Pascal ROG Strix GL502/GL702 Thread

I have gl502vs with 8gb ram, does it support ddr4 2400mhz ? Oficial documentation says 2133, i know it will boot with it, but question is if it will underclock that 2400mhz memory to 2133 or it will run at 2400 ?

 

it will automatically underclock. Ram runs at the lowest common speed

 

okay this is a new video from Dave2D. about GL553 and GL753.



at the 4:45 dave says "the fan are controllable by asus software".

why asus just allow fan control on the lower end model and does not on GL502VM/VS ? or maybe there's an update asus software later for the other model ?

 

different fan control chip

 

Surely you are right.

it is a pity. I would not mind reducing temperatures at the cost of more fan noise, after all I play with headphones.

 

Anyone have a GL502/702VM and try to update the thunderbolt firmware from asus website?

I tried running it, and it won't run. I don't even know what version thunderbolt I have.

 

I have the GL502VM ("old" model with Skylake).

I downloaded the file "Update Thunderbolt Firmware" on the Asus website. Firmware upgrade was successful.

It is worth noting that before I had updated Intel Thunderbolt software to the latest available version.

After the update, Intel's Thunderbolt software reports:

Thunderbolt generation: Thunderbolt 3 (15BF)
Number of ports: 1
Security level: User Authorization (SL1)
NVM Firmware version: 4
PD Firmware version: 1.07.06
External GPUs supported: Yes

 

I have just recently purchased the Asus GL702VM and when I'm using watching Twitch.tv or YouTube etc. the CPU is around 70 degrees Celsius. I haven't really gamed on it yet, but from the testing I did, it went up top over 90 degrees. Is this normal temps because it seems way too high for the activity? Also don't know if it's a common thing but it takes a very long time for the battery to recharge. I've also had some other issues like the keyboard not working and videos stuttering badly on battery with charger but it seems holding the power button for 30 seconds fixed them for now.

 

So I picked up a open boxed GL702VM from Best Buy yesterday.. so since the GL702 new price was $1199 on sale for 2 days or so (they told me it was a one day sale but I doubt it) the discounted price of the open-box was pretty significant and got the manager to go even lower so I got a very cheap deal on it.

Anyways, i'm liking the machine a lot so far (probably because of the overall cost).. Haven't done any gaming yet but been stressing the crap out of it and even tore it down and repasted everything with liquid metal.

The re-paste literally did zero on this machine, which tells me the cooling capacity of the pipes/heatsinks are already pretty much capped out. However, that being said, I can't recommend to re-paste as the factory job was very sufficient.

I've been seeing 86C on CPU and 86C GPU under Asus RealBench after 5 minutes. These aren't terrible numbers to be honest, i've seen laptops peg 100c CPU and hit the throttling threshold of the GPU under same situations. And this is with an undervolt on the CPU of -145mv core and cache. I do recommend undervolting the CPU as it does make a big difference in loaded CPU temps.

The good news is that when I run a CPU ONLY stress test, the CPU only hits about 72c tops and about high 70s under Prime95.. the CPU sided cooling after post undervolt is SUPER COLD and the fan is extremely quiet.

Under full tilt, the gpu and cpu fans going, yes you can hear it but honestly it's a nice low-toned wooshing sound.

I had the MSI GS63VR (two of them) and they were both extremely high pitched whiny sounding.. The GL702 is far more pleasant sounding and quieter.

More to come.. And I am a huge socketed-cpu laptop fan (as you can see in my signature) I have the Eurocom Tornado F5 which with a 6700K and 1070. I wanted a cheaper BGA machine to toss around in a bag and use on the go for fun with a large screen and so far the GL702 fits the bill.

Oh and the LG IPS panel on the Asus is top notch! 75hz and overclocks to 100hz easily with no side effects. There's a slight dithering or something at 100mhz but during games you can't see the difference from 75hz to 100hz. I wouldn't recommend using productivity apps/web browsing at 100hz because of how it sort of changes the look of the text from the overclock.. This is the same panel I had on my last Asus G751 with 980M (which was a huge heavy laptop). Anyways, this is a tried and true amazing 1080p 17" panel and the G-Sync is a great feature to have with the 1060 to keep it relevant in the future as games get more demanding.

