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    ROG GX800 LAPTOP

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by cj_miranda23, May 30, 2016.

  1. jlpfr

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    Yes ! I know it's very expensive and I much less money than Mr Trump ;) but I wanted this laptop since it was announced, last summer, cooling is fabulous, design splendid, keyboard perfect, stunning power, display 18"4 excellent quality with g-sync
     
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    According to your FS run your graphic cards overclocks nicely up to 2038Mhz! Not too shabby for soldered one! How were temps during the run?

    And don't forget to make a review! We wanna know all details!
     
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    Don't forget to teardown and liquid metal/fujipoly treatment @jlpfr
     
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    @jlpfr I'd advise against any repasting until you get to know the characteristics of your out of the box configuration.

    No sense going off half-cocked, get a few weeks runtime before doing anything hardware wise - let the infant mortality take whatever it might before doing something on your own to the internals - you might get blamed for the problem.

    Liquid metal isn't a good first paste to try anyway, it needs a good fitment with no gaps in the mating, which if you already have those the temps are likely fine as they are.

    Use what tools you have, undervolting, giving the laptop good clearance for cold air intake by elevating the rear higher than the front, and make sure to exhaust the hot air away from the laptop into free space.

    When benchmarking use the full fan speeds to pre-cool the metal and then keep it cooling after the run - give your laptop time between runs to cool back down to the low idle temp before running again.

    With G-sync enabled and V-sync set in the Nvidia Control Panel Global settings, your gaming FPS will be limited to the screen refresh rate, and won't runaway unlimited - which would load and heat up the CPU / GPU unnecessarily.

    It's not necessary to repaste most of the time, and the small gains received don't translate into any gains worth the effort, except bragging rights and numbers that don't affect performance.

    If there is a temperature problem let Asus deal with it, you paid them for it, they need to be the ones to put the time and effort into fixing it.

    Don't let anyone talk you into pulling apart and ruining your perfectly good brand new laptop :)
     
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    @hmscott out of curiosity: do you know if repasting will void the warranty on this one?

    I mean, if all is perfectly running fine out of the box then there really is no need to repaste. Just keep it running and enjoy!
    If you have temp issues a simple repaste can solve most of it. I personally would start with ICD and some good thermal pads FujiPoly 11w/mk.
    But of course there is always the official way by letting the manufacturer do the trick! It depends, if you put enough faith in the repasting qualities of some tech staffs. I personally don't!

    Anyway: just keep us updated! The ROG GX800 will remain a rare sight on NBR, so every bit of information is appreciated!
     
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    seeing as this one has watercooling AND active air cooling as well, I don't think you need to repaste

    unless you're trying to get those sub 50c core temps on the 1080s
     
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  7. jlpfr

    jlpfr Notebook Guru

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    Temperatures are low especially GPU's during benchmarks (65°C/150)F)
    CPU 77C/170F

    I dont consider a repast, for me this laptop is perfect, I will not take risks to lose warranty

    Soon more tests with and without watercooling dock, promise patience
     
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    Asus has been supportive of user work on internals like re-pasting, at least from all the regions I have heard reports from, as long as you don't screw something up while doing the re-pasting and the paste doesn't cause problems long term (Liquid Metal Corrosive effects or shorting of components) your warranty is still intact.

    But, as always, file a Technical Ticket requesting an answer to whether user re-pasting or RAM/Storage upgrades are allowed for your laptop - and that it won't affect warranty support. That way you have an answer on file to refer back to later in case of discussion.

    In this case the water-cooling components are just like any other thermal components, except there's water in them - so be aware of that as you disconnect and handle them during the re-pasting.

    If you decide to re-paste this laptop please do video record the process and post it online to share it here :)
     
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    Of course but I dont think it's necessary, may be later... :)
     
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    Hopefully you'll enjoy your GX800 fully without ever needing to repaste :)

    Please keep posting benchmark, app, and gaming results - the good and the bad - it's all helpful
     
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    @jlpfr ^^ THIS!

    The Phoenixes and Titans out there needs some competition and it seems that your ASUS ROG (Codename: Aquila) is well suited for this task!
     
