The NEW G73JW-3DE, INFO, Specs, and Pre-Ordering Available!

Did updating the drivers help? I saw your post in the Nvidia forum and like the other guy said you have older drivers. It sucks that Asus didn't install the latest drivers before shipping it out.

Update:
Emmm....I just noticed that Nvidia doesn't want you to install the latest drivers on the G73. This is from their website.

NOTE: If you are using one of these notebooks – Acer 5745 3D, ASUS G53JW, ASUS G53JQ, or ASUS G73JW – please do not update the factory installed driver with this Release 260 driver. Please continue to use the driver installed on your notebook.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce-3d-vision-notebook-winvista-win7-cd-1.38-whql-driver.html

 

if they let you update the drivers.. that would be awesome! ...but one more thing...
is it possible for you to Overclock it?

Then try run the FFXIV Benchmark in Overclocked mode... since the 460M is Underclocked.

This should be a big boost to it...
(I'm looking for a laptop for FFXIV also!.. please let me know the benchmark score on 1080p and 780p ^_^)

 

That flickering really concerns me. I bought the G51Jx-3DE a few months ago and returned it. After the return, I got a new one, and the same thing started up again. Each time the laptop was fine for the first few days, then the flickering started. The longer the laptop was turned on, the worse the flickering got. I figured it was an underlying GPU problem; a loose solder or something. Also, the GPU on the G51 is not nearly as capable as the one on the G73.

So, I was really hoping that this "flickering" would not be a problem on the G73. Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution? And has your problem got any worse?

 

Voodooi, I just right click and select the nvidia option then under 3d tick the enable stereophonic 3d and the tick box for 2d to 3d ( I think, laptop not in front of me) and to test run through the set up options you can activate there. In there you do a few checks, tick the tick box to say you read the health and safety booklet you threw in the bin then it gives you a 3d slide show. Then fire up your game. If this doesnt work for you i will get the laptop out and note down everything I do.
I tried crysis in 3d full 1080 HD, it was a bit choppy but worked. The 3d in the game was not great. I'm installing wow tomorrow if work time allows so will give some wow 3d feed back once I try it.
Hope you get your 3d working!

 

Good news guys!

I got 3D working thanks to Ken's (GenTech) technical support via phone. Spent over 30min troubleshooting.

Ken > Entire Asus Call Centre

It's basically a stereoscopic driver glitch. If you update your drivers, the build-in emmiter's green light will no longer function/turn on and communicate with the glasses.

When I say drivers, I mean the one's from the official Asus website. Don't grab them! They're evil. Don't grab any at all that involve 3D/VGA.

Hopefully this glitch will get fixed soon, b/c people who don't read these forums (and that do not buy it from a reseller) and that update their drivers will go through a miserable experience - Especially since Asus believes all 3D laptops only work when plugged via HDMI-3DTV.

If your emitter no longer functions, unistall the stereoscopic 3D driver, followed by the nVidia driver, and use the DVD to reinstall them (two reboots total), open the nVidia control panel after the reboot, run wizard in the stereoscopic 3D section, activate the glasses, follow the steps and view the 3D picture gallery to confirm it's operational. The emitter should work and light up green.

Keep in mind that mine was 3D for 5 minutes out of the box, and then the emitter no longer worked, so even if you don't update your drivers, you may still have problems with the stereoscopic bugged driver and should follow the above instructions.

Also, another tip is to use "Cineplayer" to play the demo included with your unit if you want it to be 3D (and all 3D movies).

^ All credit to Ken.

Time to go to class soon, so I won't be able to immerse myself in 3D until later tonight, argh! lol

 

Well, now people in this forum are saying NOT to install the newest drivers. I don't know what to do.

And unless I'm mistaken, the only way to go into "overclocked mode" is to press the Turbo Boost button on the unit itself, correct? I made sure that it was in its Turbo Boost mode before I ran the benchmark, which is why I was so surprised that it ran poorly.

Now I don't know what to do since they don't want you updating the drivers on the G73JW, so I am going to keep an eagle eye on any developments on this issue!

 

Thats Great!
Video soon?

XoticPC still have no updates.
Whats up?

 

The Turbo button is a boost too.. but overclocking it manually with
MSI Afterburner review

will gives better result (am I right?) ... but i forgot the number you should overclock it... should be somewhere in this thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...m/515430-asus-g73jw-discussion-thread-71.html

download MSI Burner here
MSI Afterburner

 

Oh no, is this going to be another nightmare unit for driver updates?

We always crack them, but this time its probably going to be that much harder.

