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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Johnksss

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    yeah, been waiting for someone to pop up with that system...should be soon though...

    and that fsb was for amd cpus and not intel... :(

    side note:
    also need to get past the 5 percent lock asus has....the whitebook doesn't have this....
    also to note.. nvida cards do not handle aa well in a lot of case. seems once aa is enabled, it takes the cards out of sli performance mode and drops them into compatibility mode. (what ever the heck that is or is suppose to mean) if you find info on this, hit me up ichime.
     
  2. mplsjava

    mplsjava Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks on all of the Congrats!

    I am really looking forward to implement some of the "performance enhancements" you guys have worked on. Thank you guys for putting all of that together.
     
  3. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    "Viciousagra" W90 "performance enhancement" pills guaranteed to impress the woman you love!
     
  4. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Platform wouldn't matter as much as the chipset. The more recent chipsets for both platforms share the same basic architecture of the FSB (except the i7 platform) being the CPU-to-Northbridge link and the PCI express lanes being linked to the northbridge.

    As for nVidia AA, nVidia's relative weakness is in MSAA, which is used in most games in their in-game options. That's why nVidia introduced their own methods of anti-aliasing, in CSAA and SLi AA. I think some games use these and if not, I'm sure nVidia has a option for that in their forceware.
     
  5. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    not my doing. i was going off what they we're saying in that thread. i was just reading.... :)


    ^^^^
    and that there..im not even gonna comment on..just sit here and laugh my azz off. litterally.!
    so...what did you get
     
  6. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    3400ish gpu score I posted it here remember?

    but now I will run with 4x AA tonight and see what happens.

    Anyways gonna try to turn in, I have like 4 hours to sleep before I have to go to work and I have been up all day since I got off work this morning.

    Id still like a screen from you of the extreme presets so I know 100%.
     
  7. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    aight, sounds good.
    im still working..will be working for the next 10 to 12 hours.
     
  8. jamiee

    jamiee Notebook Consultant

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    Here's three Vantage runs from yesterday all same settings only CPU overclock used for the 2nd and third runs.


    1.
    CPU = 2.8GHz
    Video = 620/970
    Vantage GPU = P10573

    2.
    CPU = 3.06GHz
    Video = 620/970
    Vantage GPU = P10805

    3.
    CPU = 3.29GHz
    Video = 620/970
    Vantage GPU = P10975
     
  9. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    Are you going OEM or ES?
     
  10. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    and i would like yours posted to orb for verification :), but with 3400ish...it's cool..i don't need to see it. :)

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    jamie:

    nice. looking good!!
     
  11. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    What's the chance someone is going to actually software OC the GPUs a decent amount and runVantage? This is killing me! 50-60 mhz? Cmon.. Pump core 100-150 extra and 150-200 on memory. Anyone?
     
  12. paradyne64

    paradyne64 Notebook Guru

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    Newegg currently shows them in stock.
     
  13. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    Maybe you missed the part where these carts started artifacting at overclocks any higher than the current ones.
     
  14. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    We'll need someone to run the cards at 1.2v and a serious CPU overclock to get higher numbers. I'm sure this machine can hit 11.5k for GPU score, even higher.
     
  15. electrosoft

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    For most benchmarking, many times the settings aren't, "everyday use," settings, so artifacting is the equivalent to a CPU that makes it through benchies but bombs on a 30 min Prime 95 max heat.

    As long as the extreme clocks don't impact performance via downclocking/overheating to the point of crashing (GPU, CPU or both), it is fine for getting those max scores.

    Personally, I'm more interested in stable clocks. If your CPU and GPU can't handle a 1hr Prime 95 max heat and DX Real time 1hr FS run, it isn't stable.
    You can throw Orthos in there for good measure. :)

    That is why I take most extreme scores with a grain of salt. Good bragging rights, definitely, but I want to make sure my systems are rock solid day in and day out.

    And yeah, Newegg has been showing up in stock almost daily now. Not really shocking considering they have competition now from all sides with the A1 models all over the place, including eBay now. :)
     
  16. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    to tell you the truth..i only over clock for the fun of it, but when running my system..i run it stock. i don't need to over clock to play any of the games. that's just done for people saying the 9800m gtx cant keep up. (big chili cheese grin) and it seems to still be keeping up nicely.
     
  17. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    ...keeping up, or ahead? ;)

    And artifacting never hurt anyone.. magic blue smoke does p1ss people off though.
     
  18. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    i really need an ati machine though.. just to see how i high i can push one.
     
  19. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    why do you think you can push it farther then you did your nvidia. which one would you get the whitebook or the asus and why.
     
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    ken of gentech computers breaking 17.1
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  21. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ya after doing the Nvidia thang forever its a nice change of pace :) but the more i honestly mess around with both cards they are so much a like except for the whole SLI profiles which 9 times out 10 the nvidia recommended was the best choice anyhow, much like just leaving catalyst ai on standard vs advanced.
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Nice but those clocks are depressing so far . i hope i have some more luck on thursday when my Qx arrives :) i will say that if you could even hit 3.5ghz 20k should be a snap.
     
  23. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    i like to see things from both sides of the fence. gives one a better perspective of the bigger picture.

    quadzilla:

    hummmm, maybe 3.8 and good drivers and a few nicely placed tweaks to get to 20k
     
  24. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    He went up 37 mhz and gained almost 600 points ? if it were based on that ratio he would be well over 20k lol but i know its more of a fluke then anything .

    On a side note newegg is now out of stock again so it looks like 4 more people ( according to john) will be proud new owners :D
     
  25. Johnksss

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    he has to be in the 5500 and up club for cpu score...
     