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    Soon other tests and bench :)
     
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    After going through two msi titans last week with issues. I jumped ship and bought the GX800 from Newegg. Will be here Tuesday. This is the final machine I can try so I hope it works out well!
     
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    Out of curiosity what issues did you have with the MSI Titans?
     
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    Maybe keep this one more than a few days, give it a chance :)

    IDK how you can reject 2 top laptops in a week... both awesome laptops.

    With the GX800 you will be on air cooling when off the dock, running effectively only 1 1080 from 1 330w PSU.

    If that works for you then the GX800 should run much quieter on the water dock under high load than the MSI air-cooled only, so that's pretty awesome.

    Please give it a couple of weeks at least, you'll need to learn how to tune it on both modes, air and water, to get the best performance.

    Where did you get it, price? Did it come with the cool Roll-around luggage?

    Looking forward to your review(s). :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Hello, I got it from Newegg and yes it came with all that cool stuff, lol. So far I have overclocked the 7820 to 4.4ghz stable. I ran a fire strike test and scored 14k on the CPU and 42K on the GPU (stock). GPU temps never went above 60C and the CPU maxed at 85c (4.4ghz) and 72C (stock clocks). Loving it so far but need more time to get familiar with it.
     
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    Awesome :)

    Glad to hear newegg is carrying it.

    Did it come loaded with water, or did you need to mix up the coolant and load it after you set up? Is there access to drain / refill the coolant?

    As it runs at load, are the fans / pumps / piping for liquid "quiet", how would you rate each item for idle vs load noise?

    What about off dock?
     
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    The system came loaded with coolant. From what I hear, asus will refill the coolant for you once needed. I can see the pump and lines inside but it will take some work to rip apart( which I am not doing ). The system is extremely quiet. While gaming I just hear the slight hum of the liquid dock, and very low rpm's of the system fans themselves. I have not yet tried off the dock. The only concern is the asus turbo gear overclocking options. For 4.4ghz and above, they shoot way too much voltage into the CPU. Ive seen voltages go to 1.4v on their profiles. So I do it all manually and sit happy at 4.4ghz with 1.21v. Temps never go above 85C during benches and gaming ( stay in the mid to high 70s during games). The GPU's are ridiculously cool. I have my 1080s at +200/+450 and they never break 65C ( in gaming I haven't seen above 62C). The screen is gorgeous and bright with very minimal backlight bleed. Keyboard is rock solid with the brightest RGB keys I have ever experienced ( no joke, I had to turn the brightness on the keyboard down). Build quality is very high, something I'm not used to seeing with Asus. No loud creaking for flexing when pressing the keyboard or opening/closing the lid. Overall, I am extremely happy. Asus really shocked me with this one. I am keeping this puppy for the next 2-3 years.
     
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    That's awesome, it's sounding like a winner then :)

    I haven't seen any newer reviews than that pre-production one done a few months ago. How is your's different than this one? :

     
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    ASUS $6000 Watercooled Laptop, 4K HDR Monitor and Even More Z270 Mobos




     
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    Update: so the CPU has been tweaked and locked to 4.2ghz for 24/7 use. Load temps during CPU intensive games hovers between 77C and 85C max. I'm assuming those are safe temps for 24-7 use. Idle temps are 38C.
     
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    @HaloGod2012 - it looks like you snatched your GX800 up just in time, the $5999 retail priced model by newegg sales is now out of stock:

    ASUS 17.3" GX800VH-XS79K Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7820HK (2.90 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI 64 GB Memory 1.5 TB SSD Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Gaming Laptop
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234463

    And, a price "gouger" has the only in stock offering, at $6,720 (!!)

    ASUS 17.3" GX800VH-XS79K Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7820HK (2.90 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI 64 GB Memory 1.5 TB SSD Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Gaming Laptop
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234463

    These are likely going to be limited run, and impossible to find, so given that, a 12% scalping charge isn't so awful ;)
     
  23. HaloGod2012

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    wow that's crazy! I didn't know it was going to be this hard to find and limited.
     
