*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

You will not find any real life noticiable difference between DDR3 and DDR2 other than the money missing out of you wallet. However you dont have a choice anyways the W90 only supports DDR2, DDR3 uses a totally different socket type.

 

Hi I just went through the limit breaker guide thank,s ViciousXUSMC. All went well with the flashing ext and i seem ok with using set FSB. I did not get on to well wight overclocking the GPU with the AMD GPU tool. I seemed to get a blank screen and had to hard restart. Could someone give a detailed description of how that tool should work...

 

Ahh thanks for the info, mine went to Fremont, CA. Perhaps that's a busier repair center hence it's taking longer. I'll call them again this week.

 

Still waiting on mine from Fremont too... was told the ETA for the replacement cards is between July 1 and July 8.

Luckily I bought another toy... Sorry for your loss John

 

lol...not a loss, just a temporary "timeout" to get my desktop up to par, then it's back to a laptop...

 

Well it seems the M17x's are starting to pull ahead of the W90..............

 

Yes they are pulling ahead, but like many of us speculated months ago where it would not be leaps and bounds better And there not . I was all set on getting a cheap0 laptop and that didnt turn out as planned so my eyes have shifted again and i may just wait and see what john ends up with and go from there .

 

Ok, I have tried searching for it, but how do you turn off the standard mode icon during movies, it is so damned annoying.

 

Uninstall turbogear and use setfsb... j/k

I believe there are 2 services that run with turbogear... turbogear and the turbogear helper service. Dont quote me on it... but i think if you stop the helper service, that will disappear, and turbogear will still run. Havent had my W90 for almost a month, so im not 100% sure that will fix your issue, but i never had the mode displayed while playing a movie.

 

Just cycle through the turbogear settings with the button above the keyboard, it will then go away. Annoying that you have to do that every time you watch a movie.

 

Thanks, I will try that

 

Witch games/benches?

I still have not seen really good results in the threads I was browsing.

 

Another test they're benchmarking is the X3 Terran Conflict demo. If W90 owners would like to compare results, you can download it here:

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/x3-t...ds/x3-terran-conflict-rolling-benchmark-demo/

 

I'll do that tonight for sure

 

Full Stock A1 drivers and no OC

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 X2 [3315 MB] Driver: 7.15.0010.0154
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9000 @ 2.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Usable System Memory: 6142 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 4x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 25.1 average fps 7.0 minimum fps 58.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 53.8 average fps 20.0 minimum fps 122.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 74.3 average fps 43.0 minimum fps 167.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 34.3 average fps 18.0 minimum fps 63.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 46.9 fps

 

Hey does anyone have any word on modded 9.6 drivers? Supposedly ArmA II runs much better with them and Crysis as well. By the way what ever happened to E-Wrecked?

 

He just vanished, I think a few people on the forums know him outside of the forums so maybe they can try to get in touch with him.

I have not touched the 9.6's yet since I mentioned that I would look into it.

Been working, watching the kids, and doing some bike riding.

Did 17 miles today in a lot of mud, I fell over once as I followed behind somebody and they rutted out a puddle real deep so my bike sank half way into the mud and just stopped instantly, my feet were locked to my pedals so I fell over like a tree.

Great ride today though wish I had pictures, also wish I did not spend 1:30 after the fact cleaning me and the bike.

 

I just ran the X3 Terran Conflict demo. I have a X1. Using ViciousXUSMC's guide and the 9.4 drivers, turbo gear oc at 17%

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: 4870X2M [3315 MB] Driver: 8.15.0010.0190
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Usable System Memory: 6142 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 4x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 41.5 average fps 14.0 minimum fps 97.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 92.1 average fps 35.0 minimum fps 223.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 122.5 average fps 72.0 minimum fps 227.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 56.1 average fps 30.0 minimum fps 105.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 78.0 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com

 

Only 3fps behind the M17x w/ dual GTX 280s, but you're running it @ 4xAA vs no AA on the M17x. If you can, try using setFSB to OC your CPU and GPUtool to OC your GPU and see if anything changes (now that the M17x owners are able to OC their GPUs, expect comparisons to such).

