace than the memory.

If the memory is on the back of the motherboard, under the keyboard, I'd get those slots filled with the highest density RAM when first ordering, then add SSD later.

And, then your RAM slots on the underside are free for additional expansion, should you discover the joys of Virtual Machines => VM's, or something like Qube OS.

It's all about the long term planning when ordering. 2x16GB is a good size for RAM

 

Fortunately on this laptop both the memory slots and the m2 slot / hdd bay is accessible if you get off the bottom cover

 

That's great, up from the single RAM slot from earlier editions then?

It's a tough call, but I'd still go for the RAM first, SSD second.

There are lots of sales on SSD's, lots of chances to save $ and/or get more storage.

If you need to replace all the RAM to upgrade, you're left with the old SODIMM's to sell or leave sit in the box. Best to start witih 1x16 or 2x16 so you don't need to waste memory SODIMM's down the road.

 

It actually looks like this:

 

Just a note - that's the GL502VS/VY layout. The GL502VM/VT have a single memory slot with 8GB DDR4 2133 soldered to the board.

 

Im tossing up between the MSI GS43VR-069 and the ASUS GL502VS-DS71 because after shipping and tax to Thailand they are about the same price plus I'm adding 960 Evo drive.

I need to run 2x 4k@60hz monitors and the only info I have found is Lisa from mobiletechreview saying about the previous GL502VS-DB71 "Yes it does, I've used it with my LG 4K monitor @60Hz. HDMI 2.0 is fairly common in laptops with NVIDIA GTX 10 series graphics cards."

My question is can anyone confirm you can run 4k@60hz via HDMI port on GL502VS-DS71?

 

I believe you can do it via display port - the HDMI needs to be 2.0 for it to work,

 

Yes the first 4k monitor is displayport and on the MSI GS43 I can use an adapter with TB3 to displayport x2 and run 3, but far less powerful graphics card. That's why I am asking owners if they can confirm it still works on DS71 since it worked with DB71 (confirmed by mobiletechreview). IDK maybe the 120hz screen messes with it or they disabled it or something. I can even disable the 120hz display if that works I just want 2x 4k monitors running at 60hz. Not 1 at 30hz because it looks lame and really noticeable side-by-side

 

The 1070 model does run quite hot, though. You will have to undervolt the CPU and GPU via Intel XTU and MSI Afterburner so as to lower thermals a bit. Hope you know that

 

Undervolt, one of those 4 fan cooling pads and if needed a repaste. The MSI gets hot too but with 90% of the time spent in chrome quality of screens > quality of gameplay. Been stuck with a surface book's 940m for the past year and you know low@720p is underrated

 

The GS43 runs a bit cooler but that's normal considering the 1060 is 90W whereas the 1070 is 115W

 

Subscribing
(Got a GL502 since a few weeks)

 

Thanks for the warm welcome. I figured I might as well share my first week's of experience with my laptop

In more detail I have the GL502VS-DS71 Titanium, with 16GB RAM, Metal Thermal interface on CPU, IC Diamand on GPU (by Hidevolution) and a samsung 960 pro to make sure the HDD is quick enough

My observations so far:

• I don't think the repaste on CPU and GPU make much of a difference, my unit get's just as hot as many of the others in the forum (CPU > 90 degrees while playing Ghost Recon Wildlands (GRW)on Ultra setting)
• With GRW on medium settings the CPU gets just as hot (and the GPU is still 98% in use all the time)
• Total War Warhammer also heats up my unit pretty well. I find this strange as I always auto resolve battles and the "strategic map" doesn't look like it needs constant GPU attention
• Playing Shadows of Mordor on ultra settings (hey that game was only 4 euro this weekend) isn't heating up the unit. CPU and GPU remain under 80 degrees. GPU usage is around 75 - 80%
• Undervolting GPU (1804 mhz @ 0,875v with Afterburner) and CPU (-0,110 with XTU) don't make much of a difference with GRW
• Setting the FAN speed to 100% in ROG gaming center did the trick for me. Temperatures dropped to around 80 degrees (both CPU and GPU) while playing GRW
  Note: I still undervolt just to be sure)

Just two questions if I may based on my own observations

1. I can't seem to set a custom FAN curve in MSI afterburner, while I can set the FAN to max in ROG gaming center. Does anybody know if it's possible to adjust FAN settings in MSI afterburner for these laptops?
2. Since the laptop doesn't heat up in games that use the GPU for 80%. Is it possible / useful to not undervolt the GPU, but throttle it at 80% usage?
   I'd really like to test that with GRW to see if it works. If not that's fine too, I'll just spin those FAN's really fast

Regards,
Salvolin

 

MSI AB doesn't have firmware access so it can't control fans. Only the RoG centre has fan control.

Total War games are always most demanding on the tactical map. While fighting battles, my max temps are around 70*C vs 85*C on the tactical map. It's odd, I know. It's been like that for a long time

As for GRW - no idea there. But underclocking the GPU isn't needed imo. As long as temps remain under 94*C for the CPU and 88*C for the GPU - you are not likely to have issues. Anything above those, however, is reason for concern.

 

Checkout notebook fan control. It works with the gl702vm and i can set custom fan curves. I have no idea if it works with the gl502vs, so give it a try!

 

I added another identical 16gb stick of Samsung branded memory (32gb total, with game loaded on NVME and no OC), yet I'm still having issues with the laptop freezing while playing BF4 (after an hour or so which means its likely heat-related). I've tried at Low graphics settings and at Ultra and it will still happen. Checking temp after reboot, nothing looks amiss. Perhaps an issue with the memory on the GPU?

