*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

No, i don't mod the inf! It's the last vista driver on the link that i post. 9,5 MB from Date 15.05.
Unzip it and look at the CW_82256.inf

 

Ur right... you didnt... I was looking through all the infs in the x64 bit version (which is also listed on the MS cat site) and saw the desktop driver... But they DO also have a mobility driver in there.

My bad. please forgive me of my sins.

 

scores and gaming performance for these mobility cards are very dependent on the CPU, specifically clock speed. Hence, people with the Q9000 running at stock speeds will get significantly lower performance and scores than systems equipped with faster CPUs (i.e. QX9300, T9600, etc).

 

Ya know, I guess what annoys me most about this whole thing is ASUS wont get off their behinds and release a updated vid driver. I bought this on, among other things, ASUS's reputation. Looking back over the last few pages I wonder about that reputation.

Starting to feel pretty abandoned by both the resellers and ASUS on this, I mean lets face it, they both screwed up IMHO.

 

Resellers are in the same boat as you... they are going off of Asus reputation and what they are told by Asus. Why does everyone act like resellers are the bad guys? They simply buy the product at a discounted rate, and sell the product to make a profit... thats it... how can you blame them for this?

The lack of support is all Asus and other OEMs complaining to Nvidia and AMD to not put out software for the mobile cards because it makes it hard to support something that they are unfamiliar with. They then put out relic drivers that "work" and dust off their hands and its on to the next new product. They built their reputation on excellent hardware, and top notch warranty and customer service... not technical/software support. I agree, this needs fixing.

 

If you guys want help from asus were going to have to ask for it. I posted this before and I will re post it now

I urge all w90vp owners to submit a tech report here requesting a vga and bios update (mention voltage moddable if you can )

This is likely the only way we will receive updates for this laptop, it doesn't take long to submit a report guys so please lets get the ball rolling on this


Just post saying you want a driver/bios update and this emailed forwarded to the proper people to get new drivers written.

 

You can have te best hardware in the world, and its totally worthless without the software/support to go with it.

And, yes I do think the resellers need to take some of the blame for this. If I own a store, and sell products that are faulty, I am at least partially responsible for that. Granted the manufacturer needs to shoulder the most of the blame here, but I am not going to give a store or reseller that is knowingly selling products with problems a free pass.

I can understand when the issue first came up, the resellers had no idea, but this issue has been documented for some time and they continue to sell faulty products.

 

Yeah this is one of the things I tried as well.... I installed Ultimate x64 with SP2 but still couldn't get rid of the grey screen/lines issue. In fact in all my testing I think I reinstalled my OS about 15 times. Made me start wishing i'd ghosted a vanilla OS.

I still haven't heard from Asus and they've had my machine a few days.... oh the anticipation!

 

If it makes you feel better... go ahead and believe that. Most sane people will realize the resellers are in the dark just as you are. Asus themselves are sending out "repaired" units that are not quite fixed. If that is what they are telling the customers, thats what they are telling the resellers... but resellers have nothing to do with the issues.

The only real way for a reseller to know that products are faulty is to get notification from the OEM that they are faulty, or to open the product up and test it to make sure it works properly... but then you would complain that the product was used and not "new."

 

I started to read through these posts but with over 800 I figured that my broken laptop would also be outdated before I finished reading them all to see if my question was already answered. Should my ATI CCC have a box to check that enables crossfire? I don't believe my second 4870 card is hooked up/enabled/connected. Device manager identifies it, but I have no way of knowing if it is actually operating. My Mark06 score was 9800 - I have the t9600 CPU model. Should the cable between the cards be connected? I am also having an issue with the mouse and soundcard not initializing after a hard boot which is requiring me to softboot a couple of times to get them to work. I could have been annoyed with a much cheaper laptop, pretty rediculous to have these issues with a top dollar ASUS model. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

get gpu-z... if you have ccc 9.4, theree should be no checkbox for xfire.

 

I wrote a post about this last week or so,,, PLEASE everyone,, write the report, CALL them and insist - It's going to be the only way we get Asus to take care of it.
Don't wait for another owner to do it for YOU cause the strength will be in the numbers that respond.

 

I just followed the link and filled out the form - We need a poll as to how many of us are actually doing it

 

Does any one have a link on how to flash the cards to 9.4 i just got my 90vp and i really want to play crysis

 

Congrats!!!!! http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=371558

 

man. This is why I ordered the AlienWare M17x. F Asus

 

lol. at least we don't have to RMA our lappy because a light on our keyboard went out...

the lappy does have problems, but the main reason i chose the w90 is value, and it doesn't look like an riced out impot car.