I have my G73JH-A2 up for sale to get this, but the urge to back out is creeping up on me.

I like being able to install new drivers (and having the AMD 5870M)

 

This is my first time buying an Asus. Are they bad with updating their products and supporting them? I would hate to spend money on this and it not be supported. I know it just released and it may take them sometime but I'm just curious about their other notebooks.

 

This is pretty insane. So if you update to Asus's latest drivers your machine becomes pooched? What if you update from Nvidia's site?

Is this the way it has been with Asus notebooks for some time? Do they make a custom driver update or are we just stuck with the old ones?

 

Asus is a great company, ALL laptop companies only sparingly release official updated drivers.

We take it upon ourselves to update them along with the released directly from Nvidia & AMD.

There has been a recent change on the market where Nvidia & AMD are releasing mobility drivers so that you can not have to rely on your manufacturing brand to release supporting drivers but the laptop has to be compatible with them.

 

When you say "we take it upon ourselves to update them" who are you referring to as we? Is there some underground group that makes homebrew drivers or are you referring to the we as something else?

I just don't want to spend a fortune on a computer to find out that its so niche that the newest updates will never make it onto it.

Did someone condense my two posts into one or does it do the multi-quote automatically?

 

It's nVidia's 3D Vision software glitch, I may have a simple solution and I'll post it if I can confirmed it'll fix the problem.

 

Yet another reason to buy from GenTech.

 

Just the 3D part becomes pooched if you update the drivers. Drivers worked fine on my G53JW (non-3D) and my previous Asus laptops. This is the first Asus product I've had an issue with in regards to drivers (or anything for that matter). I'm hoping that this will be fixed soon, but props to Ken for putting people first - thats rare in the business field these days. I can live with this driver for now. Not like it's hindering anything, since I'm playing SC2/BFBC2/WoW on ultra (and you obviously have to lower it if you're playing in 3D since it sucks up 15-30% of your performance).

This laptop is very good in other areas. Screen is top notch, gaming on ultra has been lag free and the size/weight is fine (had it on my legs for almost 6hrs gaming straight when cataclysm launched).

 

So.. the G73JW-3DE in non3D-mode has the same exact performance as G73JW ??

If you have time... would you please try this benchmark on your JW-3DE for me?
FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark

 

Theyr'e both identical in terms of performance. Well, maybe a small boost (15%) from hybrid drives when loading.

What the 3D version has that the regular JW doesn't is a superior screen, dual hybrid drives, blu ray burner, and 3D.

FF score 1510. Really good video. Resolution selected was 1080. I also activated turbo mode for the entire sequence.

 

1510??? Is there a typo here? Was this with or without 3D enabled? 1500 is poor performance for a gaming laptop. I was hoping it would be over 5000.

[8000 and over] Extremely High Performance. Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
[5500–7999] Very High Performance.Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.
[4500-5499] High Performance.Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.
[3000-4499] Fairly High Performance. Capable of running the game on default settings. Consider switching to a higher resolution depending on performance.
[2500-2999] Standard Performance. Capable of running the game on default settings.
[2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance. Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.
[1500-1999] Low Performance. Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.
[Under 1500] Insufficient Performance. Does not meet specifications for running the game.

 

Ran it a second time. Got 1551 this time. This is with nothing in the background except a firefox tab and 3D was NOT active.

I do have the factory/DVD drivers installed b/c I want 3D to work in my games, so maybe it's that? The video did run lag-free. Perhaps the game wasn't really made well, considering all my other games run on ultra lag-free.

EDIT: Ran it in lower resolution for you and got: 2690.

 

Thanks for running it again. I had a lot of hopes for this computer and I am a little disappointed with the performance so far.

Ken(or anyone else who has this model), if possible could you run this benchmark test too please. Just want to make sure that this poor performance has nothing to do with the drivers that Voodooi had to fix to get his 3D working.

 

From what I have seen the FFO benchmark score didnt exactly correlate with how well it ran the game. I have seen crazy desktop systems score just average on that benchmark. So I'm not sure I would take it completely to heart. Plus the 260.99 Nvidia driver was supposed to fix some of the issues with the G73jw and FFO. I know that the 3de model runs 261.14, but I'm not sure if Asus included whatever changes were made in the 260.99 official driver in their revision of it. When a customer of ours used the method to trick the G73 into accepting the 260.99 drivers his FFO went from low performance to completely playable on medium-high settings.

 

@Joseph
Any news on g73jw-3de from xoticpc?
You said you guys will start shipping this week ( link). Is there any chance of really shipping it this week?

