*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

yeah i am stick between the w90 and mines. the new sager will be out of my range and the np9262 is also out of the question.

 

i seen that one, and that guy lives about 10 minutes from me...i hovered over the buy button for a bit, but in the end....i was like......i rather run my i7 desktop first..

 

Oh its a q9000 I thought it came with a QX9300 for that price, thats what had me jumping up the wall

 

Well, you have to have a compelling reason to want to get something else. If you're happy with your Whitebook, no need to jump ship.

Me?

World of Warcraft (in particular Raiding and Arena)
Noise Level (Not me so much, but the family and it was loud while watching TV)

Also, I was getting real close to swapping out the WUXGA+ for the 1440x900 because 1920x1200 @ 17 was pressing my boundaries (which also lowered the D900F due to it only offering one resolution along with the 130W of sun fury from the i7 and single GT280M).

Then again, I've gotten rid of laptops because the keyboard(s) were atrocious before. I'm finicky. I so wish the HDX9000 had a better GPU. That thing was PERFECT imho.

To me, the W90Vp (and the M98) are the sequels to AW's M-ALX sans 3-4 extra pounds.

 

LOL, yeah, if I got it for $1900 with all that AND a QX9300 OEM?! I'm sure Megan Fox would hand deliver it to me in that pipe dream.

 

Yeah i must have read wrong since it was your whitebook that had the cpu, but its the mobile version right? you can just put it in the W90 when the time comes.

That faster cpu and paired with some gpu overclock may help your WoW game out when it got down to low didgits.

I remember wow used to run maxed out on just medium systems, what ever they have done to that game recently really killed it for a lot of people.

I d/led it and played just a bit the other day and it looks the same to me as it always did.

 

Yeah, I'm really contemplating an i7 (d0 stepping) desktop and add another GTX280 eVGA card. The 280's are powerful, but even they can feel the pinch of 2560x1600 with eye candy on.

Right now, I'm running a Q9550 @ ~3.5ghz. It's getting the job done......


.......for now.

And unless you want a 18.4" screen, your 9262 is just as beastly. It would be, imho, a side grade versus an upgrade.

 

Yeah, I already played CPU musical chairs:

QX9300 OEM from Whitebook -> W90Vp already
Q9000 from W90Vp -> My daughter's MSI 1722
T9400 from MSI 1722 -> Whitebook

I did some Arenas earlier and the performance was MUCH better with the W90Vp. Going to do 25 man Sapphiron (well, entire Naxx) this Saturday on my Hunter, so I'll really get an idea, but so far, better performance in Dalaran and Arenas which were two major frame rate killers on the Whitebook, and that was with stock ASUS drivers.

 

Old WoW runs fine. It is the new Xpac and engine upgrade that is taking systems to task. I can run around in the original WoW and even the first Xpac no problems.

It is when you step into Northrend that it gets much better looking and slower.....

 

oh its area dependent?

When I played often I was up to the outworld areas,

when I got on the other day I managed to find the sunwell but have not gone further than that. Im lost with all the new areas & levels & equipment.

 

running the same as you
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formula maximus SE
1066 ram running at 1133
ocz vertex 120gb
samsung 1tb
single gtx280, looking for a second one i think. for my new i7 setup...(sli)

yeah, my sager is still near the top of the list
my 10 day trial (wow) wont give me anything like what your going through right? for comparison purposes. or can you find us a spot in the game for that?

 

For my desktop:

Apple 30" display
eVGA GTX280
Q9550 @ 3.5
6GB
Raptor 300GB
External 1TB
SB Audigy 4
Klipsch 5.1


Original WoW
The Burning Crusade (Xpac 1)
Wrath of the Lich King (Xpax 2)

They did some mild graphics updates with Xpac 1, but they didn't upgrade the engine.

For WotLK they upgrade the engine and the graphics, but only for Northrend (the new continent for WotLK).

Some areas are more forgiving than others, but places like Sholazar Basin and Icecrown with max distance on can work you out. Dalaran can drag you down fast as can some raids. I mean, the new Xpac is very, very nice looking but I went into it expecting the same performance as TBC at worst.

I've been playing WoW since December 2004. back then with the original, I ran it on a Nvidia 6800GTX no problems on a 30" Screen. When I upgraded to a 7800GTX, I was like, "I'm set!"

Silly me.

 

My old pc was a 7800gtx, that card did not last too long. It was expensive too.