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    And, now it's back in stock with newegg offering it at $5999 again :)

    ASUS 17.3" GX800VH-XS79K Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7820HK (2.90 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI 64 GB Memory 1.5 TB SSD Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Gaming Laptop
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234463
    In stock. Limit 3 per customer. Ships from United States.
    Sold and Shipped by Newegg
     
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    do u have 4.4 GHz on all cores or on one core only and have setup 43/42/41 for when more cores are used?

    can u show me your settings / voltage
     
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    I am running 4.2ghz across all 4 cores. Everything is set to 42x and -100mv for the voltage offset. I only used 4.4ghz for some quick bench tests.
     
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    How is the sound levels while gaming and how do you like the keyboard and monitor?
     
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    Its extremely quiet at full load. The system fans barely turn on and all you hear is the slight hum of the liquid dock. The display is the best I have seen, up there with the new razer blade pro, without the glare. Colors are rich and its plenty bright. More surprisingly, very minimal backlight bleed. The mechanical keyboard is also good. Very sensitive keys ( 2mm I believe for response? ) and quiet. Also the brightest keys I have ever seen in my life, I had to actually turn the keyboard brightness down ( which is awesome ). I am extremely impressed with the quality and performance. This, however, should be expected for the 6000 bucks I paid for it. I know asus has quality issues, but this has been 100 percent different. I hope they apply the quality of the gx800 to the asus g752 and 701 series.
     
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    I am just wondering, if mid-seventies for the CPU with 4,2Ghz on all cores is "spectacular" for a water-cooled rig?
    I would have presumed lower temps with water cooling.

    Anyway: Congrats on this one! Sounds promising! The most important is that you're happy with it.

    Enjoy your beast!

    Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A3003 mit Tapatalk
     
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    CPU definitely runs much warmer than the GPU's. Sounds like a future repast project. The GPUs run insanely cool ( barely breaks 62C under full load ). The CPU @ 4.2ghz during watch dogs 2 ( which pegs all cores and threads to almost 100 percent the entire game) hovers around 77-85C. This is perfectly acceptable, but would probably improve massively with a new paste job. I also noticed the system fans, the fans actually in the laptop not the dock, never really spool up. So adjusting the system fan might greatly reduce the temp on the cpu.
     
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    So I have had my GX800 for a while now and so far everything is still going perfect! Gaming has been amazing on the 4k screen. I still battle games that don't support sli, but about 75 percent of my library supports it so not that big of a deal. I know we wont have many owners on this forum, but I hope to see more people chime in with this system.
     
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    After 3 defective RBPs and one GT73VR I've been looking more and more lately at the GX800.

    jlpfr, HaloGod, could you please share any (new) thoughts about the system. Maybe some aspects you don't like about the laptop. Would you buy it again :) ?
     
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    I second flazoon's request. There are prospective buyers who want to find out more about this machine before taking the plunge because as you are well aware it's a hefty investment.

    And if you could take the time to record a small review in which we get a better look at the machine's aesthetics, fan sound under load, keyboard typing experience and such it would be of a great deal of help :)
     
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    I went through 4 razer blade pros, so I feel your pain. So far I'm loving this machine. No issues yet, and everything has been performing perfectly. Yes, I would buy it again. No other laptop I tried was up to my expectations. There is nothing I disklie about the laptop besides the price, lol. But you get what your pay for. The only other con is the cpu and gpu being integrated, which is expected now. Also, the GPU's run stupid cool on the liquid dock. always below 70C during load with a overclock !! The CPU still like to run warm( 85C and below under load at 4.0ghz). These temps are within normal range given the overclock, but wish it was a bit cooler. This laptop gets a 9.5/10!
     
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    give us a shot of the laptop's internals
     
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    There is no way I'm opening this laptop up, lol. Linus did so he should have some shots now.
     
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    Sorry for the delay

    Sorry also for my english which is not very good (frenchy...)

    I can not find any faults in GX800, sincerely
    Before I had a MSI GT83VR, I do not want to 17 " only 18"4 choice is reduced...

