*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

No, do you? And why does it even matter?

Yes, I did realize that my GPU score didn't move when I upped my CPU speed going from 2.53 to 2.93, but you're saying that a FSB overclock is the sole reason why the GPU score gets higher. My results in conjunction with the information Vicious and Quadzilla provided do NOT show this. If your claim were true, then my GPU score when pumping the FSB to 2.93ghz should be HIGHER than my run where I used multipliers to get to that frequency. Also if your "opinion" were true, then Vicious' GPU score at 2.75ghz should be higher than Quad's GPU score with a T9600 at stock speeds.

And you do realize that in two of the three runs you posted of E-wrecked's whitebook runs, the GPU was overclocked, right? And that one run with no GPU OC doesn't help your argument either because there is no run with the multipliers at 13x for that system to compare it to. At best, the GPU score for that run would be the same as my stock gpu score. This would also disagree with your assertion that FSB makes the GPU score higher.

Also, it's kinda cute how you're now trying to suggest that the FSB in my system doesn't work. If it didn't, then wouldn't by CPU score stay the same?

So you can save all that ranting about needing experience in FSB and multiplier overclocking because you haven't showed anything substantial as of yet to defend your claim. Apparently I need to score 16.3k in 3dmark06 to get through to you

 

You probably know some or all of this but I'll throw it out anyways. You lose the recovery parition doing that but in my case I dont use one anyways since it just backs up all the crap I want to be rid of anyways. Your call there. If you do go that way then you can use the first recovery disc to install, when it prompts for the next one pull the recovery and do a hard reboot. Then switch to the HD in the bios as your first startup device and it will boot up as a clean vista install. Go through the process and from there you can put the driver and utility disk in and choose only the stuff you want and let it crank away. You dont get many partitioning options with the recovery disc so you might want to stick any ol windows disc in there to do that first depending on your needs and then move to the recovery disc after the fact.

BTW, Im USMC, different war then though.

 

yes you do and since you haven't yet...then you will never get through to me. simple as that. none of your gaming or benchmarks match anything of revelaleance other than you tallking. (my personal opinion yet again)

 

When I cloned over to my vertex, the recovery partition came with it. I haven't tried a recovery with it so I don't know if the data survived, but the partition still exists. It's about 10Gb.

 

hey joe, did you flash your vertex first?
and the partition is there, but if it doesn't work you can try a few things to either make it work or at least copy the information inside of it.

 

and exactly why their results disagree with your claim

Well, even though that's not the point of the argument, you have a lot to learn about the whitebook. Catalyst 8.10 and down supports GPU overclocking via software (AMD GPU clock tool)

...and this is why I can't get through to you. You seem oblivious to the fact that a consequence of FSB pumping is a higher CPU clock speed. Btw, I like how the number changed from 2000 to 1600.

Doesn't matter because I wasn't the one showing these results. I produced results that can easily be compared to. You didn't.

see above.

No, I'm pretty sure my FSB works fine.

You are wrong. Simple as that. (Fact)

 

Yes, you can clone it but it sounded like that might not be a possibility for him.

 

i think not. fact

 

Well, I said my piece. Not going to waste anymore time on this subject just to get you more upset and angry.

On a more relevant note, has anyone attempted to push their memory past 1000mhz without touching the core speed with the reflashed GPUs on their W90s?

 

not even close.
but probably later when you get on a desktop computer and try to over clock it using a multiplier and find that you can't..you will then understand that raising the front side bus is the only way to increase system performance.

 

can someone answer my questions on post 5904 please. i need to know because i am thinking of buying it. thanks

 

Well, I tried to end it, but for whatever reason, you still want to argue on that point and make it personal. No thanks.

Don't know how the UK notebook resale chain is typically like, but if they offer anything on the W90 system other than a Q9000 or a T9600, chances are that they can upgrade the system.

A T9550 with the Turbo button should hit around 3.1 ghz, given it ups the FSB clock to the same amount

And the performance between DDR2 and DDR3 ram is negligible as of now.

 

Yes...the first thing I did was flash it. I physically installed the drive in the internal bay to do it.

Then I used Artemis to clone it. With that done, I took out the 320, put the Vertex in its place and it booted perfectly.

It has been working perfectly ever since.

 

well...how do you like it thus far?

 

Did anyone manage to install Win7 RC 7100 on W90 and have the two video cards work normally? I tried and the system device manager indicated that one of the video adapter cannot start...

 

MadHatter01 had the same problem as you did on the 7100 build, he never was able to resolve it . I didnt have any problems, so im not sure whats up .

 

Thus far, I like it a lot. I didn't do any head to head comparos with my 320 but it is way faster than my previous laptop.

