*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

You'd better believe ill be contributing more then my totally random useless posts once i get a hold of mine, went to my distributor today and they were out of stock, BLAH!

 

yea i hoped so but at least you get a TOY YAYAYAYAYA hope it isn't a crappy one

 

Well.. Just to chime in, I have known john for quite some time now.. And he used to frequent the ocz forum posting his own benches for us to have a comparison to the gtxs. While some may have interpreted it differently, his goal was always to see the ocz unleash it's power. And secondary goal was to make sure his system was a good buy. While there were ATI issues to overcome, john never tried taking that away as a reason. I thank you ichime for pioneering, you john for motivation and brainstorming, and thank my ocz for good times had. Some folks tend to read way too much into these forums, and consider everything to be a challenge..whether personal or not. At the end of the day, week, month, or even year.. We all come here to promote, support, and critique each other..but more importantly ourselves. If there's no bar set, someone has to set it..and personal reasons drive us all to meet or exceed that bar. My point being, this is a great place to learn, grow, and give back. We are all a family who want to succeed, in one manor or another. (enough sap) So, let's continue to have egos, goals, and expectations..or else NBR won't be NBR.

 

^^^^^^exactly what he said

yeah, not looking for prizes either..only happy high performing machines.

nah, i get allot of pm's from the sager threads. and most of the serious issues are still posted with fixes. and theriko/gophn are doing a great job. so is kevin-jack and gansta-one.

waiting on someone to surface with a gtx280m or a gtx260m willing to push it to the limits using vista.

 

hey i do like having the highest t9400 score on ORB

i do make things a competition just to push myself. If it hadn't been for NBR i wouldnt know what i do now i thank every one here because mostly yall are the ones that have tought me the stuff i know now.

JOHN help me alot and E did to

Thanks guys heres to the memorys < >

sad thing is i have only been here 4 months

 

Speaking of egos..

 

Lol E nice post /starts humming we are the champions.

 

Ok, fine. Let's leave it at that.

But you sure the flashing the slave vga to master vga thingy wasn't my idea first?

 

dont make me request a mod to close this thread

 

Mr.moo its your bed time and dont make me tell you again .

 

I gotta say that everyone here no matter how much they won't admit it or not, comes in here with a slight agenda or brand loyalty which is completely human and fine by me. John is clearly is motivating people in here to have the W90 perform better, no matter what his deep inside feelings about a particular brand may be =) Anyway from this ONE thread at the age of 21 I have gone from not knowing what it means to overclock to understanding basic techniques of BIOS flashing master and slave cards, undervolting ect..

 

lets see...since i told it to E (when he had his ocz whitebook) well before you posted your guide..im gonna have to say...ummmmm. yes!
read the post right under yours

 

Just got done with the 1920x1080 maxed out custom vantage run with only 4x AA and I got 5333 GPU score.

 

thanks vicious for changeing the subject

not my freaking bed time !!!!!!!!!!! i stayed up all last night playing online .... i sat int he police station playing lol 6pm-6am

 

lol lets get started on yours then mr full credit is not enough

I was just saying I have countless posts with benchmarks, information, explaining things, and dispelling false post and accusations from others, while I have seen the others just deny it all the way.

Ultimately contributing a lot of bad/false information is what many have done.

If everybody felt that I am not doing anything I can go spend my time doing something else, I just got photoshop CS4 I need to go learn how to use the new features.

I have never had such a tough crowd of people feeding bad vibes like this, but I stuck with it.

If you dont want a factual analyst like me posting facts and real information and would rather just have people claim here say then by fall means I'll let that happen.

 

here are mine.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4741037&postcount=4455


what do you mean police station mr moo???

 

Haha someone has to check him on the ADHD thing once in a while

Love ya Moo!

 

Lol when striker first got his machine this place was only second to hell itself .The devils minions were everywhere but luckily thats changed because the house is in order now , Newdriver installs =check ,Ocing the CPU =check, No lockups on booting =check . So now people cant just drop in take a big dump in the thread then run to another because that stuff is the past.

Your doing a fine job Vicious and im sure there is many who appreciate all your work .