 

I dont have any experience with those programs yet but will download them and try it tomorrow. So I should run without the 4x aa as well?

 

If you can, sure. That would be a more direct comparison to what's been posted.

And those programs are pretty easy to use, but takes some trial an error. For SetFSB, go back to Vicious' guide and try increasing in increments. I think a T9600 with SetFSB should hit 3.6ghz. GPUtool is kinda buggy, but it's the only program so far that actually overclocks the cards when in crossfire. Some W90s have hit around 640mhz core and 960mhz in memory, so when you get the chance, try plugging in lower values to see if it's stable enough.

 

Great score, they posted it on the AW forum, thing is they said get this since its an unbaised game, but now somebody said they think ATI does better in this game

I'll d/l it at work tonight and try some nice OC results.

 

Ill try it in about a month... when I get my W90 back

 

Vic, do you have farcry2?????

 

Nope, no farcry2 and I hear its not that good of a game so no plans to get it.

im 93% done with that X3 demo, taking forever to download on work wi-fi

 

Lol. let see what you can do with it.

i wish you did have it. i wonder if anyone else can has it?????

 

hey guys, been watching the forum for a while now in prepration for my shiny new W90 but now i have got it im not really sure what drivers i should be using....dont want to lose my warranty, but whats considered to be the best to use driver at the moment?? also anyone suggest a guide to set up the laptop to turn on at a spefic time, then run all the clean up programs defragger etc.....which some decent programs suggested?

 

Spent a lot of the night trying to test my theory of the RAM holding back my OC on the CPU.

With the program SPDTool I tried to increase the latency of my DDR2 667 table to match that of the DDR2 800 table, this increase in latency will allow the ram to overclock higher, and thus the cpu to overclock higher.

I was able to manipulate all the timmings other than the CAS, and but thing is when I go to flash the new SPD table I get a few errors (exceptions) and when I reboot nothing seems to have changed on the RAM.

Not sure where the problem falls, but I am willing to rip the RAM out of the W90, rip open my EEE 1000H , and stick it in there and try the tool there.

I think maybe the new chipset of the W90 is not really supported by the program as it is about 2 years old, but with luck the EEE can flash the Ram.

If it works dont be surprised to see anywhere from a 3.0 to 3.2ghz OC on my Q9000

 

Ok, I ran X3 demo without the 4x aa. This is with a X1 using ViciousXUSMC's guide and the 9.4 drivers, turbo gear oc at 17%

I will next do the overclocking using setFSB to OC the CPU and GPUtool to OC the GPUs as requested. As I said prior, I don't have any experience with these tools and I am at work so I will get back here as soon as i can.


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X3 - Terran Conflict
--------------------------
Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: 4870X2M [3315 MB] Driver: 8.15.0010.0190
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Usable System Memory: 6142 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: NONE
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 41.5 average fps 13.0 minimum fps 98.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 93.2 average fps 34.0 minimum fps 222.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 123.7 average fps 71.0 minimum fps 264.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 56.3 average fps 31.0 minimum fps 106.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 78.7 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com

 

Can someone verify that these would work in my x-1, all looks good to me but I would like a second look from someone before I order.

Thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Memory-4-GB-...s?hash=item45ec9587cd&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

 

So, what roughly were the AW m17x users getting for the x3 demo benchmarks?

 

Same as us, as I disscused and explained to them in there side of the forum I found this benchmark to be heavily cpu bound.

My score was compltetly bassed on cpu speed just liked 3dmark06.

So you would score higher with 2 lesser cards and a faster cpu than you would with 2 high cards and a slower cpu.

I got 68fps with my Q9000 @ 2.7ghz but only 62fps with it @ 2.5ghz despite the fact I had a huge OC on my video cards.

the people in the 70's are using dual cores in the 3ghz range.

So to make it short and sweet, this bench is totally worthless unless you want to remind yourself the clock speed of your cpu, it has no bearing on the performance of the gpu units.

