*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

its the primary and link adapter. did i do something wrong?

 

also it aint letting me install the drivers using the disk method

 

Ouch ,after flashing the salve card to master, I dissambled the vedio cards, put them in again and the got rid of the texture errors when running 3dmark vantage, but the flikerring at loading interfaces still exist. Moreover ,3dmark vantage score dropped from 9300+ to 8900+. Anyone could explain those phenomenona?

 

if it is like that and they keep the total price of w90 + qx9300 as i have seen then they make a whole profit from the qx9000...

 

Thats the main reason I bought with the 9000 and not the 9300, if I am paying for the 9000 and then also the 9300, I should get both, not just the 9300 and them keep the 9000.

 

Yes I know it doesn't quite sound fair but like I said they have to cover the warranty. If there a problem they can't resolve or a major recall from Asus they would have to buy a replacement 9000 to put in the system they send back to Asus

 

i want one too. i cant wait for the price to drop.

 

Me too it is a much better chip!

 

A thousand dollars iw way too much for a chip that will be replaced with a better one in a year or so.

 

agreed it is EPIC WIN in the power department

 

OOPS!!! above post goes with this quote LOL!!!

and 1k will drop and the new one will cost more... and WILL IT BE COMPATABLE. right now this is the only high power one i see that is

 

Its not that it doesnt "quite sound fair", its that you pay for the 9000 in the origionand AND pay for a 9300, but you only GET a 9300...they are in effect keeping a processor you paid for. In all honesty, what SHOULD happen is either you get sent the 9000 OR they reduce the price of the system by the ammount of the 9000 and they keep it.

If I wanted my 9000 sent to me, could I just ask for it and have it mailed to me ? I tend to think not.

 

1. Order your W90 with a Q9000.
2. Order a seperate QX9300.
3. Put the QX9300 in yourself.
4. Store the Q9000 in a safe place.
5. If your W90 goes down put the Q9000 back in.
6. Store the QX9300 in a safe place.
7. When you get the W90 back repeat steps 3-6.


Easy enough?

 

There is a warranty tamper sticker on one of the screws on the cpu heat sink. If you take it off the sticker will rip.

 

true, but if you buy a x9300 on ebay and sold the x9000 on ebay for like $200, it would only cost around 400-500 dollars for the x9300...

i don't remember who it was, but when i was debating getting the 9300 they told me that 1k is well spent towards the next laptop i buy - they were right; i would rather save the 1k, or $400 for the next laptop i buy, rather than on a part of a laptop that will be standard within' the next year, or experience a drastic price drop.

plus, the q9000 can be overclocked to 2.6-2.7ghz with fsb, right? that puts me right around the range of the 9300 and basically allows me to play any game i want to on the market.


striker - thanks for the info of the tv tuner, i am going to contact ken and see if he can install one... can you reccomend a good hybrid tv tuner?

 

In games, (or anything that is graphics intensive), the gpu will always make more difference than the cpu...especially the more demanding the graphics are.

 

Just depends on the game, if you have fast graphics cards you need more cpu power to keep up, and some games eat away at your cpu cycles with AI & Phisics and before you know it your system is on the ground begging for mercy because it has no cpu power left to feed the gpu's.

This is the case with games like FSX, Supreme Commander, and it looks like even GTA4 is a very cpu dependent game.

All 3 of those games support and recommend quad core though, this is one of the reasons I would highly recommend the slower quad vs the faster dual even if gaming is your goal.

 

not really MSTS "microsoft train simulator" is heavily dependent on CPU power.

 

Since I think the highest OC so far anybody here has with the QX9300 is 3.3ghz and you can get about 2.7ghz on the Q9000 I think its very hard to justify the cost of the cpu ugprade.

Though there are people that could justify it like if you use the W90 as a workstation for rendering and things, it will make a difference, gaming wise though the 2.7ghz is more than enough.

I really highly recomend agaisnt buying a qx9300 on ebay and then selling the q9000 to make up some of the cost. Because if you ever have an issue and need to send your unit in for warranty repair you would then have to go buy a q9000 again to swap back in.

So unless you willing to give away the best laptop warranty on the market, its probably worth the $150 or so you can sell a Q9000 for.

Honestly I think with some RAM hunting the Q9000 can go even higher, my 2.7ghz overclock I am most positive was only limited by my ram and not the cpu.

BTW it was me that told you about saving the money, tech moves too fast. If you ever buy leading edge like the QX9300 your paying a huge premium, when in 8 months time the new $600 cpu will be 30% faster. So holding the money gives you more worth in the end and always try to buy on deals and stick to bleeding edge instead of leading edge.

