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    ROG G71G-A2 pics!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by AM Radio, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Kernel

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    So is it paired with the ICH9M or ICH10 since there are conflicting reports with this as well?
     
  2. David

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    I'm willing to bet it's the ICH9M. Is there even a ICH10 for laptops?
     
  3. ViciousXUSMC

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    Yeah I am pretty sure ICH10 is in some newer models. Though I except it to really make no difference.
     
  4. David

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    Hey Vicious! Haven't seen you around lately on the Asus forum :rolleyes: Nice to see you again :) ;)
     
  5. plasma.

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    I'm planning to get me a G71-G A2.

    But with Dual Intel X-25 80GB SSD goodness :D
     
  6. RangerXML

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    mmm...get a g71g-q1 and one of the x1 or what ever with the 9800GS, switch out the GPU and then get the dual X-25 goodness :D I can dream, can't I :p
     
  7. Kernel

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    I just got off the phone with ASUS and this is what they told me:

    DDR3 1066 RAM support - No, just DDR2 800 max

    RAID support - No

    Chipset - P43 & ICH10

    The P43 and ICH10 seem like a weird combo to me though I do not know much about chipsets at this point as I haven't kept up on internal components for a few years... maybe someone with this machine already can run the chipset ID utility and straighten this out for good? :)
     
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    It's a dual lamp panel. This is the panel that is used in the G71G-A1
    http://auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=notebook&func=info&product_id=114&items_id=2
     
  10. sgilmore62

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    Excaliber just told me that is NOT a dual lamp screen, and they are supposed to have cancelled my order. I don't know how long it will take for the money to be returned to my account. One of the reasons I wanted this pc is because I thought it had a high end screen.
     
  11. EXcaliberPC

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    Our tech is checking on the screen for you right now. You should hear from us by phone in the next 10-15 minutes. Thanks!
     
  12. David

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    Either Excaliber is misinformed or AUO posted the wrong specs on their website :rolleyes:

    But I should also mention that the the screen on the G71G is brighter than the 300 nits LED screen on my U6V. I don't think any single-lamp LCD screen can do that.
     
  13. EXcaliberPC

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    G71G-A2 - Monitor Hardware ID: AUO2088
     
  14. David

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    EXcaliberPC Company Representative

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    David, You are exactly right. Backlight 2 CCFL it is!
     
  16. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Yes it is dual-lamp:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Now the technical support guy is telling me that the unit that he has is reporting the B17OUWO2. Now I have to wait, well I don't have to but going to wait for the money to be returned to my account. Why des every ASUS distributer have different specs for this machine? Another thing is the Asus website doesn't even have any of their latest notebooks listed.
     
  18. David

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    As I mentioned before, the G71G has the "B170UW02 V0" screen. This means it's dual-lamp. Asus rarely posts the individual part numbers for their laptops, so it's difficult for resellers to know until they have the units in hand to test and examine. In terms of the quality of the screen, I have mentioned them in detail in my review (the NBR staff should be posting my review very soon).
    As far as the Asus website is concerned, yes, their website management if very poor and has been for quite a while.
     
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    Thanks David, I should have straightened this out before ordering then cancelling then having to wait for the bank to return the money. I would not have cancelled the order but the rep told me he was 99.9% sure that it was not a dual lamp. I've been considering the Qosmio X305-Q706 because of the dual 9800m gts's. Don't care for the display or general reported build quality of the Toshiba though. I got an email quote from Toshiba that makes the 706 more attractive. The Asus looks much better IMO.
     
  20. David

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    Yeah, I saw the X305 at Best Buy (non SLI version, but same looks) and I find it hideous. I don't mind a little flashy, but having the entire screen cover in bright red with cheesy flames just doesn't appeal to me.
    Btw, if you're located in the US, you should take advantage of the live.com rebate. I purchased my G71G-A1 from gentech's ebay store for $1599 after rebate. ;)
     
  21. sgilmore62

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    David, the G71G-A1/A2 does not have a subwoofer right? Do the speakers sound good without a subwoofer or are they tinny sounding?
     
  22. David

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    Unfortunately, there's no subwoofer :eek: The sounds are louder than average, but still not the best, especially when the volume is set to the highest.
     
  23. Kernel

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    OK, a few more requests :)

    - Any results of this with 3dMark06 yet?
    - Can you take some pics or video of it with the lights going?
    - Is there an IR receiver somewhere?
    - What are the controls above and beside the keyboard tha look like touch sensative and lighted?

    Thanks!
     
  24. David

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    Benchmarks, pics and gaming videos are in my review :) you'll see them tomorrow hopefully :)
    No IR receiver
    The control above the keyboard are hotkeys for Direct Console, power4gear, expressgate, and disable/enable touchpad
     
  25. plasma.

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    Pics of the lights are a must! Oh, and benchmarks with CPU overclocking enabled and disabled.

    Thanks Dave, +rep for the review.
    Are you going to submit this on to Andrew? Cause I want to do the official one for NBR when I get mine :p (I like the grey user title)
     
  26. David

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    Thanks :)
    I submitted my review to andrew a couple days ago :p It should be up very shortly ;)
     
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    Um for G71G, is it intel centrino 2 core duo or intel centrino 1 core duo


    The gentech site for the G71G-A1 doesnt say its intel centrino 2 so i was wondering...or is it just my lack of tech knowledge.
     
  28. Delta_CT

    Delta_CT Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe it is Core 2 Duo, at least that's what the sticker in the first post shows. I'm sure that if was Centrino 2, they would have the right sticker since Centrino has become a well-established brand name. It certainly has the Penryn CPU and PM45 chipset, so I'm guessing that the wifi card is not one on the Intel specified list.