 

Hey, thanks Vic, that's a great explanation to really help understand what's going on with this benchmarking stuff.

Off topic, but thanks for all of the work, help, and support on this forum. I haven't installed the limit breaker and 9.4 drivers yet however I downloaded them and it's awesome how helpful you are with laying everything out in the files and the guide you put together explaining how to do everything!

 

Hi ViciousXUSMC I have used your great limit Breaker Guide All went well with the flashing of the GPU and installing the 9.4 drivers thank you. I am not to confident with using the TechPowerUp GPU tool. Could you give a little bit more detail on how to use this tool. How to check if you have successfully overclocked the GPU and how the machine should respond if all is well.

 

Also after using the limit breaker guide the one game my son was playing Mirrors Edge went from avg 32 fps to avg 65fps with no gpu overclock and a sfb Q9000 @ 2.5ghz

 

Well its pretty straight forward, you just have two sliders.

One for Core Speed, one for Memory Speed. You slide them up some and hit apply.

Do this in small chunks of about 15mhz each and test until you find a point where you have issues then back down.

But I guess I will explain in a short guide addition tonight if I find time how to test the card for max clocks with the built in test.

 

If that fails, you could try some Kingston apple DDR2 ram. Though they don't specify the timings, I assume they are more lax to allow for that high a frequency.

 

Eh I do not have the money to be playing tester right now.

I tried to use the spdset tool on my EEE and it wont read the memory so I guess that chipset wont work with it.

I found out the W90 chipset may not be what is not compatible with the ram, it just could be my ram is write protected, considering it reads it but wont write it that seems a fair assumption.

 

Just a random question: has anybody played ARMA 2 on their laptop? Is it runnin smooth?

 

I have been and I get mixed results...sometimes im at high twenties and thirties with everything maxed no AA but then sometimes I get 50s and 60s its kinda strange im waiting for 9.6 drivers cause I hear that makes a ton of difference. Graphics settings seem to have no impact on performance except for AA. I can play on the lowest settings at a lower resolution and its not much difference which is quite frustrating to be honest.

 

compare to the whitebook. higher resoultion

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X3 - Terran Conflict
--------------------------
Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7077) (7077.winmain_win7rc.090404-1255)
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
Graphics Card Info: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2 [2296 MB] Driver: 8.14.0010.0655
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q9300 @ 2.53GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Usable System Memory: 4096 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: NONE
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: enabled
More Dynamic Lights: enabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 39.8 average fps 7.0 minimum fps 100.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 91.6 average fps 36.0 minimum fps 205.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 111.2 average fps 64.0 minimum fps 161.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 57.6 average fps 29.0 minimum fps 110.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 75.0 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com

 

Umm, this brings a problem for me! I am to get 1920 x 1200 resolution! I used VisiousXUSMC's guide and have the 9.4 drivers...Anyone have any ideas or reason?

Thanks

 

The screen is a 16:9 1920x1080 resolution panel. You cant pick a resolution higher than the screen supports.

 

Thanks Vicious. Got confused as Newegg shows resolution at 1920x1200 for the x-2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220527

although I have the x-1 I thought I was missing out....panic mode has passed

BTW, I didn't bother posting anymore benches from the X3 demo since you said it was useless. I will if needed run anything else you guys want to see on my x-1. Just not in the next couple of days since Bound in Blood is released today and I will be engulfed!!!

thanks again

 

The notorious NewEgg Misprint... all W90s are 1920 x 1080.

 

I'm having a problem installing the 9.4 drivers on my cards. I used Ken's bootdisk to flash the cards, 1st one master oc, 2nd one slave oc. I'm trying to install the 9.4 drivers now through device manager however it won't let me install for the second card. I only get an a yellow warning flag that drivers aren't installed properly. Could I have done something wrong? Should I use Vic's flash instead and make them both master?

Thanks.

 

You have to flash both cards to master in order to install 9.4 drivers.

 

Flash the slave into a master. Read the guide again slowly.