While having the cover off to add memory, I listened closely to the HDD and both fans and confirmed my annoying noise is out of the larger of the two fans. The large gray one on the right:



and here's the p/n on it. I really don't care to send the entire laptop in for an RMA when its a $10 swap I can do in 5min (shipping will cost more than that). Any ideas where to source one? I found the left side fan on eBay but not this one yet.

 

I actually already had that installed. But I'm not skilled enough to create my own profile. Mind uploading yours so I can see if your GL702vm works on my GL502vm?

I bought mine at HIDevolution (at dot com behind that for their website). They are authorized build to order reseller, so may be they can help you with a separate fan too.

Regards,
Salvolin

 

First - rule out your software. Nvidia drivers are the first thing to get reinstalled (use DDU) and get rid of GFE. If that still results in freezing - try adding 25mV to the GPU/CPU via Afterburner/XTU - if it still happens, it may be a defective motherboard.

 

Hello,

I think i am a little bit late to the party but i would like to answer a few questions if anyone wants to answer.

I've been looking for the gl502 with the 1070 and i saw millions of comments saying that it is draining battery while plugged in. However, i couldn't see if this has been resolved. Now i am wondering whether asus gave out 240W adapters or did everyone just forgot about it.

Also, how would an owner rate the laptop, in general, like daily usage wise. I have looked at many reviews but no review is better than the opinion of an user.

Thanks in advance.

 

Can't help much with the VS model since I use the slimmer VT/VM chassis - if you need input on that, I'll share mine, though.

 

Just as i posted my last message, i found out that newer models are shipping with 230W adapters and they don't have any issues appeareantly.

Also thank you for your quick response.

Now it is time to figure out the release date of the model number i intend to buy...

Have a good day!

 

nope, and none too polite to my inquiry to purchase a fan or even confirm the part number. "we're not a repair shop, we only help our customers". Good way to ensure I never become one, eh?

 

Check this out

 

Hi,
I have one of those a few weeks now. No battery drain so far. It stays between 96 and 99 percent while plugged in and gaming. It gets a bit hot, that's all. You can undervolt for that or just set the fans to 100% during a gaming session. (The laptop itself sets the fans to 100% only if the temp is really really hot ~90 plus degrees)

My previous systems where big clunky clevo's. This is not an ultra book, but it is small portable and silent for browsing and email.

It's a bit bigger than your usual 15" laptop. But still a lot smaller than a 17" Clevo. All around the screen it has like half an inch of plastic. That really made me wonder if the 17" version wasn't just as big as the 15" one. I never actually checked that since I already bought the 15" one.

I had the normal disk replace for a super fast flash disk. Resulting in a 3 second boot time.

If I have less than an hour I play on the 15" screen if I have more I use a 24" 2K Dell g-sync monitor which also works perfect.

So far this is the best laptop I ever had.

Regards,
Salvolin

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@Attila Papp, can you share your notebook fan control profile with me?

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perfect, thanks. Its the CPU fan correct?

 

The profile is included in the latest nfc beta version for the GL702VM. I dont personally use nfc, as I found out that it barely makes a difference compared to the stock fan curves

 

I think yes, but check out the model numbers if you can find them. I came across this website when I was looking to find a replacement backplate to drill holes in it. Not sure if I'll do it in the end. I'm pretty satisfied with my current setup right now

 

Yeah....the part numbers don't correlate which is what I'm not sure. Shipping is $25 so probably wouldn't hurt to order all three fans listed.

 

BIOS update 302 for GL502VMK is out! It optimizes system performance. Anyone tried it?

 

Yes , but the games frame rate seems to have dropped somewhat... How do I go back to Bios 203?

2 problems:

- Cannot find the bios 203 file to download
- Winflash will not let me flash an older bios version

UPDATE: Ok, I can install isuing this method:




but still cannot find the bios gl502vmk.203 file.....

 

Seems like they removed the 203 version.
Are you sure you're getting a worst frame rate than before? I installed it and apparently looks the same as the 300 version. I only noticed 2 things:

- The CPU doesn't reach 70°C anymore while starting programs or chrome. Before every time I started a program or just browsing the CPU would go up to 75°C for a few seconds, then go back to 50's. Now it only goes up to 60's.
- Soon after updating the BIOS I started Dishonored 2 and was unplayable. I had like 9-20 fps for the first 5 minutes. Then it went back to normal 60 and it never happened again.

 

The laptop in general seems to be quicker and snappier for general use with the newer BIOS 302 (web browsing, etc..), also I have noticed it runs a little cooler, not so much fan noise.
But I have the sensation of more micro stutter in games and maybe 3 or 4 fps less than with the 203 version of BIOS.

With BIOS 302, I have reset the CPU "processor performance boost mode" to "agressive" (in control panel power options, advanced processor power management), the CPU does not overheat any more like it did with the 203 BIOS.
With BIOS 203,I had to disable CPU processor boost mode , I had a few sudden laptop shut downs due to the CPU overheating when using boost mode with BIOS 203 (when gaming)

 

Oh now I understand.
I can't make a comparison with the 203 BIOS 'cause my laptop shipped with the 300 BIOS already installed, but those 4 fps less you're detecting kinda worry me, I don't like getting a performance downgrade. I am just curious since I never touched those settings. What's the difference between "processor performance boost mode" and " aggressive"? (regarding gaming)