My new desktop has 2x 4850 and it was cheaper for two 4850's than the single 7800GTX was and they have held there own for over a year and still can max out pretty much any game.

Built over a year ago

37" 1920x1080 Westinghouse LVM-37W3
Q6600 @ 3.6ghz
4gb DDR2 @ DDR914
2x ATI 4850 in CrossfireX
Xfi-Xtreme Music
2x 640gb WD internal
1x 1TB WD, 1x 400gb WD external
PC P&C 750W

Was thinking of getting the 300gb Velociraptor to speed things up as my primary drive, but figured I may as well wait for SSD to get cheaper and go straight to that.

This system has to last me atleast 1 more year, probably 2 or I will be spending faster than I can pay off my credit cards However this was the most cost effective build ever, it was just over $1000 and it blew away my $1500 7800GTX system.

i7 is nice but not worth me having to replace my mobo/ram/cpu for a small boost in performance, its best off to wait for the next thing that tops the i7 for a upgrade more substantial and for DDR3 prices to drop lower.

 

lol ... i play but im not a 25 man raider i just go walk around stareing at the ground ....

 

thats actually kinda why I downloaded the game the other day, I just felt like taking a stroll through ashenvale to look at the scenery, while from a pure graphics standpoint wow is not high up on the scale they did a great job with the design & terran.

Ashenvale is so peaceful when it rains, I can go fishing and kill any alliance that come near me

 

eletrosoft. i think i will stay with my whitebook. i just thought about it and i would have to sell my notebook and who knows how much i will get for it and how long. plus i would have then buy a new quad. or sell my notebook and save and then get the w90. then sell the cpu (or keep it for warrenty.) that's to much hassle. but thank you alot for your advice.

 

don I'm right there with you i spent all i had

id be lucky to get 1700 and if i got that i would be liek WHOA

i have thought about getting a sager 15 inch with a 260 for the prtability

i love this thing and its awsome but i do need better battary life

thought about that dell.... since i dont need a quad but that has worse battary lol

 

yeah it took me a while

i don't know how much i will get for mines. axman is selling his with my exact specs and except he has a 128ssd. for only 2100. and still no one. so maybe 2000?????

no your crossfire will kill that sager. i don't really need battery life because i am always near a wall. and if i am not. i have my treo 800w.

 

i know it will kill the sager but i want a smaller laptop ... coarse i may get a net book but its werid because im so big ....6'6 on a little 9 inch laptop and that keyboard just doesn't work ( i broke to many fingers in football)

you'll get 1800 prolly 1900

i may be able to get 1700 because mine is AW and cistom

 

you guys aint killed my sager yet...lol
kind of why i haven't got rid of it yet.

 

quit your whineing

i dont have a quad n 4870's yet


but seriously i just wish i could sell it for 2000 and try agin

 

thanks for your answers regarding the sound. just one question more. have you set the output sound settings to 5.1 when you play music?

as for the headphones i have sennheiser ones. one of the best if not the best for me.

 

Yes I have run the output setting at 5.1 with music, i prefer it actually as it is louder. As for the rattle or whatever, there is a tinny sound that eminates from the speakers at certain frequencies in music, annoying sometimes, but the sound is loud and good considering it is a laptop. The center is a bit louder than the rest in 5.1 mode so it brings the soundstage to the front of the laptop and helps with the overall surround effect. The speakers are good enough for music, movies and games as long as you are expecting audiophile quality or something special.

 

Those of you luck ones with the 4 gig memory sticks, do you notice any more heat compared to the 2 gig memory sticks? Thanks..

 

One interesting note about the sound. On my old laptop when you plugged in your headphones it switched from 5.1 to stereo by itself and back to 5.1 when you unplugged. This one stays wherever you set it so if you dont remember to switch to stereo when you are going to put on your headphones in some games when you are talking to an npc you get no voice at all because it is being sent to the center speaker and you only have front left and right on your headphones. Now I am getting pretty good at remembering to switch to stereo before I don the headphones and back again when I take them off.

 

so you control it each time from the sound program right? its realtek?

 

Yeah, I'm seriously contemplating stepping down in a way to a 42" 1080P LCD. I figure 1920x1080 will give my single 280 some extra oomph and I can mount the screen on the wall and have my computer table totally clear and be uber immersed.