I find the keyboard extremely comfortable to type on and actually kind of prefer it over my Eurocom F5 keyboard (which is a MSI GT62VR body and keyboard anyways). This one has lighter actuation and for me I like that feeling.

Downsides for me are the extreme orangey-gaming colors on the top lid and on the keyboard/deck but otherwise I think it's a solid buy if you can score one for around 1000-1100 dollars or less. However, I would probably say "meh" to this machine if it was being offered back for it's original $1499 price.. so for roughly $500 less, it's a winner so far.

Edit: G-sync seems broken on the latest Nvidia drivers but that seems normal, all g-sync laptops have broken G-sync AFAIK.

Edit: Seems like G-sync works in a lot of games.. some games it just falls on it's face and all choppy but for the most part League of Legends and G-sync doesn't work but everything else so far seems okay and working.

Being used to a 1070 for about 6 months, i'm surprised how fast this 1060 is at games at 1080p.. It runs as fluent and as many frames as my 1070 + 1440p.. It's a great card.

 

GL702 speakers are actually really good with clear highs and good amount of bass. And great stereo separation.. Only downside is blocking the left speaker when you're typing on the keyboard, etc.. The value is incredible in the GL702.

 

Yeah the GL702 is good value. I have had some issues with the track pad such as it being spongey on the bottom right side, which is most likely a manufacturing fault with mine. Sometimes when moving the cursor with the track pad it will go where it wants and clicks randomly or if I click it will instantly move like an inch away which is buggy. Has anyone else had any issues with the track pad? Also the temps can get uncomfortably hot when doing very minimal stuff like just browsing web pages, again that might be just mine though.

 

you mean your keyboard is hot to touch when web browsing? no way

 

The keys get warm but it's not uncomfortable. It's the underside towards the back that gets hot. I can't keep it on my lap as it get's too hot, it's not like it doesn't have good air flow.

 

Just got a skylake gL502vm, built in december 2016.

i think I might have gotten a good sample. There's hardly any coil whine, like near undetectable.

and the cpu runs kinda cool. The base clock is 2.6ghz, but it's able to hold steady turbo boost 2.85ghz forever, while the temps remain at 76-84C under 100% load in prime95

 

Hello . Can some one help me to decide
is it any reason to pay over for 120hz model ?
here she is - https://www.komplett.no/product/908099/gaming/gaming-pc/baerbar/asus-rog-gl702vm-173-fhd-matt-120hz#
or better to buy chipper gsynk one and overclock to 100hz?

 

can overclock the 120hz panel? ( I don't know ) but if yes then makes tougher decision!

 

I still have some questions about g-sync but this is my thoughts maybe I am wrong but here goes:

if { frame rate > screen panel refresh rate } { then

turn off g-sync or do not need it
turn on v-sync​

} elseif { frame rate < screen panel refresh rate } { then

g-sync is good! you do need it! turn it on! prevent tearing!
turn on v-sync
;#this is only time you need g-sync​

} elseif { frame rate == screen panel refresh rate / 2 } { then

turn off g-sync, or do not need it
turn on v-sync
;#for example, 120hz panel with 1060 with witcher3 60fps
;#note: sometimes you can set upper limit frame rate in game settings.
;#note: maybe you don't like that low frame rate ​

}

 

i used gsync once, game crashed, turned it off and never used it again

 

Asus GL702VS Full Review & Benchmarks

 

look the vent. it's not fully blocked by the panel. if only they make 15" design like this -_-

 

I've been eyeing up this laptop but I'm curious about the 3DMark score of the 1070 GPU. It doesn't hit the avg of 17K GRAPHICS score...maybe @GenTechPC can answer why??? @Kevin@GenTechPC

 

Thank you for this video. Very good. the Panel model auo119D does not show up as a 120hz panel in panel look ( or maybe I just can't find the specs ) ... it show up as some old panel Do you have any more detail on the make and model of the panel?