 

i wasn't reccomending ebay either, just saying it was an option (because people were talking about buying from ebay)...

but i totally agree with you 100%, and because of what you said, that is why i went with the q9000. i think you also said that 1k is basically another laptop, too.

hey xu, striker said after you updated the drivers and were to overclock the 9000 even further you experienced a doubling in fps in some games - what games were these?

 

thanks for all the help! but sorry to pester you with another question, lol - do you think a tv tuner's worth the money? especially now that most tv programs now are being on aired on video sites like hulu, veoh, and surf the channel? also, with how "easy" it is to get newly aired tv shows via the net?

 

Lol awesome .

 

lucky...

hey striker, i'm interested - what are you going to be using the w90 a1 for? and why didn't you just update your x1 (or sell it)? also, are there any advantages to the ic diamond thermal paste over the artic silver thermal paste?

i probably won't be watching tv as much as i think i would... i have a problem of thinking that i need something when i really do not. lol. i could always buy a usb tv tuner, right?

 

I think most of us have a budget for laptop purchases, more for some than others but there are few people that make the kind of money that means they simply give no mind to making multi thousand dollar purchases several times a year. Thats what your in for if you really want to keep up with the latest, greatest.

I do btw recognize that there are those who simply must have the latest greatest. Lets break these people down. There are those who are buying the best they can but they cannot always afford to have the best in everything. They simply do not have the money. Then probably the largest group are people who can afford it and buy it but their discretionary income cannot cover both the latest greatest in laptops and also all the rest of the things they would or might like to buy. Far and away the smallest group and probably not represented by anyone here are the people who have the means to buy everything they want irregardless of cost. Realistically most people don't have those means despite the prattle of forum millionaires. As long as this is true and I believe it to be so then buying smart means living better for the vast majority of people.

 

(no one in paticular and just an opinion)
the problem is... people need to be concerned about THEIR spending budget and not everyone elses. if that person can afford it, more power to that person for wanting more out of his system, instead of waiting 6 months for the prices to drop and that technology to be outdated for the high end user, but right in line for the guy or gal updating from a netbook to a decent gaming machine. keep playing the waiting game and no one will ever upgrade.....

 

Anything would be better then how they do it from the factory . They glob it on so badly its almost scary . The idea more is better is an understatement when seeing how much they apply .

 

Any day now on my computer.....

 

Dude, you are wound up way too tight. Relax... breath.... I was referring to folks in general and my post was in response not just to your post but also they entire ongoing conversation in context. It is I that should apologize, I had no specific agenda and was not singling out any particular comment of yours. I understand that your post was essentially saying different strokes for different folks all of whom have different viewpoints on the worth of a thing.

I agree that folks generally do buy what they want if within their means and thats as it should be. My point is the latest greatest at the price point for laptops is not consequence free for most buyers. Saying simply that it can be afforded does not tell the whole truth since money is finite for most people and a value judgement followed by a trade off has been made in the allocation of that finite resource. An honest assessment of what was gained cannot be made without an equally honest assessment of what was lost.

 

Yeah, also do you have premium tv at home?

If you do you may want to look into a device I have recomended a few times for playing consoles on your computer screen or recording game footage.

A HAVA, the hava is a streaming device, it streams anything you hook up to it over your network in HD quality for your local network, but it also does a lower bitrate mpeg4 stream over the internet so that you can watch anything over the internet from anywhere in the world.

This is actually the PRIME function of the HAVA even though I want one for recording and to be able to hook all my consoles to my laptop/computer.

Its called a placeshift device, it shifts the place you can watch your media.

Before you even ask I'll tell you how it works. It has an IR blaster, basically two small units that send the same signals as your cable or satellite remote to your reciever, this is how you control the stations and things from a room over on your computer or from a continent over on the internet. It even has many virtual remotes downloadable so you can have an OSD just like your original remote.

I think this may be my next device investment actually since I have seen many new units cheap on ebay, I just need to wait for the livecashback deal to be up. I have fiber optic tv service and never use it at all in my room. I'll hook my reciever up so I can watch tv while I am at work

 

@ striker, no arguments here but I think the way i have worded my advise was simply "best value for the money" not "best for you budget" meaning rich or poor my advise is what is going to give the best performance per dollar and best return on what is spent, personal budget was never a factor in anything I was talking about.

Saving $600 now for sure is going to do more for you in a year investing it in a new unit than it would getting a few extra hundred mhz out of a cpu now. But thats what I do for a living is balance and crunch numbers.