 

Good call. I am a firm believer that software dictates the hardware. I don't upgrade just to upgrade. There has to be a compelling reason to want to shell out extra $$$ and take a variable loss on your current gear. For me, the reasons were there as listed before and that coupled with a great price was why I jumped.

The Whitebook/M17 is *very* capable, and I think I posted elsewhere that the fact it is Xfire means the only real upgrade(s) to it are the likes of the W90's, 9262's and the M98 if gaming is a priority. It is still in rarefied air in regards to gaming and I love the fact it is one of the only, if not only, laptop that truly allows BIOS overclocking via multipliers for Extreme chips. That means no matter what OS you toss on it, it will take full advantage of your overclocks.

 

you mean whitebook...the alienware bios is locked down if im not mistaken....

 

its locked via BIOS but Vbios OC's and sefsb r still good

 

Yes my 37" is like 2.5 or 3' away from me and its very immersive, it puts you in the game and is obviously great for movies, photoshop, and even web browsing.

Its to this day the best computer purchase I ever made, my old P4 system with a 5700 Geforce felt like a better bigger upgrade when I hooked this up to it than it did when I upgraded the computer to 10x faster.

I do also want to do a 3x monitor setup one day, not as big but since its tilted and has a wider FOV (most games require a hack) it can be very immersive too, but you need a killer rig for it as it uses like 5000x1200 ish resolution and you gotta come up with the money for the matrox and the monitors in addition to that.

My ultimate setup when the kids are older so I can save money will be 3xMonitors with a Matrox (19 up to 24 inch have not picked size out yet) and then a nice 1080p HD projector to project on the wall above them.

The 3x monitors will be for photoshop and web and games that support ultra wide FOV, the HD projector will be for movies and games that do not support the increased FOV or multiple monitors. I will build a high quality projection screen on the wall and probably make it about 60" in size. A good HD projector is just as good as a LCD IMO but you need a good screen too, and best in lower light. You also probably dont want it as your all the time monitor due to heat and bulbs burning out. So having a hybrid setup like I plan to do would work well.

Then when I become a HD projector addict, I will get 2 more and replace my 3x monitor setup with 3x HD projectors, build a 3 wall setup in the corner of the room like this \__/ and project all 3 screens at about 140" and have the OMG ultimate surround gaming setup, you would have to turn your head left and right to look around in world of warcraft

 

most i had was 4 monitors

4 seperate graphic cards lol

its amazing and i wish i could power each card in my laptop to a diff monitor

 

tis is true...but he was referring to multiplier over clocking as well...and that seems to be only done through the bios....on the whitebook based models

 

It sounds like you either have direct evidence or even physical evidence on a pre-order 5/20 W90. Is it safe to say that is in fact what is written between those lines? Throw us a bone here, bro!

 

A page or so back you guys were discussing WoW. How well do you think the Stock A1 would play WoW in 25man as compared to NP9280 that is comming out?

I am torn on which one to buy... I am leaning more the the Asus but I would like to get it with the QX9300 just not sure I want to spend the cash to do it with the NP9280 sitting out there...and if the 280M will perform similar to the 4870s on the Asus.. so torn....

 

NP92890 starting price $2,242.00 no OS, 3gb ram, 2x 250gb hdd

customized with OS and good specs (2x 320gb HDD, 6Gb ram) $2679.00

-no mouse
-standard black bag

ASUS W90VP starting price $2,419.00 W/OS, 6gb ram, 2x 320gb Hdd, Bluray.

customized with thermal paste $2,474.00

-ASUS Backpack
-Copperhead Mouse

Asus is the way to go

 

hummm, that's if you don't have all your own parts including licensed os. and no fear of breaking your warranty by adding or upgrading parts.

sure, for a ready made system...the way to go, but for the enthusiast with hooks and connections..barebones system is the better bet by far. and you can have them or a licensed shop put it together if your not skilled and still be under your warranty.

when you start buying high end..your not limited to the "what you have to buy" category. you can make your own moves and save quite a few 100 dollars off the price. for a far "superior bang for the buck" theory. so in theory... that w90 is over priced if you had all the parts already...
barebones...the best way to go... (personal opinion)

just look at striker...see how much happier he is.

 

The 9280 is not bare bone though, other than the OS you have to pick everything, you can cut one HDD out and the OS and thats about it.

After that your stuck with the trouble of buying lower parts, hunting down faster parts for cheaper and then probably paying more as you had to buy 2 parts or trying to sell the cheaper parts you got and you need them on hand probably to send back under warrenty.