  26. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what makes a cpu overclock stable?
    i am at 3.2ghz i cant really push it any farther.
     
  27. Johnksss

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    voltage and memory and a few other things....
     
  28. E-wrecked

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    like a lil luck..and balls. I'm still waiting to see a board which has enough power to really push the QX. If kinc wasn't BS'ing..then this board should. But, he coulda had a test BIOS, or many other things to allow for it. Power is the most commonly lacked necessity tough. :)
     
  29. jamiee

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    Yeah 3.2 - 3.3GHz seems to be my max stable right now as well.
    (not entirely convinced that 3.3GHz is even stable)

    I know my video starts artifacting at around 970MHz for the memory (haven't found the ceiling for the GPU yet).

    I'm thinking it's nearing time to open'er up and get some AS5 on the critical parts. Don't know if it'll help much... but I don't think it would hurt either.
     
  30. Johnksss

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    start with something easy like put a fan under it. that should give you 5 to 10 degrees less heat if placed in the right spot.
     
  31. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yeah i cant get to 3.33 stable. it boots and it fine tell i stress it out. and 3.5 restarts before i can login.
     
  32. Sh1n1ng Forc3

    Sh1n1ng Forc3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe in some benchmark program the 9800MGTX can keep up but in the real world of games and FPS etc it simply cannot match the 4870x2 M. I have see it now first hand.
     
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    Ha! Yeah but that spoils the fun of opening it up and having a look at wutz under the hood ;)
     
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    really, where you see it first hand at?
    dont get me wrong, the 4870 x2 is a nice card, but in reality..it should be smoking a 9800m gtx hands down at all test..and that sir...it's not doing. gaming or benchmarking.
    although with you guys and your price /performance. it's smoking a gtx at that...but then...it's 6 months later, so nvidia already swindled us out of our cash for these over priced hogs...lol

    very very true!

    crack her open and see what she's made of...
     
  35. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    I as5 everything when i get it. Check it out of the box to make sure it actually works, get max temps with stock paste then AS5 that up :D I just figure that 1. The cooler the better and 2. Might as well start getting that AS5 "burnt-in" right off the bat.

    Not to mention when i head to South Africa its not going to be as cool as my 60 degree basement -.-
     
  36. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    yet. (10 chars)
     
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    now how long is yet suppose to be?
     
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    probably by the weekend :)
     
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    cool!
    because that same thing was said about the 3870's. so i was just curious is all. :)
     
  40. ichime

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    Nothing was said about the 3870s. The fact that it got higher 3dmark06 scores than the 9262 systems at the time scared the wits outta the 9262/NVidia guys a bit that they started getting paranoid until they realized the drivers were immature and the 38xx series are more DX9 oriented.
     
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    umm, scared who?
    a few nvidia guys helped those 3870's get to where they are today. and that applies to the 4870's as well.
    you mean like this 20k 3dmark06 score as well?
     
  42. ichime

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    Yeah, a few nVidia guys did...by rubbing it in everyone's faces that the drivers were terrible and it couldn't compete with the current nVidia based systems. This motivated the likes of E-wrecked and Killernotebooks to work on drivers due to the lack of driver support.

    But yeah, let's be real; those guys were scared. Why else would they go into W840-based threads to inquire, then bash the system whenever they can? Heck, I would be kinda scared too if I were drawn to the notebook I bought/own based on the fact that it was the most powerful notebook at the time, and then some notebook out of nowhere comes along posting better numbers in one benchmark.

    Anyways, don't mean to go off-topic as this is the Asus section, but it's tiresome when people suggest that the Whitebook/3870s didn't meet expectations when it were the Sager guys making those expectations in the first place based on one benchmark.
     
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    Lol i got burnt out hangin in the old whitebook thread back in the day lol .I remember that one guy who kept saying the WB was no faster then a 7811 and save your money .cant remember his name now , started with an M i think.
     
  44. Johnksss

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    humm, i think your more or less talking about mastermerek.. he and i are different.

    and it was E wrecked and i spending long nights working on better drivers. over the phone/emails/ pm and the boards.

    and lets not confuse being scared with wanting to know which card is better. not all of us are ati/nvidia haters which allot of you seem to side up on. sorry, im just here to help make the card perform where i think it should be. and if that's above mine, then so be it.

    and since most of these ideas that have gotten both cards to where they are now we're my ideas...not sure how that comes across as someone being scared. flashing both vbios as masters was my idea. and that alone netted a substantial gain in performance for the 4870. so again...how would that be considered scared? i don't get it. i have put in to your cards more than you have and i dont even own any. so imagine if i did...

    well, you got me on all that :confused:
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Thats actually the real bummer john is you contribute more to this thread then any owner and you dont even own the machine lol. I cant really blame you though as last i looked your Owners lounge almost does not exist and im sure you would be there helping many others if people were as active there as they are here .When the M98 comes out im sure your time will shift instantly once someone has one in there possesion :).
     
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    he has contributed more to this thread than anybody else?

    how in the world do you draw that conclusion.
     
  47. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    sigh can't every one get along ?

    why cant we be friend why cant we be friends

    we all have laptops and we like getting higher score shut up and put up(the scores that is ) :p

    thanks for the driver support E, you need to teach me so i can continue
     
  48. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I mean in over all posts he has been here since the beginning and thats not taking anything away from you bro so just chill :). And maybe not every owner but aside from me and you who else is there ?. So lets say he has contributed more then 98% of the owners hows that .We have lots of owners and not so many contribute or alteast thats what i notice .
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    how about we rest this crown of achievement on JOHN VICIOUS and E ---w give a consilation prize QUAD lol
     
  50. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    bahaha thats fine im not looking for prizes and crowns just helping others.
     
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