It's been well worth it to me.

 

I havent flashed it yet, but that is my plan for today. Figured I needed to solve the driver issue first. BTW installed Fallout 3, damn this beast is nice. Beautiful screen, solid keyboard and HUGE!! Played for over an hour with no issues. After flashing the vertex, imaging and swapping drives I will attempt to get 9.4 drivers installed again. Thanks for the help.

 

Anyone using a notebook cooler on one of these giants? I'm curious which ones would work well considering the dimensions.

I also really haven't been following along that closely on the partition topic but I see people mentioning an extra partition on the hard drive. I was assuming this is like a utility/recovery partition that most laptop manufacturers ship their product with. I usually wipe all partitions and format any machines I buy though. Hope its nothing I really need.

I'm assuming I can still upgrade bios on the mobo and gpu's and such and do driver workarounds on a clean install. I'll page back and read more about it eventually.

I'm going to do a clean install Vista64 ultimate and I'm considering installing a win7 partition to mess with too.

 

I cant try 7100 till I get my unit back but it worked fine for me in the last version I tried.

I had to disable one card in bios to install win 7 so did quadzilla.

to me sounds like you guys maybe still have master/slave and Win7 is not starting the slave card due to the drivers/ccc not being installed or not working. Otherwise you probably would have had the same problem as us where the computer tried to start with a dual monitor config due to 2 video cards present.

All I can suggest is you install the stock Asus drivers & CCC for now and reboot to see if it fixes the issue.

All my game test in Win7 showed a loss in performance, so for gaming right now seems Vista is better, and if your not gaming you dont need both cards, so it may work out just fine if you look at it that way.

 

No cooler here as the bag is too tight of a fit and heavy enough without taking a cooler with me. I just keep some 1" thick hotel guides at my desk at work to prop it up.

The only cooler that comes to mind is the LX Cryo, but its so expensive.

Honestly since the W90 cools so well, there is almost no reason for a cooler, the only benefit I lost not having a cooler was the tilt, so I would just recommend something to tilt with if your like me and need one.

 

29 Stumps

I spent more years there than anywhere else. I remember that place like it was yesterday.

Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, 7th marines, the hospital, the movie theater, the little game/pool hall.

And absolutely no human life outside of the base for miles, except the "desert rats"

my weekend liberty was always in Phoenix, me and 2 or 3 guys would carpool out there since a fellow marines family lived out that way. We would go party hard and try to make it back before liberty was over.

did a trip to lake havisu one year too.

I cant go back in even if I want to btw, I am RE3 from a knee injury that cant be fixed. I have trouble even standing for more than 20 min at a time and definitely cant run anymore. Even if my body was able to hold up I have 4 kids now and a wife that wouldnt make it with me in the service.

 

Mine came with 5 partitions. The not so well hidden recovery partition and then two partitions on each drive. Me no like. You wont have any problem with losing the recovery partition, everything is on the utility and driver disk including the stuff you dont want but you can install piecemeal.

 

know the feeling man 2 knee surgreys n im only 18 lol thanks both of ya'll for serveing

only thing i have to say is i was in ROTC ......

 

thanks! 3.1ghz! wow! this huge overclock! by the way do i lose warranty if i use turbo button?

 

lol no, otherwise it wouldnt be there as a factory software/hardware feature.

though you just put a great picture in my head.

Like one of those missle fire buttons that you have to lift the plastic cover first, then toggle the switch.

but it would be a laptop and on the plastic cover it says "Warning Warranty Void if lifted" and there is this button under it to enable turbo mode

This is similar to one of the images I ideas I had for the NBR group (nars bench runners not notebookreview)

Where a bunch of guys are about to run through the finish line ribbon/tape at the end of the race, but they would all be wearing NBR shirts and instead of "finish" the tape would say "warranty void if seal is broken"

I never got around to making that image though.

I have a bunch of great images pending till my W90 gets back

 

I have flashed the master bios. There happened no problems during the Win7 7100 setup with both card enabled. The system automatically installed WDDM 1.1 drivers for both card. But the previous slave card cannot start to work(with a exclamatory mark). Then I tried 9.4 drivers for WIN7. It also succeeded to be installed. But the slave card still failed to start. Later, I tried flashing back the bios and the problem remained. Finally, I had to restore the stock system, having wasted several hours...

PS: I've tried to install stock intel chipest driver, not work.

I think I will not try to install Win7 7100 again till Vicious manages to handle it.

 

I didnt do anything special, but I will try 7100 for sure, the version I installed was 7068.

