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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. edit

    edit Notebook Consultant

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    Hello!

    After reading this thred for days and others more over the web i did not find a solution for updating the video driver for my W90 _without_ flashing the videocard's bios.

    I don't want to flash the card becouse the laptop is brand new, i just want a moded driver that works better then 8.55 what i have from factory (that has a fair share of problems) but it seems that no one knows how to mod 9.4 or 9.5 or 9.6 or 9.7 in order to work fine with both cards (in the default master slave configuration) and CCC (with all the features on)

    To be honest i got tired and frustrated to not be able to find any version that works... and believe me i've tried a lot....

    Can u guys pleaseee pleaseee guide me in a direction, give me some hints, something. Any help is apreciated! I kinda lost hope here.

    Millions of thanks in advance
     
  2. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    trust me, the 9.4 driver mod with master/master makes a huge difference in performance. your games will run 20-50% better with less glitches and crashes. you should just do the 9.4 mod now, and wait and see if someone will find a way to mod 9.7 for master/slave or master/master. or you could sell your w90.
     
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    thank you for your feedback.... i am waiting for other opinions if the modding is such a huge improvement and if it;s the only way to go... if it is i'll have to consider it...

    i don;t want to sell my W90 becouse it;s the only real gaming laptop that sells in my country....
     
  4. mplsjava

    mplsjava Notebook Consultant

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    I would suggest to simply follow ViciousXUSMC's guide for the drivers. It is super easy to do and takes all of 10 minutes.

    For me, updating the drivers to 9.4 made a big difference on gaming performance as well as fixing many issues the older drivers had.
     
  5. mkinasz

    mkinasz Notebook Consultant

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    It's worth doing. Keep in mind that it's not a one way trip. You can easily get yourself back to the factory configuration. :cool:
     
  6. wwoods

    wwoods Notebook Deity

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    There is no other option..... ASUS, GENTECH and XOTICPC have left us screwed, glad there are people who have made this fix.
     
  7. interceptor

    interceptor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question:

    what does the Asus Turbo Gear Enhanced VGA Driver on my W90? If i use Turbo Gear, he clock the GPU higher? Or what function has the driver?
     
  8. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    Turbo gear only overclocks the CPU.
     
  9. joaoweber

    joaoweber Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi, I saw on the asus site that is available for 4000 series driver for windows 7, someone already used the asus w90?
    could post a video, playing it possible?
    thanks

    * I'm thinking of buying a asus w90 or m17x
    :p
     
  10. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine is up for sale. Only used mine for 7 days now. It was RMAed and now not one problem with it. PM me if you're interested.
     
  11. 0ri0n

    0ri0n Notebook Consultant

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    Seriously... why bother posting?

    This thread is for helping people with the W90, your ignorance is not needed. Take your bitterness somewhere else.

    Why dont you try Helping look for/produce a fix for any issue you have (or may have had if you no longer have your W90) instead of all the pointless and stupid negativity.
     
  12. eyeofthestorm

    eyeofthestorm Newbie

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    Hi, the Turbo Gear VGA driver is just a kind of overlay. Maybe you did already noticed, when starting a game, that there is small kind of icon apearing in the top left corner for some secounds. This icon is indicating the current mode of Turbo Gear.

    To make this possible and also show this icon, when you change speed settings ingame .... you need any kind of additional video driver.
     
  13. eyeofthestorm

    eyeofthestorm Newbie

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    Hi all,

    It still is a pain to deal with ASUS support regarding that driver s..t.

    To anyone how managed to get 9.7 runnnig on Vista 64 with both cars working but not in crossfire mode (no flashed video cards).

    Can you try this again with a clean new Vista installation and without Intel Inf drivers?

    Then, you should get the same result ... both cards working without crossfire.

    When you are so far install Intel Inf drivers as the latest step. Maybe this could work, but it is only a theory.

    I would try this on my own, but my girlfriend is going to kill me if I am deleting all of her data :')
     
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    I told him there is no other option that has been found than the 9.4 and flashing that has been done so far. And I will post the TRUTH about being screwed by them as I will..... I am not allowed to post the truth about being screwed by them ? Some particular reason you dont want that said ?
     
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    Thank you guys for all the feedback. Now from what i understand making the cards master/master makes that moded driver (9.4) work. Question is : isn't an updated version out yet (that smart guy that made 9.4 can't be found and asked very nice for an update?

    Thank you once again for the help and suport
     
  16. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd agree with the many others who've suggested you flash and upgrade to 9.4. I was hesitant as well at first, thinking the stock drivers were good enough. Following the guide was much easier than I would have thought and the drivers give markedly better performance.

    You can always flash back to stock if necessary...
     
  17. wwoods

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    9.4 (modded) is only one that will work with master/master config.
     