    Couldn't find any reference to Centrino on gentech. They do have the CPU listed as a Montevina (Centrino platform), which technically should be listed as Penryn (CPU codename), but why split hairs?
     
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    This is all very confusing because ASUS told me on the phone it is P43 and ICH10 whereas multiple sites have different chipsets listed.

    AM can you do a chipset check with the Intel Utility and give us the results?
     
  30. Delta_CT

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    I didn't think P43 exists for laptop chipsets, or at least it is not on Intel's website.

    http://www.intel.com/products/laptop/chipsets/index.htm?iid=notebook_body+chips
     
  31. plasma.

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    Of course it's Centrino 2, that's why it has a T9400 or P8400. Those CPUs are part of the montevina refresh for Santa Rosa. Centrino 2 is a "non-tech person" term for Montevina and Cantiga.
     
  32. Kernel

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    Right but just because it is not tagged as a Mobile Chipset doesn't mean it cannot be used in a laptop does it? I thought Desktop Replacements (at least back int he days of infancy) used desktop chipsets?

    EDIT

    Wow, this gets even WEIRDER. So ASUS tells me the P43 and ICH10 yet the P43 doesn't seem to support the T9400 processor based on the intel webpage

    http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=36521

    and the P45M pages does

    http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35515

    It is sad that even ASUS people themselves rely on bad documentation!
     
  33. David

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    Desktop chipset are different from mobile chipsets. Currently, there is no such thing as a P43 chipset for laptops. ICH10 doesn't exist either for laptops.

    Anywho, you shouldn't look into this too much. I'm sure other companies have had their pitfalls in the past as well. ;)
     
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    Awww, I just realized it comes with a Razer Copperhead.

    I just bought the Chaos Green version a week ago. :(
     
  35. Delta_CT

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    The folks at Asus may have copied and pasted their spec sheet from a desktop system and forgot to change some values. These things happen e.g., the listed dimensions for the G50V(t) are wrong because they are from the G1 and someone at the company didn't double check.
     
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    It's a Core 2 duo but not a Centrino because it's not using the Intel wireless chipset (using Atheros).
     
  37. David

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    Let me confirm the issue regarding the chipset. Apparently the G71G-A1 uses the P43 chipset with a ICH10 southbridge. How they do that, I'm not exactly sure :eek:

    [​IMG]

    I still prefer the Razer Copperhead over the Logitech MX518 that they used to have :D

    Yup ;)
     
  38. AM Radio

    AM Radio Notebook Evangelist

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    David

    dude, where is your review ...?

    got some temps to share just for the heck of it.

    webbrowsing, downloading + cd burning, about an hour.

    ACPI 45C

    Core #0 34C
    Core #1 35C

    GPU 60C

    HD1 40C
    HD2 41C
     
  39. David

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    It should be out any day now. Andrew (the NBR admin) has it and he should be posting it soon. :)

    The temps I got are similar to yours with the exception of the CPU (mine runs about 5C hotter).
     
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    wait, so what does this mean? does it affect performance, it being a core 2 and all?

    isnt that false advertising? i really want a G71 but with all these problems, i am not sure now. please advise! and thanks for help!
     
  41. David

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    This isn't a problem actually. It just means that the G71G uses another chipset and southbridge.
    There's really no info on the P43 mobile chipset, but P43 desktop chipset is basically the same as the P45 chipset with the exception of not supporting dual PCIe 8x slots (eg if you want to run dual SLI GPUs), and limits DDR3 speeds to 1066mhz.
     
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    oh ok. thanks a lot for clearing it up, David!
     
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    I just want everybody to know that the Excaliberpc people acknowledged their mistake about the screen specs and my account was reimbursed within 24 hours once the order was cancelled. Decided to go for the Qosmio X305-706 instead of re-upping with this model. The Qosmio is upgradeable with nearly every component. I got the 706 for $1750.

    I felt like the G71G-A2 was the best pound for pound, but when my order got messed up it seemed like bad superstition to go back to it. The 706 is upgradeable, although the QX9300 is an $1100 upgrade, i'm still only spending $3850 fer a pretty(well, it's actually pretty ugly) kick a#$ puter.
     
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    Since the P43 isn't designed for mobile, doesn't this mean that it could affect the power consumption and thereby have a diminishing affect on battery life?
     
  45. Kernel

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    Can't the review be posted without an admin as part of the thread?
     
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    That'd be nice, lol. I need to order on the 15th, was hoping to read the review before then.
     
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    I don't think the G71G uses the desktop P43, but even if it did, it won't affect the power consumption all that much. The main components that draw the most power are still the CPU, GPU and especially the screen.

    Sorry, but no can do guys. Andrew is currently in charge of the review posting, so we'll have to wait for him to finish all his edits, added advertisements etc before posting it. :eek:
     
  48. ALLurGroceries

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    All that is correct.

    For the life of me I can't find anything on the P43 express chipset for notebooks in specific. Maybe the specs are mostly identical to the desktop? In any event the platform as just been released and there is a surprising lack of info on the intel site. There are two whitepapers of interest here, one for the P43 Express and one for ICH10:

    http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/Chipsets/P43/P43-technicaldocuments.htm

    Notice the URL though. There is nothing to be found in the notebook section as of now. Anyone with the goods on the P43 express FOR NOTEBOOKS please spill the beans :)

    I am curious.
     
  49. Kernel

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    Right same here but the specs do not indicate PM43, it specifically states P43.
     
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    PM was a typo :p

    I meant P43 express for notebooks, I had a brain fart. There is no info anywhere on P43 for notebooks explicitly. The whitepaper I link to anyway is for the P43 which is what I was searching everywhere for, so I got the right keyword but typed PM a couple times in my post because I'm used to it when referring to intel mobile chipsets...

    I edited 'M' out of my earlier post ^^
     
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