    GT83 was making a lot of noise, heats up a lot
    Keypad OR touchpad...
    Keyboard location I dont like
    Display 1980 without G-Sync

    In USA the price of GX800 is 5990 $ with a very nice suitcase, obviously it's expensive but I find a better deal than MSI GT83VR 7RF

    I advise all those who can pay 6000 USD to buy the GX800VH, you will love this laptop !!

    It works very well also without the dock and single power supply, this laptop is a real a success for me
     
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    This thing has been awesome, still no issues after many hours of gaming and stress over the last several weeks. My only question: What happens when the cooling dock needs a refill? I haven't contacted Asus yet, but I read somewhere that they will refill it for you. I've also seen people change out the tubing and add some cool looking flow meters/colored coolant. I would love to do this but cant justify opening up 6,000 bucks worth of laptop.
     
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    If it's a sealed unit, it will be a long time before it needs added liquid, if it's done well. :)

    I'd email Asus against your registered GX800VH serial and ask what the replacement cycle is for the water cooler, if it's self serviceable - if you have water cooling equipment experience briefly mention that - and ask how will you know it's time to replace / add liquid.

    Asus are likely the only ones that really know this early in the lifetime of the laptop.

    If those teardowns you refer to show details of where the filler port is, and you have some experience, you can work out how to fill it - but you still need to know what the mixture is they use - it's important to only fill with the formula they recommend for that plastic / tubing / de-algae method.

    When you find out, please post the info here :)
     
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    Yes I've done a few custom loops on my desktops; Ill contact Asus and see what they say tomorrow morning.
     
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    I'm interested to know how effective the hybrid cooling is since it's just pulling heat off the heatpipes.

    Is it possible to say disable SLI, bench a single 1080 at full speed on fans only to compare with WCed? Or is this thing locked down to all hell

    Those reported CPU temps seem high I wonder what flavour of toothpaste they have on it... They are equivalent current draw air cooled only LGA temps. I would have thought lower with the WC
     
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    What flavor? hmm, come on down and brush so you can find out;

    Yes you can disable sli, and yes you can control all fan speeds on the laptop and the dock. My temps were high because the stock voltage is very high. I have since undervolted to -150mv and saw a nice 10C decrease. The GPU's under full load never go above 70C, they hover in the low to mid 60s. I am impressed. I have not tried without the dock, because I never intend to game without the dock.
     
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    Hi, the gx800 can run without dock? namely.... the dock is more eficient, and activates an overclock in all of system, but, the laptop can run the sli and gaming only with air cooling?

    The supply is included in the dock? or apart? thanks
     
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    so I finally did some reading on the liquid cooling dock and I contacted ASUS. There is a liquid level indicator built into the reservoir. When you hear the alarm beep a certain tune on startup, this is a warning that the liquid is getting low and to contact ASUS. Once its a solid beep, its dangerously low and will not function without a refill. Asus will send out a technician to refill the dock for free as long as nothing was tampered with. The tech told me I should be good for a few years before needing a refill. He was more specific later on and said that 5 years is about how long it should last if there are no defects. which is probably longer than most people would keep it. Pretty good deal!
     
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    Has anyone not had any luck with repasting? also anyone know the refresh rate of the monitor?
     
  47. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    60hz

    don't think anyone here is balls enough to open up such an expensive machine, yet
     
  48. NiNoDuKEz

    NiNoDuKEz Notebook Evangelist

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    this post seems dead, anyone have any other experiences with the machine, mines coming in afew days, i had it repasted though with liquid ultra on cpu and IC diamond on gpu's
     
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    Congrats on the new Asus GX800!!

    I think you are the first to repaste out of the box - I hope you had them run tests to get a baseline reading on the original paste job so you can determine the improvement from the repaste - or lack of improvement - sometimes it's worse.

    Be sure and run full tests on CPU / GPU under various benchmark and gaming loads, and please come back and let us know what you find :)
     
  50. bennyg

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    Before opening up an eleventy thousand dollar new laptop I'd get it explicitly in writing from Asus beforehand to make sure it's not going to void warranty ...
     
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