*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

Ya Quads are very handy and more so if you can put them to good use like what you have suggested . I can understand why the average person does not think they may need a quad but used proper they wont want to go back to dual core . im on my second desktop quad now and would not have it any other way . If i snag the dual core version of this machine, then in a few months time ill have a quad in it . Only bad thing about mobile quads is there ridiculously high prices especially OEM or Retail.

 

it sounds like i'm going to be having fun with it.
john i want to run some cpu benchmarks against yours.
quad against your desktop i'll get kill so ii dont even want to think abouti it Lol
it should be in the end of this week

i want one of the asus owners to get one to.

 

Were you not supposed to have your CPU last week or so ? did something go wrong in the mean time? i know you had it in your sig that it was coming and then it was gone .

 

oh you remembered, i thought no one pay attenion to my sig.

but yeah i had it on there but i took it off. it didnt look clean and i didnt have it in my hand. but i messed up my payments trying to rush to get it in by last sat. so it delayed my order to this sat coming. but i payed it all off and now i'm waiting for him to recieve my MO and then i'm golden. you'll know when i get it. im going to get a hdd and do a full blown 4page review about it.

 

it doesn't matter about getting killed. it's about what type of performance a qx brings to the table. and since the whitebook has over clocking just like the w90. you to can enjoy the benefits of over clocking..

 

Ya hes going to have a real monster on his hands with that Qx installed thats for sure . It seemed like E- was very happy with his in the Whitebook.

 

he was, till he ran out of over clocking room..lol. now the w90 picks up where it left off...but don't count the whitebook out just yet...if they make the 4800's for it, it could very well be right back in the game...with the price of an upgrade.

 

I requested for a replacement but they said they will decide on giving me replacement or fix that....they wil only replace if they duplicate the same problem but mine doesnt lockup on every boot up it locks two or three times out of 15 startups, i am not sure if thats the same case for other people around here too?

 

At the rate they have DOA'd the ones on here and handed out new ones your chances are pretty good youll get a new a one i would say . In the end it wont matter though as long as you have a solid working machine and its not like your machine is not brand new already .Asus really seems on the ball handling this stuff which is a plus.

 

Doesn't this void Asus's warranty?

I mean, common!

 

oh...i don't know..ask the asus rep kinc...you know...the guy that scored 20k with a qx9300.. seems to me his warranty is still good.

 

In theory yes, I have a feeling that the A1 with the Q9000 will do most of what the qx9300 can at a small fraction of the cost.

We did the math many pages back and if you got the same overclock on the q9000 as the guy that got 4ghz on the qx9300 had you would be at like 3.3ghz

I assume that was a lucky high level overclock so take away 10% and your looking at about 3ghz average with the stock q9000 thats nice IMO and would be enough to keep me happy and doing some high end video rendering.

 

Xotic is offering Q9100/QX9300 as an option on the A1. I take it they are handling warranty service directly for those who go the A1 route?

 

Id imagine your correct in that Xotic would be handling the warranty service and it may also be why its $1147 for the CPU as that may be some extra $$ to cover there rear in the future in case a problem arises.

 

ok. am i missing something here? if your chip burns up and you bought a legit chip that can be sent to intel then it's under warranty for 2 to 3 years. that chip will cut off before it fries the motherboard. and dammn near everyone says that you can do the upgrades your self. but if a problem arises, and you have to send the unit back. then it must contain all original parts(and that can still be worked around considering people who added memory/hard drives/bluray players) as long as the cpu was not the cause of the fault. also, you dont even have to send the unit in if the chip is at fault. rma it to intel and they will send you another one.
edit:
if you have alienware...your pretty much stuck. touch that sticker and it's bye bye warranty...lol (speculation of course)

 

Asus said the same thing to Striker in an Email reply he received from them.

Said there is a sticker on the CPU and you touch and poof go's the warranty .

Ill just have to be extra careful removing said sticker from the CPU and sadly it also means you can never sell the OEM cpu incase of warranty coverage which is a real bummer. That alone would help getting the Quad that much faster/easier . Its to bad they dont sell these machines barebones, infact i wish all laptops came barebones .

 

then that does present a problem. i wouldn't go for it but might present others problems. better buy it when they offer it with a qx9300 or get it from a reseller like xotic or eurocom or who ever else will sell it with a qx cpu.

 

I would love nothing more then to buy one from xotic with a Qx in it already but never in my lifetime shall i pay $1147 for a CPU no way no how.

 

yep. because that would be retail price right there. if i decide to get one, i sure hope rjtech has it. they sell barebones.

 

Ya im just not sure ASUS has ever offered barebones before ? you may know that question better then i . I have been looking at the M98 closer everyday and i honestly think the build quality looks sketchy at best . i hate the glossy finish and that whacky sony/mac keyboard, so honestly at this point i would probably go the ASUS route either way as its built like a tank and i wont have to wipe it off every 20 seconds .

