*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

they say the ones before 1.42 and lower work with mobile cpus...not sure if that got fixed in the 1.5 versions and higher....

 

really. i can boot at 3.33ghz but prime blue screens. 3.5ghz boots but bluescreens before i log in. these are multipliers. i tried setfsb but 3.25 is as far as i can get.

 

I was questioning along the lines of Vicious's thought...... that both the bios and TurboGear have limiting parameters, based on what is factored by the cpu VID. This is why I was curious if code within TurboGear might yield some clues...... since nothing was found by biosmods.com. What do ya think? I am just throwing this out there..... cause we gotta crack this nut!

Both you and John have made some good points here, which have me completely re-thinking the W90Vp. Initially it was thought the W90Vp was made for the QX9300...... and now I am not so sure. Again, as I posted earlier, it is funny how ASUS is promoting the new G71Gx with the QX9300, 12GB ram, etc..... yet future QX9300 support is unclear for the W90Vp..... and we had to test out 12GB ram here.

THIS IS GARBAGE ASUS! THIS WHOLE W90VP EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN CRAP!

 

I looked at the specs of the G71g but all i saw was a single 260mGTX ? no dual card choices.

I still think that its "Possible" asus has not posted or done much of anything to the W90 section of drivers because of all the issues they have had and these new machines might bring some of these long awaited fixes. Hopefully this is the case as i cant see what the heck else would take this many months to get sorted.

 

i just looked at my voltage and i never go above 1.13

even overclocking to 3.08 ghz it never changes

is that what you had on your OCZ bios Don?

 

i think i miss something here. why are you trying to increase the voltage, even though you managed 3.2ghz on qx9300? better stability or something?

as for the g71 its beautiful but not so powerful. why? two cards with 1gb total memory perform better than one card of the same memory. i think you have already seen that on games performance. we are still waiting to see. even more if we are speaking about 4870s which support dx10.1 which gtx260 doesnt if i remember good.

except this due to recent experiences from mobile nvidia gpus i would think it many times if i would buy a notebook with nvidia mobile on it again. i dont care if its gtx260 or 290 or anything. and i guess these are burning even more.

 

Higher Voltage=Higher clocks+Stability

 

ok for stability. but better clocks? more than 3.2ghz? i think you are trying to burn it but its good for you who want to test it and tell us results..

as for the bios i have no idea even how to modify it but everything that locks (asus) can be unlocked. it maybe just needs time and someone really wanting to spend time on it.

you have the best and trying to make it better.this is a primitive characteristic of humans anyway.

i really hope our machines will have not these issues as you said. and yes i cant find an other reason for these delays except from the customs or licence needed to transfer them from taiwan to america.

 

i just received the ocz vertex. essentials are coming. w90 doesnt..

http://f.imagehost.org/view/0746/27052009016

i cant find any jumper for firmware upgrade...! where to find one?

 

If you had the right conditions a Qx9300 could go up to 4.0ghz or even higher so the 3.2 ghz is nothing , also the Cooling system on the W90 is second to none so burning up anything wont happen period and this is without some notebook cooler etc ,the machine is very well designed for cooling and each card along with the CPU has there own fan which makes a big difference.

 

You know, I was poking into a thread on the forum last night (trying to between the 2 million 404 errors) about undervolting the cpu via pin modding.

One would think if they can do it to reduce voltage, that maybe we can do it to increase voltage....

 

If it going to be hardware modifying then just leave it.

 

i took a screen shot.

don't say that i'm looking forward to a w90. i want to ask gentech some questions about it. with the qx9300. how stable they have it.

i looked at it also. i can't go back to single gpu solutions. crossfire has work wonders for my. my have a mid range card not even stocking up to a 9800m gs (9800m gt bios flashed)and then then crossfired(stocked) kills a 280m(overclocked) and is now in the top 5 in mobile gpu charts. there's no way i can go to a single card.

when i had my t9400. i don't remember the voltages i had on it. but as for my qx9300 i took a screen shot and i will explain about it in a little bit.

why not go over 3.2ghz. entuhest(i know i spelt that wrong) will try there best to pass any limits. as for many with more experinced more then me, they have gotten 3.4ghz stable. and 3.5ghz stable. so i was trying.


i will research some more about that new laptop asus released.

and the 4870's that you have looks promising.

will decribe in the picture below.

i can't do it sorry. if my machnine wasn't for sale and i had instuctions i would of done it.