 

yeah but you have mobo problems right?

 

sounds right, our higher scores are due to new drivers and overclocks.

 

Mine came in today and after installing SP2 and the rest of windows update, went to Vantage. All drivers are stock, no changes placed

stock
3D Mark Score P8516
CPU 7720
Graphics 8819
2003 MHz

15% OC
3D Mark Score P9276
CPU 8888
Graphics 9412
2288 MHz

Another observation is the lower right side has some slight discoloring. It's hard to explain, but it's like a half circle light leak or something. It seems to be getting better the long it is running as though it is warming up.

Do these numbers sound in line for 100% stock settings?

 

i'm goin to run vantage later tonight with my cpu clocked over 2.6ghz and see what i get..

hey vicious, did you read my post about vantage? i had no flickering in vantage at all, and the tests ran pretty seemlessly...

also, how long did i take for shipping from your house to asus, and from asus back to your house? ken is sending me a bootable cd iso tomorrow to roll back vbios to see if that fixes anything... and if it doesn't, looks like i'll have to join the RMA club.

 

Linked adapter means its in crossfire.

Remember Asus marketed the card as a 4870X2 not two 4870's in crossfire. So they have it set up as a linked adatper.

If crossfire was OFF

it would say - Secondary Adapter

 

Is anyone else getting a loud buzzing noise when the laptop is running? Mine just arrived, and the buzzing is the first thing I noticed as soon as I switched it on.

Edit: I don't mean buzzing whilst sound is playing. I mean at desktop, with nothing running, there is a distinct buzzing noise.

 

Interesting this came with lightscribe software installed. The BR drive isn't Lightscribe capable as far as I can tell, just wierd Asus would install this without the supporting hardware.

 

no noise here.. thing is so silent compared to other laptops, especially in game...

pretty sure it is for dvds...

 

ken has been outstanding... and has offered the best customer service i have ever experienced. even now, after i have paid, and got my laptop, he spends the time to answer all my questions... no "wham, bam, thank you mam."

asus should feel very lucky that they have resellers, like ken...

 

Has anyone tried to play Diablo II on this laptop? I hope that 2D problems wont cause any video glitches, I am kinda wanting to play that game again and getting my lapy on Monday the 15th

 

built a hammerdin to level 20 with absolutely no problems.

 

Why are some people getting such low 3dmark06 scores? (93xx) I thought notebooks with dual GPUS would get at least 11,000. Did I misread the previous posts?

Also what's the difference between the W90Vp-X2 and the W90Vp-A1?

I'm aslo wondering about these supposed ZipZoomFly W90Vp-A1 specs:

Why they didn't include the "2x" to indicate the two GPUs is a mystery to me. All versions of the W90 does have crossfire, correct?

Lastly, what problems are people experiencing with this notebook? I've read that something occurs during browsing...(Forgot what -jumbled screen?) How many are experiencing problems, exactly? Should I hold off until the issue is resolved?

Thanks folks.

 

x2 is a dumbed down version of the x1... the x1 compared to the a1, lacks a blue-ray drive, and has a different processor...

most of the vantage scores posted are at stock q9000... or at the turbo oc, which is only around 2.2ghz... i think when ken ran his benchmark at 2.6ghz he was getting around 12-13k..

all versions have w90 have xfire...

and about problems, getting the lappy at a later date will not exempt you from getting any problems.. just like any hardware, there is always a possiblity of some sort of fault... but asus has a great RMA service, if you end up needing to RMA your unit.. not to mention the great 2 year warranty...

i'm the one with the ie browsing problems, and i can honestly say even with the problem it is a great machine (and i'm having no in-game problems)... i reccomend getting your order in asap because of all the pre-orderss.. i highly reccomend gentech... ken is awesome.

 

Hey 0ri0n,
I am curious how you were able to clock the proccessor so high. With the voltage limitation that most people are experiencing with the quad cores, what makes that CPU an exception?

 

hey infiniteone... what settings do you use on setfsb for the w90??