 

I'd just like to say that I've played FFXIV on my computer, AMD Phenom 9500 Quad 2.2 GHz, ATI Radeon 3600, 6GB RAM, and it was playable and beautiful, and I just ran the benchmark and got a score of 800. So don't worry too much about the score.

 

I don't think it's the driver I think it's the game needs to patch. with stock driver all other games runs normally.


For the 3D Vision not able to activate after new driver installation, I found out it's the 3D Vision driver has to be uninstall first before install the new driver:



On the G73JW-3DE drivers DVD it has to separate drivers folder one for GPU and one for 3D emitter:



The 3D Stereoscopic driver on the Asus DVD does not work on other nVidia drivers, therefore, it has to be uninstall first otherwise it'll cause some kind of driver conflict and cause 3D emitter not function.




Each Driver version has it's own 3D vision driver, 260.99 for example it has it's own 3D driver and it does not work with Asus's 261.14:



I tried installed the 3D Vision driver from the 260.99 with Asus's 261.14 and the 3D glasses no longer function, exact same problem like Voodoo experienced. Uninstall 3D Vision driver from 260.99 and install the one came from Asus DVD and the problem solved.

Also the G73JW-3DE already came installed with newer GPU driver, so 3DE owners don't need to download new drivers from Asus.

 

Mine just shipped today from J&R and it should be here by tomorrow afternoon. I can't wait. It looks like they have them available to ship within 5-7 days if anyone is still looking to get one.

 

Great post, Ken! Always on-top of things

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Some notes for you buyers:

The touchpad is the best I've owned. Buttons DO NOT require you to work it in for weeks. A slight press does the trick. Touchpad is also significantly larger than the G53's (biggest one I've ever seen). Keyboard is responsive to all keys. Cooling so far is nice (very silent).

I will note that the bag that come with the unit is not recommended. Why? Because you need to squeeze/jam the G73 in it. I called Asus and they claimed the bag was a G73. You know the top corners of the bag? Like where the handle is? Well there's no padding on the sides/corners, so if you knock your bag's top against something, you'll smash the laptop. This wasn't a problem with the G53 b/c it was over 1" smaller and slipped into the padded area. Just an FYI. Not sure why Asus didn't bother padding the top of the bag and only padded 80% of it. If you're on a budget, I'm sure two pairs of thick cloths would do the trick on each corner.

Edit: Oh, and the rubberized LCD cover is way better than the G53's plastic finish. There's no marks to clean (as in fingerprints). The G53 required endless cleaning. They should of made all G-Series laptop rubberized. I didn't know how big of a difference the rubber finish was until I owned both.

And for those who place an LCD-friendly cloth between the LCD and keyboard when doing your travels, I recommend seeking a 19" to fit, since a 17" will be too small (tried it already). This prevents scratches to your LCD if it's squeezed. Why I always recommend doing this is because I owned an MSI laptop earlier this year and a 10 minute walk to school (bagged laptop) lead to a minor LCD scratch, so now I'm a cloth-freak and tell everyone to get one.

 

oh.. noez... this score is lower than a normal JW.. something must be wrong.
cuz i've seen a normal JW score 1080p at 2,0xx points (no offense)

Here here... lets try these
- Did you overclock your JW3DE? with MSI Afterburner (not the turbo button)
- PhysX off?
- All other background process/program should be off... (ex. firefox, media player ... blah blah)



one more go with these please?

I believe there are many many FFXIV players looking at this JW3DE laptop too...

 

I'm not testing it again

Did it three times, posted my results.

As noted above (see Joseph's post a few behind this one), that benchmark download package seems to me that it's bugged, since a high-end gaming desktop scored low and much higher in the actual game.

I don't overclock/use afterburner and as mentioned, tested it with 1 firefox tab (I went afk on teh video while it tested). It has to be the benchmark download if people are reporting a skyrocketing change in performance when in the actual game.

 

The 1551 was around the score I got when I ran it on Low Resolution when I tried it on the G73JW-A1, and I got around a 1300 on High.

While this could be a driver issue, it's still near what the 3DE is getting. My 8800 GT on my desktop gets on low resolution a 1900.

Yes the benchmark is terrible, but it still disturbs me that the card is getting such low scores compared to a several year old desktop card.

But I really want this laptop. The whole unit feels beautiful, and the 3D seems cool.

But I just realized Sandy Bridge processors are going to come out in January... Maybe I should wait? (granted, they'll be expensive as heck!)