BUT
As most know i am selling my system so i only can gather infomation on it i can do what i use to on it. but this is what i got with both programs. as you can see it is reading two different voltages. i tried to use cpu genie to overvolt but it didn't work so i can stuck at 1.200 or 1.313v

 

If you had a few machines laying around along with a dozen Qx9300s to burn up in the process i would be willing to try it , but since none of us do you would have to have some seriously large marbles to try something like that .

 

Lol. i can't comment if i dont but i dont have that many qx9300 so i can't test it on a for sale item.

 

It could very well be possible as people have done it to Desktop CPUs but on a mobile CPU along with the Cost its just to risky , unless your insane, rich or both .

 

i thought there was a way to increase voltage via pin mod?

http://laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=35

 

Well give it a shot and let us know how it go's . Make sure someone is standing by with a video camera though so when then 3 foot blue arc of electricity shoots out of your machine you have something for Youtube .

Those were Pentium M's fyi and things have changed , though it might still be possible .

 

lol thanks for the vote

things may have changed i was just posting it had been done with CPU's i have never done a pin mod and i can't afford to do one

 

Well there were several people that did a pin mode for voltage reduction... first try and if they can do it, we can do it!

 

"What we do know for certain is the G71gx will come with Nvidia's newest mobile GPU, the GTX 260M. Supposedly, the 1 GB GTX 260M will offer 50 percent more performance over the 9800M series without using any additional power. Plus, it can be configured for SLI and Hybrid SLI, although the G71gx will initially offer just one of the GPUs. As for RAM and storage, the G71gx can handle up to 12 GB of DDR2 memory over three memory slots and can be configured with up to 1 TB of storage (two 500 GB drives)."


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Asus-G71GX-Gaming-Laptop,7217.html

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Asus-W90Vp-A1-18-4-Quad-Core-Notebook-2-0Ghz-6G-640G_W0QQitemZ260417151844QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops_Nov05?hash=item3ca2126364&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

RedBarn us actually one of ASUS's registered resellers. Jon Has these in stock. feel free to contact him [email protected]

 

To anyone who might be interested, news posted on notebookjournal.de
state that the w90vp is officially discontinued.
This news come from ASUS.
Just in case people are still hoping for new ones or even updates to existing
ones.

 

can i see a link. i wanted to get one next week.

 

Here is the article translated . The article mentions though at the bottom that they wont make machines with a value beyond 2000 euros ? so does that mean just for the European market or Worldwide?.

http://209.85.225.132/translate_c?h...le.com&usg=ALkJrhjagj81gPRUdXSWxaOAgdoM1sVFcg

 

This info is not posted on the global site, nor was it mentioned when I called Asus global... Im calling bluff here.

I still think they meant the C2D variant. (ie: X1)

 

We'll I ordered my W90 3 months ago and today I received a call that it will now finally be delverably June 9th.:yes: I'll try to be a bit more patient

However I'm seriously re-thinking wether not to go for the G71gx but if Asus is having the same difiiculties as for the W90 it might be until September this machine is available in Europe....

Is there anything known about releasedates for the G71gx already or did they just announce the machine.

 

Why would you decide for the slower machine with 1 GPU? Even if the W90VP does get discontinued, its still a far better system than whats out now, and at a price that cant be beat. The only upside to the G71GX is the memory, which is still DDR2 and half of it you probably wont even use, and the NVIDIA driver support... which is just as buggy as ATI drivers, which is why they have so many new releases... (but at least they stay on top of the issues.) JMO

 

So this is the reason not the problems or support or anything. even if it is for Europe i already ordered from America. hehe

 

The chosen product strategy does not allow expensive laptops beyond the 2000 Euro.

so, if this statement is true this does include the a1, or any asus laptop for over the price of 2000 euro.

