The NEW Asus G74SX & G53SX - NOW Available for Pre-Order at GenTech!

It looks the exact same as the G73 to me. Just with more aggressively designed vents and a LOVELY KEYBOARD.

But its the same design in every way. You won't like the G74 if you didn't like the G73.

 

I will go for the Asus still... MSI's laptops have BAD HEAT PROBLEMS (I had 2 laptops... bad!) and I like the style (g74sx)

 

Has anyone reviewed the cooling on the GT780 both stock and OC? If you dial things around for both to have roughly the same equipment (at Gentech as of 7 Jun):

17.3" 1920X1080 FDH
i7-2630QM
GTX560M
2 x 500GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA II
4xBR/8xDVDRW Super

GT780R -> Matte screen, 1.5GB VRAM, +1 USB 3.0, +1 eSATA, +1 yr Warranty

G74SX -> 3.0GB VRAM for $69 more

Is the VRAM and cooling worth loosing the 2 extra ports, matte screen and 1 extra year of warranty?

The other thing the Asus does is the screen opens to a hard stop. Seems like fewer viewing options for an off-center viewer. My primary use (well, justification really) for this machine is entertaining my wife by playing RPG games.

Homer

 

Not sure about the cooling on G74, but the extra 1.5Gb video RAM most likely will make no difference at all compared to the 1.5b version 560M on GT780R, even high end desktop GPUs can rarely use more than 1Gb video RAM and they are WAYYYYYY more powerful than a 560M.

 

Ken, just to "reverify," let me get this straight.
You specifically spelled out the 15" GS53SX-A1 will NOT have naked eye 3d, at least in North America.

However, you wrote on the G75SX-3DE will not have naked eye 3d as well?
Does that mean the G75SX-A1 will? If so, then whats the point of paying more for 3DE over A1?

Sorry, I just want to clarify whatever I'm thinking so I can make the right purchase from you =]

 

I have the new gr683r and one thing I can tell you is the cooling system is amazing, temps stayed in low 70's after few hours of gaming (turbo fan on). I think it was mentioned by someone that it ran cooler then the Asus after a comparison.

 

Sure it ran cooler but what about the noice? That is also very important

 

I think, the best thing is to wait till Notebookcheck will review them.

 

It's not G53SX-A1 will not have naked eye 3D, it's Asus will not have any 3D models for 15.6" in North America.


The upcoming G74SX-3DE will not have naked eye 3D, the naked eye 3D will be provide for future models.

 

Just because of the Noise issue, I will prefer g74. I hope it can be silencer than g73.

 

You are right turbo fan is definitely loud but for me I only use it while gaming which I don't hear over the audio. The normal fan for everything else is very quite.

 

At my clevo m571tu, I even hear the fan more than speakers at game. I can't tell how much it is strong. Therefore, even average noise while gaming kills me. I hope g74 will solve the problem

 

If the G74 is anything to go by the G73 it will be deadly silent, you are all comparing a totally different model to a laptop that has a specific mode known as a turbo fan.

My G73 fans never go above 3200RPM since flashing to 213.

 

I wish the G74 didn't use that weird "soft touch" paint...

Hmm...I keep checking things to see if it's available yet :-D

 

I'm quite happy about the 12GB RAM as a standard. That should work wonders with video editing work.

Anyone with any idea if the graphic card matters with AVCHD video editing? What about the VRAM? Does it affect video editing much, too?

 

Is it 100% certain that the GTX 560 on the G53sx is going to be worse than the GTX 560 on the g74?

 

According to the specs from ASUS, the 560m on the G53 is only supposed to have 2 GB of VRAM as opposed to 3 GB on the 560m that is in the G74, so it will be a slight step down. While these specs may be different come release time, they are usually pretty accurate.

 

And a 128bit bus instead of 192bit, which is the important part.

 

How are your measuing the RPMs on your G73?

 

HWiNFO32, I would guess.

 

AVCHD video editing all depends on the CPU.

 

Thanks. So this laptop's perfect. =)

Drop the Blue-ray drive and top up the RAM to 16GB and the price is still the same. Oh yea ...

Something just hit me: Wasn't the screen on the promo video of this laptop matte?

