*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

grab a flash drive and reflash it
or leave it as is and just send it back to asus with a little note saying fix it or give me a new one.

 

tried that, it freezes on the post screen =-/

on hold now to tell them i want doar. i dont have time to muck about with this, im having backsurgery in a couple weeks and hopefully will have it back by then. laying in bed for weeks on end with a broken laptop just doesnt sound fun lol

 

while they got you on hold.... this would be great info for page one of this thread.
i suppose you don't have a usb floppy do you?
reason why: to see if the w90 has a bios recovery option. i bet the techs don't even know how to invoke this one....

but using standard key combos
fn+esc
fn+r
fn+ win
fn +c
win +c
win +r
win +esc
win +b
win +r
holding any one of these key combos, you push the power on button and see if it will go in to bios recovery mode. you will hear a series of beeps and what not and if you have a floppy, it would reload your bios form there. but for now..just know they have this would be a great help.

 

man that subwoofer looks kill

 

Thanks striker . I didnt even know the laptop blu rays go upto 4x burning . 1 more question i do have. Has anyone recieved the q9000 2.0? If so how bad is the heating issues. I have heard the w90 has done many things to keep the laptop as cool a possible. and didnt one w90 owner overlcocked his faster quads to over 4.0, and if that thing kept going, i dont think the q9000 should have much problem touching 2.5 OC'd . Any thoughts. Im just so close into pre-ordering the w90 from xoticpc or just waiting on newegg. The w90's from both sites have their ups and downs and my wallet it confused

 

Well... Part of this I said before in the thread.

HD 4870 = RV770 chip with GDDR5 and 750 Core / 900 Memory
HD 4850 = RV770 chip with GDDR3 and 625 Core / 993 Memory

They're both RV770 chips, just that the 4870 has different memory configuration. I keep trying to bang into people's heads that the titles 4850 and 4870 are purely marketing designations. I'll illustrate this with a car example. If the HD 4850 is a Corvette, the HD 4870 is a Corvette Z06. They're the same car, one version is just more tuned and has some extra features.

If you cut out the tuning, suspension, etc of a Z06, does that mean it's no longer a Corvette? Of course not, it just means it's not the Z06. It doesn't change the core architecture at all, it just loses the special "extra" features that make it a Z06 above and beyond a Corvette. Asus is marketing this laptop as being having a Z06 when it's missing every feature that made it a Z06 and not just a normal Corvette. That marketing choice, deception, oversight, or whatever you want to call it, falls squarely on Asus marketing division and not ATI. ATI does not manufacture any of the parts that make RV770 a 4870 (GDDR5), so it again falls back on Asus for the way this was sold.

My frustration (Phinagle's as well I believe) is that some people in the thread (Not saying you specifically johnksss) can't understand the difference between RV770 the chip and HD 4850 / HD 4870 the full video card with board and memory.

You forgot Prime95, CoreTemp, wPrime, IntelBurnTest, and SUPER-PI.

 

majorly jealous of you

 

oh, i agree alright. im just wondering which one it really is.
a 4850 over clocked or a 4870 under clocked...so to speak.(under clocked meaning for the 4850 series card)

 

I can't wait till Newegg gets some in!!! I keep refreshing the page, in hopes for status change ! I need to go get a beer or something...

 

i already ordered the N50vn

now i dont feel so hot anymore thanks to u guys

 

I understand you perfectly and your analogy was spot on. now with that said i also understand that mobile market has been doing this for years in many way shape and form, so im not the least bit surprised that the mobile 4850 is just a m4850 and the overclocked version is called the 4870 yet its not truly a 4870 from a desktop standpoint(DDR5, higher clocked etc) . The up and coming m280gtx is not a truly a 280gtx other than sharing its name, but from a sales stand point i can see why they would want to call it that for $$ reasons. Now until an ACTUAL m4870DDR5 ships in a notebook, i dont even consider it an actual piece of hardware. so at this point and time and it may not be for long the only m4870 is the DDR3 version.

 

*facepalm*

My point is that it's neither. Lower binned RV770's get spun as 4850's, higher binned RV770's get spun as 4870's. What marketing designation a chip gets is entirely dependent on what speeds it's capable of running at. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the RV770's being put in these Mobility cards are bottom bin desktop rejects that couldn't hit the required 625 MHz to be made into a desktop part. It would certainly explain how cheap they're able to offer these notebooks. What will be very interesting, and very telling, is if users start to hit a hard wall of overclocking.

Then again, it's also well known that the RV770 55nm process had great yields, so ATI could be on a surplus of great chips which allows them to sell them so cheaply. It's probably a combination of both.