 

they haven't said that shinny finish was going to be final or a variation. the only people to get one was notebookcheck. no one else has one.

 

Hopefully they will give the choice to the consumer with a matte or shiny option. One thing is for certain and i know it in my heart that the M98 will be faster then the current W90, but i think i can live with that no problem while others wont or cant. Theres always faster better etc and thats just tech .

 

First post here, and immediatly a question ....

I need to buy a new laptop TODAY. Current one has almost blown up just now according to the girlfriend who was working on it at home.

So I was looking at the Asus W90 .

Here in Europe I have only found the W90VP-UZ003K on store websites, and I was wondering if that thing also has the HD 4870 X2 in it.

Are there differences between the european version and the US one ?

 

What little info i could find on that model looks like it should have crossfire

http://www.apdv.nl/producten/product/71807

Says ATI 4870 1024 which is what the american one has as there adding the 2 cards together for a total of 1024 megs of video ram 512x2 .

 

Thx,

Its that ATI 4870 1024 which made me doubt a bit.

Seems the Cpu in the US version is better though. Do any of you know US websites that ship to Europe ? (And are decent in price)

 

Only newegg sells the the one with the 2.8ghz CPU and im not sure they ship to Europe you would have to look on there website . Xotic PC will be selling there version at the end of this month with a Q9000 in it 2 harddrives and a blu ray player for just a touch more then newegg and they might ship to you, but again you would have to check .

http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-w90vpa1-order-p-2562.html

 

Regarding the warranty, you may wish to ask Gentech about it. He gave me the impression that CPU upgrades MAY not void your warranty, depending on what Asus does.

 

And based on past record, Asus tech support is always correct?

Either way, take it with a pinch of salt.

 

You guys dont understand, when you have a reseller do a upgrade, the warranty is then covered by teh reseller not Asus.

 

well..the difference may be in the product distributed to resellers. Notice you have the W90vp-X1 while XoticPC will be supplied with the W90vp-A1 which is a different revision. It likely comes to them with the broader options for customization. They will be shipped on the 24th, so the systems which Xotic is ordering haven't even gone out to them yet.. Not sure if they order the CPU setup from Asus or if they build at their own facility. Either way, it's a different model.

Oh, and just a side thought.. If a customizing reseller orders systems from the distributor, and the distributor is aware that they are MEANT to be customized not just re-distributed "As-is" then it's pretty safe to assume Asus would give permission. Seeing as certified technicians are handling the upgrades, then you'd think Asus would have no issues with allowing resellers to customize items such as the CPU - as long as the CPU has been confirmed compatible with the unit. Wouldn't make sense to restrict them, and I doubt the reseller would stick you with a system which Asus won't be willing to stand behind. Just my personal thoughts..

 

The answer was actually rather odd. I asked Gentech about end user warranty coverage, but I'm unable to find the thread. It wasn't very long ago either.

 

You're not very good with the searching, are ya?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4617864#post4617864

 

Im under the impression of what I said above, I have seen it so that having something modified changes the terms so that you send it back to the reseller not asus, also at that point they usually offer there own custom extended warranty.

Though I guess if you think about it, many people have changed a setup option and still used the Asus warrenty... or maybe I just think they have.

Still I am most positive it gets covered by your reseller. Think of if you had a defect and needed to RMA, how can Asus send you a new unit with the changed specs when they do not even carry it?

 

Apparently not, I went with both the google and forum search and couldn't find it.

Good job.

 

no, your right ViciousXUSMC. quite a few people have changed one thing or another and have returned it back for a warranty. if any one acts like they didn't, they are telling stories. (this on a broad spectrum. and not just laptops) technically speaking. ANYTHING you do can be considered voiding a warranty, when removing the cover to clean it can potentially void it as well. it use to be you couldn't even do memory/HD/cdrom upgrdes. oh, and in case people forgot..over clocking is voiding the warranty. and for the slick people, going above the asus realm of over clocking is technically....voiding your warranty. allot of this stuff is really up to the people handling your machine and how well they know it.....

 

Hmm.. I wonder if overclocking using utilities other than Turbo Gear, but staying within Asus' OC window, voids the warranty? I'm just being stoopid.. sorry.

If computers are anything like cars, which both are consumer goods - If you replace the suspension on a new car with non-factory components, it will void your warranty on the suspension. Now, if your engine blows while the vehicle is still under the warranty window then they will still replace your engine, unless it was caused by the suspension(not likely). Since you used an outside company to replace the suspension, then they'll warranty their work but the Manufacturer won't. However, if your brakes fail and it is due to the altered suspension..then the manufacturer isn't liable for repairing the braking system, and you'd have to seek repairs from the company who altered the suspension(of course, that would be company specific as well).