 

The 3D version has matte screen, the non-3D version has glossy screen.

Forgot to mention, CUDA enable applications will help with AVCHD editing with faster GPU.

 

Brilliant. But I'll probably skip the 3D. (Will remember that about CUDA, thanks.)

 

It would depend on the program you're using it edit it. This should be REALLY good by notebook standards either way though!

I know the high end programs are more and more offloading stuff to the GPU, and in particular support Nvidia hardware (eventually stuff will probably transition to OpenCL to run on AMD too).

 

Why would Asus do that to the G53SX-A1 top model version and cripple it to 128-bit? The Sager NP8130 has the GTX 560m w/ 1.5gb memory instead of 2gb from G53SX and 3gb from G74SX but it is the 192 bit.

Are you telling me the 2gb gtx 560m of a top model like G53SX-A1 that will sell upwards of $1,400 has the 128 bit only and will be slower than a gtx 460m that is 192 bit.

I'm sure it will be the 192 bit unless you got some kind of proof.

 

These arent really upgrade`s from a g73jh? I dont see the logic in Asus`s thought process. I`m not going to spend $1400 on a new computer for at the most a few extra FPS. Im assuming these are for people who DONT own a g73 or similar notebook. Not been reading much into it but is the 560m not just an overclocked 460?

I also find the new design ugly. They should have stuck with the g73 case. Improve the touch pad. Move the audio inputs and add some firewire. Stick with 8gb ram. 60gb SSD and a 500gb storage drive. Add a AMD Radeon HD 6970M (or add some crossfire options) and bump the cpu up a notch.

 

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No, of course not. This is just another revision, just like they've done three main revisions of the G73 so far. You wouldn't want to upgrade from any of them to the next one, nor from those to this...wait a few years for something significantly better IMO.

The SSD you can do yourself. The CPU, Asus tends to pick the best bang for the buck model, that's nothing new. The GPU...well, I'd love a GTX 470 or something, but I'd assume that or the 6970 would be more expensive. In the case of the 6970 the drivers would be worse too (and so far the models using it I'm aware of use switchable graphics and can't even use AMD's normal drivers).

 

Question to Ken - when will you find out exact specifications for G53's video card???

 

will there be a asus g54?

 

Probably, but might first when the 2nd generation of G74 lands, since they just lanched g53sx

 

So far we know it's GTX560M with 2GB VRAM, we will know the exact specification when the laptop is here and post screenshot of GPU-Z

Asus didn't redesign G53SX so there won't be G54.

 

I just watched the video on the first post.... jeese was that a movie trailer or a laptop promo

 

yeah the g series laptops have really great ads. hahaha it makes the product much more awsome

 

Thanks everyone...this thread seems to be very helpful.

Questions to ken and others:

I'm planning to buy a laptop in a month and I have to take some concrete decision within a week or so. I'm in a big dilemma now after having read several reviews. I'm not a very big gaming enthusiast but I do occasional gaming.
I have shortlisted 3 options for myself:
A. Asus G53SW-A1
B. Asus G53SX-A1
C. Asus G74SX-A1

Please help me choose one. Amongst the three, G74 seems to be better but I'm hesitant because of the following issues:
1. It's a 17". Wont it have portability issues even though their weights are almost the same?

2. Is it worth to shell out that extra $200-300 for the 3G GTX560m and 12G ram considering what I have heard that such huge capacity is redundant as compared to 1.5G 460m and 8G ram?

3. How much is the increased GPU speed going to affect in various aspects?..Are they significant enough to overwhelm 1.5G GTX460m?

4. The most important fear: It'll be brand new in the market when I purchase.
So, no one actually knows how the laptop will perform, will it be better, worse, etc. So is it a risk?


Secondly, if I go for A or B, I will have to go for some customization to suit my needs for eg: blu ray drive, a little more hdd capacity.
But if i go for these, then the company warranty wont apply on these which makes me a little hesitant on going for them either.
Also this factor might delay the delivery.

I have also heard that G53SW has some keyboard and touchpad problems causing a little inconvenience. The reviews are not good.
How bad it really is?
And if it is then does the same apply to G53SX and G74SX too?..Though I expect the same problem in G53SX at least, I would like to confirm it from you guys.