Basically I am just wondering the brightness ( nits ) and contrast, as that is what I would do for gaming. For gaming I do not care so much about RGB coverage.

Also I want to know if this panel has any "banding" issue like alienware 17 had with their qhd panel, or any backlight strobing. I assume not, so just checking.

I am trying to decide between a smaller 14 inch system with an external g-sync monitor, or a 17 inch system.

-Brett

 

Brett, I'm sure @GenTechPC would love to answer your questions, they are the ones that make those great video's, custom configure those laptops, and they are here on NBR

You can also contact them directly with your questions via their website, phone, email, chat(?), etc.

 

interesting they use a generic delta power adapter for the VS kaby lake

 

I followed your advice and emailed them directly today, but their reply was to watch the video and they did not see any issue with panel. I have asked for more detail because that is not what I asked. I trust they will answer tomorrow, if so I will post any substantial answer I get, if any, for the benefit of the forum. In the meantime, if anyone has better google skills than I do to find out the details of that panel please reply to this post. Thank you.

 

It has to be the same panel they are putting in the ROG 701VIs:
screen
17.3 inches 16: 9, 1920x1080 pixels 127 PPI, B173HAN01.1 (AUO119D), IPS, Full HD, G sync, 120 Hz, specular: no

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Asus-ROG-G701VIK-Laptop.197942.0.html

 

you're probably right. and thank you, the b173xxxx is the right code to google, now I found it. not sure why auo119D never showed up properly in google search. OK well - great contrast, and not the greatest brightness nits (but I guess 300 is not bad). thank you. very much.

 

I'd be careful making such assumptions, as Asus uses a number of suppliers and I've run across different screens even in the same model's along the manufacturing run.

It's best to ask the vendor to get the screen make / model from the specific laptop they are selling you.

 

You make a valid point. Hopefully @bwolmarans gets another response from @GenTechPC about the specifics of the panel.

In fact, I hope I'm wrong there because that particular panel is pretty unimpressive for an IPS considering there are better ones out there.

I'm still waiting on a response back about the Firestrike Graphics score that was unusually low. So far that laptop hasn't really impressed me so far...

 

As an observation after watching many vendor videos, I've noted they always have low performance numbers. I think they do this so as to not over promise on delivery.

Some users will put in the effort to configure their laptop for best performance, up to their personal skill level, which may not be the best possible result.

If an expert tuner puts in the effort, the score can be way up there and yet not attainable for everyone - so there would be lots of disappointed people when they couldn't duplicate the same results.

So vendors don't tune or OC, they just do the out of the box runs. Which won't be undervolted to run cooler, or tuned even with the basic OC tool the maker provides for high performance, or the Windows High Performance power plan, or Nvidia tweaks for best performance vs best quality, let alone setting up and tuning CPU OC or GPU OC.

You really need to get user reports or professional reviews from experienced people to get valid performance numbers

 

I know all to well that vendors are going to run these things straight out of the box without any tweaking. My curiosity came from the numbers from the video...the Firestrike graphics score shown was 15611 which seemed odd to me.

After doing a search on the 1070 equipped laptops through notebookcheck.net - http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Laptop.169549.0.html - it was obvious that this one scored even below the lowest score (15718) they have this data for. (26 different models)

Take a look at what the avg/median sit at...I wouldn't have said a word if the score was closer to those numbers but I digress.

Heck, I've tweaked my wife's ux501vw with a 960M for a max 4660 fire strike score, 4969 graphics score and stock it hovered around 4K.

 

the GL series isn't going to get beautiful lcd panels.

even the LG ips in the 502 is pretty damn average.

I wonder why they can't put desktop quality 8bit panels into laptops. They're always cheap 6bit panels with dithering.

 

Well I just pulled the trigger on a Asus GL702VS with 1070 and 512g and 120hz panel. Ill let you know what I think and do some test for yall.

 

How much did it come to, if you don't mind me asking?