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    Need further advice :
    Shall i use CCC 9.4 with the moded 9.4 driver or it;s a better one? (all i want is to be fully functional)

    Thank you!
     
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    interceptor Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok, i have test it for you. You're right. But I have testet with the original driver, because the newer drivers only one card is installed.
    I've never done 2 cards running as master/slave exept with the original drivers.
    I have installed a clean vista ulitimate X64 version. Then i installed the original ATI driver. Both cards are show in the device manager,
    but CCC say not linked btw no crossfire. ATI overdrive show me one card. I installed the intel chipset driver and the card are linked
    and ATI overdrive show me two cards.

    Greets from Cologne
     
  20. 0ri0n

    0ri0n Notebook Consultant

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    The only truth that you posted is that Asus left us screwed, the rest is OPINION. There is a difference between truth and opinion in case you havent noticed.

    You might as well blame us all for the W90s issues, as we supplied the demand for the laptop, and XOTIC/Gentech supplied the supply. So I guess we screwed you too huh?
    Youre being childish... accept it.


    On a lighter note, I will grab the 9.7 and 9.4s and do a direct comparison between all the MSIs and catalogues and see if i can come up with something.
     
  21. wwoods

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    Uh...no youre wrong. XOTICPC and GENTECH continued to sell known defective units....there in the same boat as ASUS on this one. Defend them all you want...doesnt change anything.

    Is it OPINION that XOTICPC continues to sell defective laptops after the defects became widely known ? No, its FACT that even NOW they are still selling known defective units.....

    http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-w90vpa1-order-p-2562.html

    and only up untill a few days ago GENTECHPC was also offering to sell the
    W90....
     
  22. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    My laptops not defective and I've never sent it in for rma so.... Whatchu talkin' bout willis?

    Seriously though, this isnt a defective product. When has Asus refused an RMA on this notebook?

    the first Ipods had a 25% failure rate, were they considered a defective product? Not at all. these notebooks may have a 30-50% failure and/or RMA rate, does that mean their defective? Not if the company RMAs as many times as need be to get a working unit. If you choose to play with the highend tech of these days expect it to 'play' back with you. If you want a rock solid notebook go and grab yourself and acer with nvidia graphics and have it die a year down the road with Acer and nvidia doing nothing to compensate you. There's a defective product.

    There are clearly some hardware issues with the first revisions of this notebook, now however most have been rectified. If your going to and complain about getting sold a defective notebook then and complain at Asus. Don't rip on the independent guys and most definitely do not troll and fill up our thread of helpful and wanted advice with your opinion.
     
  23. mplsjava

    mplsjava Notebook Consultant

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    Well put Mugenski and 0ri0n.

    I have not had any issues with mine either.

    Please take it somewhere else wwoods...
     
  24. hoofhearted

    hoofhearted Notebook Evangelist

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    What is up with this notebook? I thought computer prices were supposed to go down, not UP. This notebook started out at $2199 on newegg and is now up to $2549. We are in a recession, so I can't even fathom this.
     
  25. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    There no longer being produced so demand goes up :)
     
  26. xpo

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    Neweggs inventory on them is going down, and since they will not be recieving anymore the price will keep going up as their inventory approaches sold out status.

    I've had my W90 for about a week now, so I can't judge for sure, but so far i've had 0 issues with mine and that includes viewing and posting on this site.
     
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    BobXX Newbie

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    Mine was fine until I tried to edit my sig. on here a day or two ago and got the dreaded white screen of death! :(

    My music kept playing in the background, but I still had to do a hard reboot. Oh well, at least I'm not alone! ;)
     
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    One pattern I've noticed, is never leave a browser open when closing the lid to put it to sleep. This sometimes prevents it from entering sleep and sometimes it prevents it from waking up forcing a hard boot. Being mindful of this has reduced the times when it won't come out of sleep fully.
     
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    wow. posted this, clicked back 2x and got black and white vertical lines and had to reboot. The only time I've ever crashed is after posting on this site. I think this site is cursed.
     
  30. sirsloth

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    true statement
     
  31. eyeofthestorm

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    Thanks for trying this out. Maybe someone managed to test this with an other configuration.

    Greetings from Frankfurt
     
  32. interceptor

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    I have found a tool, which two .txt files, .inf files, .doc files etc. can be compared. It means "ultra compare".
    Btw so you can compare different .inf driver files from the ATI driver. So you can see quite well how the files differ

    Example: on the right side is the original "old" Asus driver and on the left the new windows 7 ATI 9.7 beta driver.

    [​IMG]
     
  33. deathell

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    Hello
    Does anyone see the objects are flashing when running resident evil5 benchmark version- fixed benchmark- all set to high?
     
  34. harmattan

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    Agreed. I'd even be hesitant to say that there is a high rate of failure, especially for a bleeding edge gaming machine. Unfortunately, you can't judge failure rate from a few vocal people on a forum. If I went from my limited experience, I've had two now (one sold) and both worked perfectly.