 

rjtech has it as a barebones...
and i have connections so i can get just about anything i want. and since i have all the parts. i would only need the chassis and vga card. i7 i can get as well or quads.
yeah, i don't do much selling of old or removed parts. because when i get the next system..those can be transplanted if need be. or put in to the original system for sale.

that would be more for the retail customer vicious..i dont' do retail all the time....


besides. the d900f is workstation rig and can game if need be. (my opinion on it)
now the m980nu is something different..... im gonna have wait till the real price is posted and not everyones speculations on it....they have had time to either get with the program or go over board..time will tell...

 

Well then your special I mean for me and everybody else

I was basing this off of Xotics page as that is who I would go to for a Sager.

I did check out rjtech but its almost $1800 for the barebones! So to match the Asus you need to pick up 2x 320gb HDDS, 6gb of ram, A CPU, A Blueray Player, for under $600 and it still wont be as fast in gaming and look like a brick

On that note though tracking my deals, the 120GB Vertex is back in stock at ecost for $307 AR.

I have no money, but I hope maybe you guys can get one and enjoy it on my behalf:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=380637

 

I bow to thee... *bows*

 

im knowing vicious and we are on the same side with this all!..
i just like to view the picture from all sides and show that one doesn't have to spend money they dont have, but can still have a decent system. (per striker) with a warranty that's in tact.

 

sorry i was reading a few pages back and the whitebook overclocks in the bios and settings are lock no matter what as long as you are stable. ocz claim that they were going to improvent the bios and almost have it like a desktop where you change the ram settings and alot more but they bailed out. this is the first company that has went from zero to hero and bailed out when the world is in hard times. there is no coming back for them now. even if they came out with an unstoppable notebook (which the whitebook was suppose to be) no one will ever by it cause they might do it again.

no if they still provided bios updates and driver updates then that would be a different story as we will still see that they are taking care of there customers. i love my notebook and my reseller but ocz will not be another choice in the future for me.

i know that will still cover warrenty and tech support but there are bugs and hardware issues that has been out and they haven't said nothing about it. i am sure over hundreds has called and (before we resolved the issue our selves) everytime they acted like they never heard such a thing.

just my 2 cents.

 

Yeah im not taking a side or trying to debate with you just saying it like I see it.

It wouldnt be that bad if the 9280 didnt take DDR3 ram, that stuff cost quite a bit more.

Get 4gb of DDR2 ram for it (if it took DDR2) a Single 500gb drive isntead of the 2x 320gb drives, a nice i7 lower model and overclock it, and forget the blueray player and you could come out cheaper than Asus and have a good system.

You would still have much to trade out though, looks that you cant change, the great Asus warranty, the mouse, and the gpu power.

If your a gamer, even with the money savings I dont think it would be worth it, as your going to want/need that gpu power at some point. If your looking for a cpu based laptop for encoding though and just want to game sometimes, it may be worth the $200 you can save.

 

Hahahaha, you look like a simian line person, Its your very detailed question right there. Thats hard to believe 20k.

 

me personally..will never classify the d900f as a gaming machine. it's a workstation machine that can game. dual video card machines are built for high end gaming. and there seem to be like 6 or 7 of those types of machines.
the d900f goes up against machines like the 5797/gt725...single card machines...sure...it's over kill and a bit more costly till they upgrade to that 1000 dollar cpu or ebay a 500 oem one..lol. but encoding sorry...can't be waiting 2 hours on a project that should take 22 minutes with a quad core 3.0 ghz or 11 minutes with an i7(speculation on the i7 since i don't have one...yet)..... that's if your business minded..... but then they are far lighter and last longer on battery than a big d900f! major plus for the frequent traveler...

 

Added a Intel 80GB X25-M SSD, ended up canceling the Vertex.
Copied WoW to the drive and there was a very noticeable change in all of the loading times. I've not made any of the recommended tweaks yet, will have to get to that tonight.

Did a quick performance test with the following result

 

Same, and they do have a dual GTX280 SLI machine comming out to do just that, no i7 though supposed to be mobile quad just like the W90, could compete if the price is right.

 

still. as an over all machine, that w90 really can't be beat at the moment. has everything the hard core gamer wants.

 

it has very good read speed but beware of the write speed in comparison to vertex. for me vertex has the best ratio of write/speed and price


http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...sk=view&id=186&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=8

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...k=view&id=186&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=10

except being in stock. for the time being