 

People were saying that although Sandy is coming out in Jan, it'll take a few months to get into Asus gaming laptops. I'm not sure how precise this information is, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'd say get it (since now we now know a quick 3D fix). The screen is just so good.

 

As tempted as I was for this, I think I'm going to wait for Sandy Bridge with the next 5xxm Nvidia or 6xxx mobility Radeon cards.
Hopefully by then (Feb/March?), the 3D would be better hashed out as well.

I can't wait to see what they show off at CES Jan 6.

 

All G73 variations are keeping the same 460M as we see now as the GPU with the refresh 1st Quarter Next Year. Basically just a new CPU to the 2630QM.

 

Sweet mine shipped out from J&R yesterday, and will be here next Tuesday. Unfortunately I will not be here next Tuesday, so I will not get to play with it

When you get yours from J&R, can you confirm the Blu Ray is a writer, and not a reader, because on the J&R website, it is still listed as a reader, and that concerns me...

 

It's surprising that some websites are already giving discounts in spite of the fact that there is a decent demand for this laptop (given the small or no stock levels)

J&R's price is $1900, buy.com's price is $1905 and CostCentral's price is $1865

 

I will let you know once it arrives. I was concerned about that as well. I'm pretty sure it is the Blu Ray writer becuase the manufacturers model number on their site is the same one from the other sites listing the G73JW-3DE.

When I purchased mine J&R was the cheapest I could find. I contacted them and they had very few pre orders and told me if I ordered I would get one when they released. Everything that the computer has I think it is a great price. I've been wanting to upgrade from my HP HDX 18 for a while now. I'm hoping it will get here soon.

 

Mine also got shipped out from J&R yesterday as well

Also, on the J&R website, they did not mention whether it will come with the backpack and mouse. If the backpack and mouse is not part of the deal, I wonder if the $100 saving to get from them is worth it afterall....

 

You guys didn't save. XoticPC is actually cheaper. With no Hybrid drives like on j&r, the g73jw-3de goes for $1753.64 with cash discount. It also includes bag and mouse.

 

I run the benchmark last night and my score is higher with stock driver, no overclock, high performance mode:

FFXIV Low 2905

FFXIV HI 1646

 

That could be true. Until we can confirm the version J&R sell would not come with backpack, mouse, BD Writer and Hybrid drives, J&R still has the best "Credit Card" price (especially for those who live in CA, TN, MN, NV and even NE )

 

When I spoke with J&R on the phone, I was assured that it was likely a typo on there website, and that the actual unit would have the Blu ray writer. How in the world could it not be identical to all the other models?

You guys are scaring me...

 

On J&R's website it does say it comes with the mouse. I think they have a lot of typos on there regarding the unit. My shipping weight was 21 pounds, so I think it does include everything. I will find out here shortly. I still think it was the best price considering I wanted everything that it was shipped with and they offered free shipping.

 

Did they say anything about the hybrid drives and accessories? I don't believe that J&R price is lower because they don't give you all stuff that other places offer. The factory standard is what merchants sell and if you want you can upgrade/downgrade it. Is that correct???

 

Thanks Ken, appreciate it

 

I was told that the basic configuration of the laptop was the same regardless of reseller. Which makes sense, because if you buy from XOTIC or GenTech, and you want the cheaper configuration, I believe that XOTIC does the modification to the base unit. IE, Asus ships the same basic unit to everyone. The basic unit comes with the Hybrid HDDs, Blu Ray Writer, Bag, Mouse, etc. This is my understanding of the process. If J&R is offering a model with less stuff, it would likely be an X model, per the usual Asus way of doing business. Since this is not an X model, I expect it to be identical to what Xotic is offering.

Nightman, I await your reply, because if yours didn't come with all the regular stuff, I might be returning mine when I get it...

 

I just got it a few minutes ago from UPS and I can confirm that the J&R model of the G73JW-3DE does come with the backpack and the Glasses. When I open it up I will let you know if it does have the Blu Ray Burner. I'm sure it does since it has everything else so far.

Just to let you guys know that ordered from J&R with UPS Ground, I did not have to sign for it. It comes it a bigger shipping box from J&R but I do not know if UPS would have left it or not if I wasn't home.

 

Thats Great!
How is it?
Does it come with hybrid drives?

 

Here in Canada, if UPS drivers find a location that is not visible to people walking on the sidewalk, they usually place it there and take off with no sig required (Canada Post usually just throws the box in a pile of snow).

As for your unit, grats!

 

Thanks Ken!

these scores are awesome!... can you try running it Overclocked?
Show us the best this beast can do!

 

Ken, you rock. Thank you so much for doing this as well.