The difference between ATI and NVidia is that ATI is releasing the same chip (RV770), but with lower clocks, and letting board partners do the rest. NVidia is releasing an old chip (G92) and naming it like it's GT200. There is a fundamental architectural difference.

 

Yes but who is truly the guiltier party ? Nvidia or ATI because it seems your mad about the fact that ATI is pulling a fast one on us and yet Nvidia is blind siding us with a baseball bat upside the head . Atleast with ATI were are truly getting a next gen chipset and Nvidia is just renaming the same old same old.

 

If you scroll back a bit I'm ranting mostly against Asus who is responsible for the vBIOS, PCB, and VRAM. ATI gave the market the product untouched (Albeit with moderately lower clocks to compensate for heat); ASUS did the butchering.

 

I brought it up again to rant about ASUS' butchering giving a good chip a bad rep.

 

Maybe not...

http://www.nextdaypc.com/main/products/details.aspx?PID=6676558&rsmainid=ND0130014

 

ive never heard of that company nor website, but if they offer some type of decent warranty on the ram or a money back guarantee(if it wont work) i would say go for it as that could be a very affordable option.

 

That's the consequence of the freedom ATi gives to these manufacturers. As a matter of fact, Pallit and Gainward already introduced special desktop 4850 cards with GDDR5 memory. Although due to the lower voltage provided to the RV770 chip in the 4850 it can't overclock to 4870 speeds, the performace distinction is blurred.

It's not so much a bad rep about the Asus cards. I still think a GDDR3 4870 from a W90 can take on a single GTX 280M. Heck, even a 4850 from the GT725 could probably do the job stock vs stock. But because Asus was the first to label a Mobility 4870 card, people will think that the specs for that card will be the specs for all future mobility 4870s from other manufacturers, when that is not necessarily the case.

 

Yeah but there's a big difference in buying a 4850 and getting GDDR5 instead of GDDR3 than there is in buying a 4870 and getting GDDR3 instead of GDDR5.

If I was supposed to pay you $900/wk for 2 weeks but paid you for 4 weeks you wouldn't say a peep...but if I was supposed to pay you for 4 weeks and only paid you for 2 weeks you'd come at my knees with a baseball bat.

 

i know it's a rv770, but 95 percent of anyone looking at that card is going to call it a 4850 or a 4870. so i will refer to it as such till they say they drop it and just call it a rv770-1 rv770-2 and so on.

you might as well call your hd4850 a hd4870. same thing as calling it an rv770 right?

guess that's why the call the rv770 the 4800 series. which covers all cards in the 4800 category. does this matter? to about 5 to 10 percent of the people. to the other 90 or so percent it's a :
ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4870 Graphics
ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4860 Graphics
ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4850 Graphics
ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4830 Graphics

humm, may look like they are waiting on these to hit the streets.
pulled from xbitslab
Samsung Begins to Produce 7GHz GDDR5 Memory.

Samsung Initiates Production of GDDR5 Using 50nm Process Technology
[02/12/2009 11:14 AM]
by Anton Shilov

Samsung Electronics, the world’s largest maker of various dynamic random access memory, said on Thursday that it had started mass production of GDDR5 memory chips using 50 nm process technology. The new fabrication process allows the devices to reach unprecedented clock-speeds and trim power consumption.

“Our early 2009 introduction of GDDR5 chips will help us to meet the growing demand for higher performance graphics memory in PCs, graphic cards and game consoles. Because GDDR5 is the fastest and highest performing memory in the world, we’re able to improve the gaming experience with it across all platforms,” said Mueez Deen, director of mobile and graphics memory, Samsung Semiconductor.

The new GDDR5 memory chips are not only capable of working at up to 7GHz clock-speeds, but also use 1.35V voltage, a reduction from 1.425V – 1.575V voltage of currently available GDDR5 memory chips from Samsung. Moreover, the new GDDR5 devices are cheaper to produce: by adopting 50nm class technology, Samsung expects production efficiency to rise 100% over 60nm class technology.

7GHz GDDR5 chips could provide 224GB/s or 448GB/s peak bandwidth when connected to a processor using 256-bit or 512-bit memory bus, respectively. It is unclear which of the forthcoming graphics cards will utilize 7GHz GDDR5 chips, but since both ATI, graphics products group of Advanced Micro Devices, and Nvidia Corp. are projected to release their new high-end graphics solutions later this year, it is definite that high-speed memory will be in demand.

Samsung’s new GDDR5 chips are now available in 32Mb x32 configuration (128MB) and are also configurable as a 64Mb x16 device.