 

I only went there for a desfire-ex when I was at Pendleton and remember it like it was yesterday. Went to Phoenix on a 96 a couple times. We would have our stuff loaded in a car and hop in as soon as evening formation was dismissed. You would get office hours back then if you wore a uniform off base and it was a good idea not to anyways since people would throw stuff at you/scream at you and so on so we would shuck em on the road. Neatly folding them of course because you were going to have to put em on on the way back for morning formation... It would kill me to do 4 days like that now. lol

 

Thanks for the reply about the partitions. I'll definitely be wiping the hdd completely and doing a clean install. I was considering doing a win7 partition (along with a main parition with a clean vista64 ultimate install) when I buy it but now I think I might wait on win7 for awhile. I could always reclaim some space for another partition later.

Has anyone seen a few of the bad reviews on 'egg' ? I'm just wondering about those. A few seem to indicate a hard time getting a hold of asus support or getting the support/rma once they do. One guy even claims that he was shipped a used one twice. I take newgg reviews with a grain of salt though, especially when there is only a handful of reviews to sample from. I am just wondering if anyone has comments about those reviews however.

 

Not much point in the egg now since it is a quad core game all around and their price is now similar to the little guys but you lose the blue-ray and second drive.

 

Thanks.. yes I was considering ordering from elsewhere but I still was wondering what people thought about those not so glowing reviews I mentioned.

--- edit: Having a hard time finding an X2 on other vendor sites. Just finding out of stock A1's. I guess if some A1's have quad its the same deal but with bluray though. I'll read up more from provntge etc.

 

I tried master/master and master/slave. I did not have to disable one card in the bios to install. I was also using stock master bios and not the mod oc bios. What build of windows 7 were you using Quadzilla? bbq12344321 i fill your pain after 10 hours of doing the same stuff you tried. Nothing worked! That damn 2nd card wont start.

 

Quad,
I hope you get your financial problems resolved. I would hate to see you go.
You have been such a great help on this forum, always there to help.

 

This is my :cough: "desktop replacement" currently. I wonder if I could swap the cpu with the "notebook". I might even sell the sff pc sometime after I get settled in with the W90vp.

http://www.3dalchemist.com/hardware-info/elvn-sffbuildpics_3-08.htm

 

Well I have tried everything I can think of, called Asus and tried some stuff. My screen is just going blank, sometime white, sometimes black and this last time it was yellow with white stripes. Played Fallout 3 for 2 hours last night everything maxed and it was fine. This last time I was just chatting on IM, nothing else and it went blank. Maybe it is a hardware issue . . . anyone have any ideas? Just hate the idea of sending it in from all the way over here . . .

 

hey guys,
i should be getting my w90-a1 within' the next week or two; i was wondering what are the "must do things" when i get this laptop? if any...?

 

I had my display crash 2 or 3 times during my period of owning it, strange enough all times it happened was in normal windows environment like you just said, not in a game or something demanding.

 

follow viciousUSMC limit breakers guide

search for it in my sig

 

Well all Asus will tell me is to RMA, dammit, wont see one again for a month . . .

 

Hey Striker

Any word on Ken's W90 shipment. Is it still supposed to be in Mon or Tue.
I can't wait!

 

Anyone got any word on Xotic's shipment? im tired of getting mxed word from them.

 

Most of the time there only relaying what they have been told by Asus or whoever . So one day its We will have them on such and such a day, then 3 days later they get another email or what ever and that date changes again.

 

That's one of the great things about Asus notebooks, and plus it allows you to overclock any CPU unlike doing it via multipliers, which is restricted to extreme chips.

Calm down. Last time I checked, he doesn't own/have in his immediate possession a W90, else I'm sure he would have posted benchmarks by now. It helps to know what you are talking about first before attacking me on such a small issue.

Quick question, after you flashed your 2nd card to a Master, did you notice any extra display options in CCC? I noticed that when I did it to my system and that caused some programs to crash unless I disabled one of the monitors.

 

Ya we had an extra monitor show up in the display properties when flashing the slave to master . I never had to disable the second monitor though which i think others had to because my second monitor was never really there or enabled.

 

UGH it REALLY IS "all just speculation"


THANKS QUAD!!!

LOL sry i just like to attack... plz forgive

 

I see. I think it's probably why they went with the master-slave setup because it seems two master VGA cards would have their own display bridges.

 

ok that one just threw me for a loop why cant 2 cards be master

what does it mean to be slaved and do you have to activate the other card everytime you play a game?

 

two masters is fine, just like it is in a desktop, for what ever reason and it could just be how the drivers are setup it added a fake 2nd display. I never had ot turn it off for anything and never noticed it until I installed windows 7. There was a bug in the version I installed with multiple monitors.