    I would say, however, it is useful for people to continue to post problems here as there has been some good advice and resolutions -- as long as they're working constructively and not trolling.
     
  35. ViciousXUSMC

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    Yeah its a known ATI bug not a W90 bug, run DX9 and it should be fixed (and perform better while looking the same)
     
  36. Mazdaspeed_6

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    ATI has problems with DX10 in a lot of games. My w90 seems to be performing over my expectations. I've installed over 12 games and it runs every game maxed out with 50FPS or higher, except for crysis/warhead.

    the only game that it runs 20-25 FPS is Prototype. even if i change the settings to low it runs the same. i think there is something wrong with that game. bionic commando is the only game that has extremely bad bugs. anyone else know a really graphic demanding game? so far crysis/warhead, farcry, GTA IV are the only games that I know really eats RAMs and VRAM.
     
  37. Alexrose1uk

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    Prototype and GTAIV are CPU intensive just as much as GPU intensive; this is probably why you're having some FPS issues; the W90 only has a Q9000 at 2Ghz doesn't it? If you can clock it you'll get much improved performance, crossfire loves clocks too so again you'll get a small GPU boost if you do, in everything else.

    ATIs DX10 implementation isn't really an issue these days; Bioshock for example actually ran faster on ATI cards in DX10 than an Nvidia card; its all down to a lot of the favoured/famous DX10 games are also WIMTBP titles, aka NV sponsored, so Nvidia have access to the title for driver testing long before ATI.

    Demanding games - Crysis, Supreme Commander, Age of Conan, Prototype, GTAIV, probably the most demanding games out at the moment. Choose your poison :)
     
  38. Mazdaspeed_6

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    i OC my cpu to 2.5 and prototype ran the same. so unless 2.7 or higher makes a difference, im not seeing improvements. has anyone else tried bionic commando? i wana see if it's just my laptop that is getting the big bugs. gona get supreme commander and Age of conan.
     
  39. xpo

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    Guess you are keeping your W90 now?

    For anyone who's interested, there's a brand new W90Vp-A1 on ebay I saw earlier. Cheaper than newegg. Too bad I got the X2 before that auction came up. Still <3 it though!
     
  40. AirJordan

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    That is a good deal on ebay, considering you can't really buy from resellers anymore. I'm wondering, though, if I should go for that deal or buy the new Alienware M17x. Does anyone know how they differ in performance in both games and multimedia tasks?
     
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    About prototype, its not the w90 its the game. It has a bug where HID devices and stuff slow it down. It effects a lot of machines and desktops.

    Just disabling the right HID device in your device manager will probably give you like 20fps more.

    I have not tried it on my w90 yet only my desktop so cant tell you how to get it working, but you can find a few threads on it for other laptops with the same problem if you search the forums.
     
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    I also noticed that whether CF is on or off(switch by BIOS:disable one card), the FPS of most games(except crysis/call of duty/devil may cry4) keep the same, including RE5 benchmark. But according to this thread, there should be a improvement. And the performance of 9.4 driver is even worse than stock driver...
     
  43. saincteye

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    lol this thread is hitting 9300 post ....wow ...but anyway running on the moded 9.4 right now one thing I did notice is that when I 1st got the mechine I installed on normal Asus 64 Bit vista(the one that is full of blotware) , then installed on 32bit (which the modded 9.4 inf doesn't work) , then went back to 64 bit(clean install this time) . During the 1st time on 64 bit, I encountered sudden stutter every 2--3 seconds (that is why I went back to 32 1st) , once went back to 32 for a few weeks, then format everything , install the 64 bit run @ stock driver everything is fine( yeah I was afraid of getting stuter again lol) then can't take the temptation of faster clock ....so did the mod , this time it doesn't stutter at all ....hmmm...
     
  44. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    does the w90 support 120hz for HDTV? i hooked it up to my mother's 120hz 52" samsung and it runs at only 60hz.
     
  45. xpo

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    Newegg listing the X2 at $2700 now, thats a $400 increase in about a 10 day period from when I got mine. lol

    The A1 is still on ebay though, still think its a really good deal for anyone looking to get a W90.
     
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    I just took a quick glance on ebay and noticed an X1 up for under $2200..
     
  47. eyeofthestorm

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    It's up to your TV Set to double the framerate for the panel.
     
  48. xpo

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    Yeah I saw that after I posted, but it's used and it doesn't look like you get the backpack/mouse. Not a huge deal, but the A1 is brand new so you get everything and a blu-ray player. Both have the warranties though.
     
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    When using the HDMI output the video driver dies & restarts occasionally. Sometimes it results in a BSOD. Anyone else has this problem?
     
  50. Mazdaspeed_6

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    the TV is a 120hz. how do i set it so when i watch movies, it runs in 120hz?
     
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