Samsung expects GDDR5 to account for over 20% of the total graphic memory market in 2009. The company also said it plans to expand the 50-nm process technology throughout its graphics memory line-up this year.

 

Yawn!!!!!

 

RMA'ed mar 13th and they got it today mar 16 still working on it..... lets see what they decide on (do i have to call and talk to someone after sending it in ?)

 

done and done, doaR'ed , sent out today, JJ said 7-10 buisness days, will try to his best to get it rushed

oy, just so stressed over this surgery bleh

*anxiously awaiting for it to come back home*

 

off topic:
mrzzz:
what's wrong with your back, if you don't mind me asking

 

l4-l5 herniation/DDD
l5-s1 herniation (second time)

first surgery was a last april for l5-s1 lamectomy/discrectomy (im sure i butchered the spelling) since then my l4-l5 herniated from the extra load (so to speak) and l5-s1 herniated on the other side.

buddy of mine built a nifty swivel rig thing for my laptop to sit on (with fans, yay!) that hangs perfectly angled over my bed lol

ATM im back on my hpdv9700 17" wich seems so tiny and light now lmao



for driver customization/modding use the R7x string seems to work about as well as the asus drivers.(yay now its on topic +1)

 

LMAO, I know exactly what you mean! I am back on mu M70Vm 17" and it feels like an ultra portable lol.

 

Anyone have any videos of their w90 setups running any games(COD, OBLIVION, other graphic intense games) . HD content would be awsome. I was looking on youtube but beside the 2 videos on the first page, there was'nt any w90 love .. and whats the most time some of you w90 users have gotten from a full charge. 2 hr's??

 

wow! man i hope all goes well with that!!
on topic.
i had one of them as well dv9740us to be exact. i loved how sleek they felt in ones hands though. you have the 1440x900 screen though? missing that [email protected]" are we!..lol

 

I took a super sexy video of the BIOS!! But nothing else Sorry.

 

yeah me to i had the hp dv9640us. we all had made bad choices back then. i sold it and i saw it 2 weeks ago. then looked at my whitebook and then smiled.


but what is happening now. everyone is sending there notebooks back for the new bios from asus?

 

Mostly just the people who got the 1st batch. Mine was late 1st batch / early 2nd but they are replacing it anyways. It was stable, but still a couple things wrong with it.

 

1680x1050 so its not THAT bad but ya.... missing that hd and my fps in games went from 1920@all high to 12something all low and only 30fps lol

 

I would say closer to 1 hour, 1.5 tops. I didn't have the chance to run the battery down all the way, but on standard power settings, the utility projected 1 hr. 10 mins. of battery life. This thing is definitely meant to stay near an outlet!

Best to think of the battery as an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS).

 

your right, 1680x1050 is not bad at all...but going from max to wack..is definitely something!..lol

 

has all the problems with them w90s been solved by Asus ???

I am thinking of one ...




A Falling Cat named Spangky

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This thread gets really hard to read sometimes... more debating and off topic stuff than info on the notebook that I am looking for.

I think every question I have asked so far was lost to the abyss and never answered.

 

well not everyone has the notebook. some wants to know info about. some people want general specs, some people go every now and then and see that they are off topic and just join on it. i want to know the problems, fixes, and benchmarks. i want a 10page review on it.

 

they we're answered. this thread just moves fast.

 

Thats what I do just need somebody to buy my G50V so I can pre-order it. I have my eyes & heart set on the A1 version.

 

hi there dtwn ~~~

I hope you are enjoying your day



anyways have a great day ahead ~~~




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9 Lives only ...

 

Basically, still some issues experienced, not perfect. But newer systems are showing much fewer issues.

 

yep, waiting for someone to buy this with a qx9300 in it so i can see what it really does. dual cores are nice and all. don't get me wrong, but im looking for all around performance. that means a quad with high end gpu's to boot. and a must have...over clocking!

 

i'm getting one in my whitebook so i can benchmark against the asus's

 

nice! nothing wrong with having a quad in your life..

 

Quoted for truth

 

Lol. is there soppuse to be a big difference from my dual core 2.53 to a quad extreme 2.53 that can go to 3.0 to 3.3 easily?

 

It really depends what your doing with your machine. Encoding Ya, Gaming Maybe a bit and maybe alot depending on the title ,Opening and closing a window nope

 

sure, you get the cpu portion of the game...4 cored computers do more than dual cores at encoding/transcoding/decoding and so on.

 

def not helping on closing and opening a window, but great when running a virus scanner..why? because you can set it to use only two cores which leave you two free cores to continue un affected..