As far as G53SX and G74SX are concerned, exactly want time in July can we expect the laptops considering the previous experiences with asus?
And after the arrival, is there any waiting delay from the vendors side for shipping the laptops due to the order numbers or are they taken care of and everyone gets it in time?

 

You'll have portability issues like I mentioned before. You'll need a non-standard bag that can carry 17" laptops. Erm just do what I did. walk into a bestbuy (all bestbuys should be carrying them on display) and check out the 73sw. close the lid and see how big it is. I kid you not, i just did this earlier today.

most games won't use up 1.5gb of vram. the 3gb or vram thing will be most useful for 3d gaming (but kinda moot unless it's a 3d rig,) but basically 1.5gb vram per eye. 560m is still better than 460m, overall. ram, not so much.

It's faster but not by much. There are gpu's that far surpass 560m that came out way before 560m like 470m, 485m, amd's 6970, etc. What are you going to do with it? I think you mentioned that you won't be gaming much on it...

not much, g53sx has a proven chassis (g53jw,g53jh,g53sw) so it should be fine and 560m seems to be working fine on the msi's so far. g74 doesn't look too different chassis-wise so i see little risk there as well. The only major difference is that they'll have 560m instead of 460m. Not quite next generation enough to be worrying about, methinks. It's not like when iphones first came out. this scenario's more like the iphone2 release.

think of them as car dealers (assuming they are legit authorized resellers,) you still have the warranty even if they upgrade your Mazda with a gps device. same concept applies here.

 

I think until they move into 28nm we wont see anything mayor, the GTX485m is a superb card for mobil card, but its price its almost prohibited. I think the GTX660m (im just smoking the name), will be worth it (if they go with 28nm) and ivy bridge.... good times coming next year.

 

Thanks a lot for putting in so much info

Yeah.. I saw a 17" Asus once..It is huge...that's why I'm a little worried..the only thing that puts me in a dilemma is that the 15" weighs as much as the 17"!!



Is it worth to buy a blu ray reader? I heard we need some kinda software..Is the software required only for writing or reading as well? And cant ppl get any cracks for the software from net?

And what would be your verdict amongst the three:
G53SW-A1
G53SX-A1
G74SX-A1

 

Anyone think the the 2gb gtx560 is a typo because on xoticpc in the description is says is has a 1.5gb graphics card.
ASUS G53SX-A1 - XOTIC PC - ASUS Gaming Laptop

 

Says 2048mb everywhere else on their site.



EDIT: I can't even find anywhere it says 1.5gb. Even in main description it is saying 2048mb.

 

I found it!!!!
Do I win a cookie?

 

Ummmmm....NO!

They really love big up that mid range card don't they!

 

Thanks for pointing out this typo on our website, it has been corrected.

Who do I need to send cookies to?

 

Viking Kingdom

Dont forget the milk!

 

That's weird, because they advertised the G53SX 3D and said that it would be released Q4 in Europe and U.S.

Check out the video:
YouTube - ‪Asus G53Sx 3D Naked Eye‬‏

The ASUS rep. clearly said Europe and U.S..

So, if you really want the 3d version, just wait for it. It'll just come out after the non 3-D one.

 

I had a question. Due to my nephew dropping water on my old G72GX, I have been forced to buy a new laptop. I had pretty much decided on the G73SW-XT1
Located Here, but by accident I happened to come across this thread. I will be buying the laptop in about 2 weeks, now my question is this: Should I go ahead and purchase the G73, or is the G74 worth the extra $265, and the wait?

 

You probably heard this a million times but "depends on what you wanna do."

Simple answer is yes, imo.

A more complex answer is, if you're buying this "gaming laptop" to play games, you want the fastest gpu for the budget you have. the $265 you pay extra are for the (1) extra hard drive, (2) more ram, and (3) more v-ram on an (4) improved gpu, (5) slightly newer (and improved?) chassis. Monetarily, it seems like it's worth it.

So, question again is, is that what you need?

 

Even cheaper, but no BluRay.

Newegg.com - ASUS G Series G73SW-XN2 Notebook Intel Core i7 2630QM(2.00GHz) 17.3" 8GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M

 

No included bracket for the second drive bay either (or bag).