As john said, it often times comes down to the company, and who assists you. Within reason, most companies have the consumers' best interests in mind. Heck, we keep their doors open. It all depends on the customers' approach to the situation, and the companies desire to see that customer satisfied. Everyone wants to do the right thing - as long as it doesn't cost anyone an arm and a leg.

 

comes down to the people you deal with. they are regular folks just like the rest of us. and they are there for an 8 hour a day job at regular salaries. act like an azz and best believe you will be denied! keep a level head and things tend to go better for ones self.

and looking at that guy with the 20k on 3dmark clearly is voiding the warranty, but look how many buyers it brought to the table? i think asus would warranty his machine, sorry. turbo gear just aint doing 1600 mhz on fsb on it's own without some sort of software modding.(advanced bios options/setfsb/or some other fsb program) the msi gt725 has advanced bios options which allow it to run higher than the 16 or 17 percent over clock it's set to at the factory. the w90vp may have the same advanced option..don't know yet..i dont' own one.

 

Marcus 'Kinc' Hultin is an Marketing Management Specialist at ASUS so it's a good bet that he doesn't have to worry about his warranty.

 

pretty much so....

that's a nice shinny new handle. he use to be just called and over clocker from sweden.

 

*facepalm again*

No, no, no. Calling my HD 4850 an HD 4870 is not correct because my HD 4850 does not have GDDR5.

This is nowhere near as complicated as people are making it.

 

*facepalm again*
yeah, you guys with this gddr5/gddr3 thing is crazy...im going to let you guys have that argument.
a porche with a vw engine is still a porche
a 4800 card with gddr5 or 3 memory is still a 4800/rv770 card. whether people choose to agree or not.

but yeah, you guys carry on with that....

 

Oh come on, can't you start a new thread to have this "debate" in?

While your at it, also debate religion, politics and abortion because no one is changing their minds about those either.

 

Preach on brother!

 

I have a couple questions for anyone willing to answer. Let me start off by saying I am reading this thread and am currently on reply 15xx still have a lot to read through and am basically reading info that is almost 10 days old.

That being said has anything been done about the driver/freeze up issue it seems like a lot of people are expierencing?

Also I have seen it speculated but does or has anyone heard if the reason these are not available for purchase is because of this issue?

To anyone that has a working machine would you say this computer could be used as a "laptop" I sit at a desk for 8-10 hours a day. I typlically play games with a notebook propped on my lap or my couch. I am not to worried about the weight but I am worried about airflow and the size.

Any idea if and when these will be available and does anyone know if the x1 model is going to be limited to Newegg (I hate buying from them and don't want an A1 model)

Thanks for any help

 

In the end the 4850/4870 use the exact same GPU RV770 clocked at different speeds, right?

The only thing that differentiates them physically is the ram type used?

If the "4870's" in the W90vp use GDDR3, then they are basically OC'd 4850's.

I am sure there might be subtle differences in specs and such, but in the end, it comes down to the GPU clock speed and memory used (and in the case of the 4860, bus width).

I still consider the 4870's OC'd 4850's in the W90vp, but that's just me and the price point ($2199) is rather nice.

I don't think GDDR5 is suddenly going to turn the 4870 into a world destroyer from what I've read comparing desktop 4850 vs. 4870, but will provide a nice modest boost.

And while Nvidia is using rebranding yet again, I think the GTX280M is going to be just as fast as the 4870 solutions. While I wish Nvidia would innovate, it really shows you the strength of the G9X GPU with such a long shelf life.

 

Asus did introduce a barebone earlier in the C90 series. For some reason, they stopped supporting it probably due to the lack of demand. A DTR like this though would make a good barebone.

 

Here is a 4850 with DDR5 lol so i guess we can end the debate now.Card makers do what they want and name them what ever they want In the end i guess the only thing to differentiate all these cards is there clock speeds.

http://www.techpowerup.com/86305/Pa...onic_Special_Edition_Sports_GDDR5_Memory.html

 

nah it wouldn't!




it would make a great one!!
way to many ways to change this one around.
get super fancy and buy 2 high end gpus and one 9800m gs + extra battery. pop in the 9800m gs for long flights and longer battery life.

 

More like a "4860." The other distinguishing factor between the 4850 and the 4870 is the core voltage, which is higher in the 4870. This is why a stock 4850 can't OC to a 4870 without stability issues.

 

lol
i like this guys comment though
by: techjunkie;1230606i dont understand why they have produced such a card that is almost identical to the 4870. Why would anyone buy this instead of a 4870 ??

So they could OC it to HD 4870 specs, at a [supposed] lesser price. This card looks more of an underclocked HD 4870 with the same Sonic cooler and some fancy connectors.
it has some fancy connectors??