 

Well Im at work atm so I dont have it infront of me but I know I set the FSB to 368.7 and it works pretty well. Viscious's guide has instructions on what to set it at. That is what I used. Ist funny though my CPU is really stable at 2.75, but 2.8 and it just crashes. I guess we need more voltage

 

how far are you pushing the slider bar out of 760?? and how can you tell if it runs stable? ii used setfsb, and ran wprime, but it said it was going to use my default clock speed @ 2.0ghz.

 

cpu will downclock when not under load, dont go by that stuff go by your score and you can use cpu-z and then put the cpu under load to see the cpu speed. Though for me setfsb always tells me my new clock speed in the bottom right corner.

 

oc'd my unit to 2.67ghz (took a long time to figure out where it is stable)

3dmark06 consistent around 15k
3dmark vantage consistnt around 10k

and yes, i have the 9.4 e-wrcked's drivers installed...

 

Good scores Kim. I did some testing last night and would like to note that the 3d mark scores between stock and mod 9.4 GPU drivers are very similar. However in game you receive much better performance on 9.4. In burnout Paradise specifically I got double the FPS (from an average of 32FPS to 56FPS) after the update.

Also another thought, as far as I understand dual GPU crossfire operates in scissor mode (Split Frame Rendering) meaning each GPU renders half the frame. If this is true then you would have available more than 512MB maybe not a full GIG but close. Can someone please explain how only 512MB is avaliable in crossfire. Also what do you think would do more to lessen the load on the memory. 1680x1080 with 2XAA or 1900x1080 with no AA? Thanks

 

Kinda a sad statement about a company when its almost best known for its RMA service.......I would think would be better to get it right the first time.

 

i'm just saying i'm glad it is hassle free. a lot of companies try to back out of their warranties.. even though asus hasn't publicly announced it, they seem to be aware of the problems with the w90, and are practically taking back any unit...

i do agree with some of the points you make though, i do feel like asus released the w90 a little bit too prematurely.. but that is hardly the fault of any reseller..

wwoods, if you feel that bad about the purchase, why not just put it up for auction, or return it? i sort of feel like complaining gets you no where... personally, i am not happy that everything didn't work out perfectly, however, nothing in life is perfect... which is my point about the RMA... let's say you get a "perfect" unit out of the box... that isn't going to exempt you from having future problems... if the company RMA service sucks, then it is going to be even more of a hassle and very stressful.. you get what i'm saying?

 

Are you guys all able to apply cpufsb in one leap to your overclock? I have to slide it in increments to 3.65ghz.. Nice and stable there but from 266 to 366 fsb i get a lockup everytime, thus preventing me from using the auto-tool to do it at bootup.. sucks! I have to manually slide it up about 30mhz at a time.

 

Its best to do it in smaller steps, you should be able to do more than 30mhz at a time though.

I think most of us are using the Q9000 so our clocks are different (*cough dual core sucks end cough* )

 

Yea, I understand what youre saying regarding the RMA, its great their process is hassle free when it needs to be done. All I was saying is that would have been better if their QA on this was a little better (ok a lot better), but again, I agree their RMA process seems to be verry good compared to a lot of companies.

 

yeah, i agree with that.. but i don't feel abandoned. just saying, if you were dealing with a bigger corporation, you'd be lucky to get someone on the telephone... let alone get help for any of your problems. its great to have people like ken, who you can reach via pm, e-mail, or telephone and get a same day response...

also, it is awesome that ken doesn't pitch you... like when you go into best buy and get those snobby little 18 year old kids who try to "sell you" a laptop and have no clue what ram does.

i do feel however, that asus pr could be a lot better..

 

My CPU is a dual core e8435 that came from an iMac. Its default clock is 3.06ghz. With setfsb... I am able to get up to 4.2 without it crashing on me immediately... but it will start artifacting after some time and then crash... I can be completely stable at 3.7ghz, and run everything, or 3.8ghz and not be able to run 3dmark... which I am fine with since games still run without problems.

 

Is there an easier way to upgrade to the new ATI drivers without having to flash the cards?

 

No, if you want both cards to work you have to flash them both as master. When Asus releases it next set of driver we will have a better chance of tearing them apart and guessing how they work.

 

I had the same issue on mine (Qx9300) where I'd have to make incremental jumps.

 

Alright thx I just dont feel comfortable flashing my cards

 

any idea on when GenTech PC is getting the next shipment of W90VP- A1?

 

Actually, its not bad at all, the guide is pretty easy to follow, I did it here and have never flashed a vid card before. Have plenty experiance doin microcode on UNIX systems though