 

LOL! I'm a geek but that was the geekiest sh*t I've seen in a while. The music kinda creeped me out though.

 

I agree about not blowing a ton extra to get the better cpu, for me at least. Its always tempting to get the step up but a 9000 quad with overclocking is powerful, and as others have said any cpu dependent games that happen to support quad should still work very well and generally games are much more gpu dependent. Perhaps late in the warranty a lower priced, even ebayed 9300 would give the notebook a boost though.

I was chatting about this laptop on the internet the other day and someone said "Yeah but dude that will be obsolete with i7". That kind of mindset is b.s. in my opinion. Either people don't know the definition of obsolete or they are perhaps exaggerating / trolling. I think what would be noticeable is that the gpu would start lagging behind more significantly in some games 1.5 - 2 yrs from now , requiring graphic settings to be turned down considerably more.

Since I have a 24" widescreen 'graphics professional' crt at home, when at my main desk I could always output to that at a lower resolution, like 1680x1050, for some increased frame rates. I hate running non-native resolution on LCDs as the display quality is horrible scaled. Thats a peeve of mine on gaming benchmarks of this notebook actually, as I assume they are running non-native rez on the notebook's lcd and not an external display at that rez (or a crt which has no 'native rez'). Some people prefer a slightly lower resolution lcd on gaming notebooks rather than 1920x1200 or x1080 for this reason.

 

i7 is faster, and would be great if you do cpu dependent work like video rendering. The new Sager has one in it.

But it cost a bit more and has much less gpu power, and its a freakin brick

Core2Duo & Core2Quad pushed the envelope pretty far ahead in terms of cpu power needed for games and it was a huge leap over the past generation of cpu's. i7 is not nearly as big a leap, more like an incremental upgrade.

So yeah i7 is nice but wont make this obsolete esp not overclocked.

 

Anyone output digital off the spdif yet? I wont be able to test it till I get up north. I purchased a male 3.5 mono to rca male which should work to go to the digital coaxial in on my speaker system. Just curioius what kind of results have been seen and if a fight had to be put up to get it working. There is no internet where I go so its good to figure things out up front.

 

Striker

I loved Ken's video but i missed your wonderful fingers on the cpu's! LOL

 

Vic

That Hava box you're talking about is similar to the slingbox or is it somethig different.

 

lol i am sure i could find a asus warranty sticker around somewhere. if i rip it ill clean off the residue and put a new one on. if it works for a sony PSP im sure itll work for anything. LOL!

 

Semi similar, if you read into it as much as I did though you will find it is much better though, and also cheaper.

Slingbox almost false advertises what it can do also you have to buy addons/adapters for it to even be able to do what the stock HAVA can.

 

is there a guide how to do it on w90 with pics (service manual maybe)? i have changed the whole motherboard on my old hp but this is much different.

 

QUESTION!
If I buy a USB sound sticker, or Express card sound and disable the oiginal sound in the bios, will I be able to still hear the sound on the laptop speakers when I am not connected in the home theater? I wish yes but I have a feeling that no :S anybody knows? because I really don't like using sound built in. Plus, is there any equalizer in the built in sound? and is there any way to connect analogic sound signal at 5.1 surround to the receiver? thank you.

 

Do you think its possible to just buy and add the i7 to the w90vp a1?

 

You cant put an i7 into a W90 , totally different tech .

As for installing a CPU into the W90 its a no brainer . Just remove the acess panel on the back and yank the old Cpu out and put the new one in . Takes a total of 15 minutes if ya take it slow .

 

Yeah I checked out their website it looks like might be a nice acquisition.

Nice call

 

Quad did you have any problem with the sticker. Does the hair dryer method work or did you try something else

 

Hair dryer and a flat edge razor blade+steady hand . Its a no brainer really.

 

Quad

Did you make any decision yet on whether you're going to stay with your W90.
Hate to see you go.

 

Mugenski from the forums came all the way up from canada this morning actually and bought my machine it wasnt that i wanted to sell it but that i had to due to $$ issues . Ill still be around to help though and i know enough about the machine with the month i had it to be able to answer questions etc. I know he was very happy and got a very good deal- more so for what he would have had to pay in canada just for a stock machine.

 

AHHHHH!!!! THIS PLACE IS INSANE!!!!!


sooo many people sooomany questions!!!

QUAD!!! IM GOING COOCOO!!!

 

That's to bad. You've been a waltg of knowledge.
Maybe in the future you may be able to get another like striker did. With this economy the way it is I've some friends who had to make some tough decisions also. Hang in there!