 

2000 flat on amazon and overnight shiping

 

Hi. I have a GL502VM-DS74 with 7th gen intel cpus and would like to upgrade the hard drives, especially the SSD to a NVME one. But nowhere in the manual or online does it state how or where I can make a recovery USB or DVD to restore Windows 10 on the new hard drive (basically to factory settings). How do I go about doing this. Never seen a gaming laptop with no recovery options and for $2k that should be expected. Thank you in advance.

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...3a5-a286-9e98f886d490/create-a-recovery-drive

 

Yea, I'm just realizing that mine is just an m.2 SSD. I'm kind of ticked off at the moment about this. This is a 2k laptop and just an SSD is a rip off. You can get a Aorus X7 V6 for 272 dollars more. So pissed right now about this.


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yes, they really cut corners and charged extra for it.
For a $200 premium, you get 200mhz faster kaby lake, a slower 5400rpm hard drive, and a cheapass m2 ssd 128gb, which is worth maybe $50.

 

maybe the screen will be really premium. I'm waiting for detailed screen reviews. by the way, gentech pc hasn't had a chance to respond to my question yet, just wanted to mention that, I am thinking they probably are reading this thread and saw the question was answered by somebody on this forum. But there is also a different questoins about aero 14 I asked them a few days ago and they didn't reply to that one either, but fortunately another reseller replied instantly. Take it for what it's worth.

 

Well mine arrived and I have to say it is way over priced. It is one cheap looking laptop for $2K, the key board gets hot to just do word on, the right hand side gets to warm. My hand was sweating a bit while I was working on a word doc. The key board flex is pathetic. I am comparing it to my Alienware r3 17 which was cheaper by 300 bucks, just the quality and finish of the Alienware look and feel make me regret the purchase. So it's going back, got to love amazons 30 day return policy... I did game on it with ESO on max and the fans where not to loud though. My Alienware is louder.


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That's very disappointing to hear but thanks for the truth. Can you post some pics or comment on the screen quality ( any striping / bleeding / other issues )

 

As someone who owns one, I'd say get the cheapest model you can and upgrade the hardware yourself. That's What I ended up doing with my 502vs.

 

After all my research including the latest data from this thread, I finally have ordered a laptop, the x5 v6 120hz ( 320+ nits yay, 714 contrast boo) from newegg. For any members following me and my thousand questions about screen quality in the msi, asus, and gigabyte forums, the saga has ended with what I hope will be the right decision. I will update my signature later. Edit: a huge thank you to all nbr members who helped answer my questions.

 

The screen is not bad i was expecting more with a 120hz screen but I really have not put it to the test. There is bleeding at the bottom corners when the screen is black not a big issues. I also ran Fire Strike and got 13545 nothing like the 17000 average of the 1070 in other laptops. To be honest I just have an issue with the price compared to the quality of material and components when compared to other laptops IE AORUS, ALIENWARE. This is a 1500 or less dollar laptop not 2k. The Aorus X7 V6 a full body aluminum chaise i can get for 2275 with the FDH screen and 256 PCIE NVME and over 17000 FS Score or 2499 for the QHD screen @120HZ and 512 PCIE NVME storage. The Alienware I get pretty cheap and it is very good quality and components in my opinion. A $2K dollar laptop should at least come with a 256 PCIE NVME storage not just a 500 SSD and a 5400rpm HDD. Ill get some pics loaded up later for you.

 

Where are you looking at the fire strike scores? When I looked at notebook check the overall average score is 13.2k. Are you sure you're not mistaking the overall score with the graphics subscore?

 

To clarify here...the 17K Firestrike scores are the GRAPHICS score only for the 1070s...

Overall score is 13K, but @GenTechPC review was less than the avgs for both scores.

@dodgehemi0 it sounds like you have decent performer with the Firestrike scores. It's unfortunate that had a lot of negatives.

 

I wonder why Gentech's was so low. Here are my firestrike scores for my GL502VS. They're around the average for what a 1070 laptop should be.

 

I asked them that very question and still not have received a response.

Decent scores there, I think I'm going to hold out for the MSI stealth version with the 1070. The screens are nice and the slim form factor is what appeals to me. After seeing @dodgehemi0 's opinions on his GL702VS it made me think twice.

 

and the msi keyboard is nice - very, very nice.