 

i agree in everything. this is common sense. you forgot to mention the overheating problems of nvidias. and as i saw the g17x and the areas of getting air it will surely do.

 

Well seeing that Firingsquad first reported they were not making the W90 anymore and now this , its all abit suspect to me . Asus needs to make some sort of Official Statement(which they probably wont and just let it die if this is true) instead of letting small news outlets hand out this info to the public to figure out .

 

I agree that if the machine has 2 slots then it would/should support SLI but here is where it gets confusing , why would you ship a machine that supports SLI IE has 2 slots yet for the initial sales your only selling it with one card ? that makes 0 sense to me . Also when it comes to Asus products everything i have read to date says Good luck trying to order a card for the machine at all as they dont operate that way like say Clevo does. So basically if you buy the machine with only a single card then want to later down the road add in another card your SOL .

 

why you dont put the sli gtx260 on w90? it not possible?

 

The German article stated:

"This information reached the notebook journal editors on the Asus product event in Hamburg."


Sounds officially 'leaked'........

 

Nope the chipset does not support SLI just crossfire .

 

this is the same thing clevo is getting ready to pull or got smart and decided against it.... the initial system (m980nu)was set to release with only one card... which would be pretty ridiculous to say the least...even the test machines so far only have 1 card...(speculation of course)....

well, make that 2 cards instead of 3...one gtx280m and the onboard video card 9400m

 

so a possible future upgrade with 5870 crossfire is possible?

 

I doubt you will ever be able to upgrade the cards in the machine , so if your buying it with the hope you may be able to , ill tell ya now DONT .

 

no i dont buy it for this reason. thats why i buy crossfire 4870s.

 

no i dont hope to do this.just thinking. thats why i selected 4870s crossfire. because they rock.

 

Yeah the 4870s do rock it was just more of a Warning that dont get your hopes up on the ability to upgrade because its a rare thing in notebooks and would be even more rare when it comes to something like the Asus brand since they dont sell upgrade kits like that .

 

Very simple..... intial sales go to bulk RETAILERS, like NewEgg, Best Buy, etc..... and custom builds will be done by RESELLERS. Again, certainly resellers will offer customizable solutions, don't ya think?

 

Only thing customizable ive ever seen on an Asus machine is the CPU,ram,harddrives and never a video card . Asus doesnt operate that way is what im getting at and basically what they sell is what you get aside from those few things that can be easily changed out , installing a separate video card would be a piece of cake but they wont do it that way . They tried the Do it yourself laptop with the C90 and i guess it failed for them .But yes resellers may get the SLI models while say the EGG or Bestbuy would only get the single card solutions . I just thnk its dumb that would initially ship a system with a single card and then later toss another one in ?. Anythings possible though and again this is all Speculation but it seems as of late there support beyond the launch from any of there systems seems abit lacking to say the very least .

 

I put that poll together so we can see how many people have RMA'd their W90's.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=385055

 

Hey Bro,

Myself and others have had multiple RMA's. You need more categories! Your poll does not allow me to add additional RMA's, LOL!

 

In reading a few reviews of the nzxt cooler on notebooks in general, (not the W90vp specifially) with the fans on it cools the cpu cores 10 - 12 degrees lower in temp while the gpu is only cooled 2 to 3 degrees lower. Maybe the gpu just runs that hot in relation to the cpu cores and is beyond help, but I suspect that the cooling architecture is lacking on most gaming laptops. I can't imagine SLI and Crossfire help the situation.

I think they need to make notebooks with better gpu cooling. They should give up on trying to keep everything slim. I would like it if they made notebooks more wedge shaped, high in back with a few arrays of modular fan blocks on the back that could be removed for cleaning or replaced as necessary. A cooler block integrated into the bottom with a few 120mm fans as well. I'd simply rather have an intelligently designed powered laptop cooler designed integrally into my gaming notebook's cooling architecture since its really a DTR anyway.

 

new bios update

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?model=W90VP&f_name=w90vp0601as.zip&SLanguage=en-us