 

is your run the 5500 or the 5000 with the maxed our 4x AA?

ether way its really close now and my cpu was 2.7ghz and gpu clocks 610/955

I think I can beat your 5500 score if I just overclock a bit more, may have to flash my voltage increase bios on there to do it though.

 

Urge to kill going down....

Back to normal lol.

So what do you guys think about my 3.3ghz QX9300 ram limit theory, going to grab 2gb of higher up ram Quad for you cpu?

 

Well, I had that idea for a long time too, but like E-wrecked, I was scared to brick one of the cards (or both) as this was my first time flashing. Now that I had three card in my possession, thought I would give it a go.

Nonetheless, the only thing flashing did was add a CrossfireX tab in CCC, which allows you to enable and disable Crossfire directly, rather than indirectly via disabling Catalyst A.I. I experienced no performance gain over the regular setup (ran 3dmark06, Vantage, couple of CS:S and FC2 runs (actually the latter kinda had a decrease, but probably due to background programs).

I think the improvements you're claiming to see on the W90 after flashing the slave card to a master card is due to drivers mostly.

I still wonder though why manufacturers go with the Master-Slave setup still....

 

actually i am going to take your suggestion of single sticks at a time first just to see if its one stick holding the whole thing back then move on from there. i really dont want to spend more money then i already dont have lol . if i went and bought one stick and found it was better that means id atleast need one more lol and the cycle continues .$$$ the Qx9300 will be here on thursday which is also my B-day so if it arrives on time its going to be a good day.

 

It was all drivers simply because 8.12s didnt have crossfire profiles for many of the current games. In some situations my games framerates more then doubled because of it . I could not be happier about that.

 

my brother is a cop and they have super fast dsl there so i stayed there his whole shift and played games all night ..... sat in the waiting room just playing games lol.

my ADHD is ok ...... just keeps me going

 

If your ever stuck in that situation, many times you can rename the game .exe to a game that does have a profile and it works fine.

Just a emergency backup

 

ya i did that with SLI before.

 

it is because of the bios, now the drivers work. only have to see what happens if they revert back. look at ken from gentech. his is still stock. that's why he got the 10.2. now if he we're to....flash...im thinking at least 11.2. (well..im speculating here, but it should be above me.)

and if ya listen from time to time..you CAN beat me..

 

The bios flash(new drivers) as far as i remember had 0 influence on my Vantage run. i ran vantage again a few minutes ago and got 10727 . i am thinking that the ATI cards are overclocking themselves though with that VGA turbo gear thingy because if i raise my clocks to say 580/880 the score is exactly the same .

 

That 10.2k GPU score was with the CPU was clocked at 3ghz, which is pretty much in line to what the X1 guys are getting.

 

yeah. and quadzilla pulled a 10.3 stock as well...im still a bit boggled..with stock starting scores. they are very impressive, but when the over clocking starts.....you would think they could hit 11.5 like you suggested earlier... i see we all still have lots of work yet or yes friends...there is an or...asus has cut us off at the pass..... if this is the case...looks like one of you is gonna have to be the test dummy yet again.... if i had one, i would be it...but i dont..

exactly why i like to run vantage. way to hard to flub scores.

that master/master may not fool vantage, but it may fool everything else...and in that case...it's for the better..better gaming and visuals.

 

your still cpu bound, and will until you get a faster cpu.

look up all the test i did, the score grew with my cpu speed, its a cpu bound benchmark. now extreme however shows big improvement with the gpu overclock.

 

yes, but ken has a qx9300....

run vantage with one core enabled/performance mode
and lets see what you get.
reason?
because if you run just about any game with one core, the game will take a serious performance hit, being cpu bound.
just humor me on this one....

 

yes I know, but it doesnt use all 4 cores for the gpu tests only the cpu ones.

its the same as a dual core. you already know that though I hope.

just look at my vantage runs, my cpu score is high but gpu score = same as X1 owners with same clock speeds

this topic should be long behind us now that there is a large cpu bottlenck for dual 4870 on the low res performance vantage test, and even a decent sized on for high mode.

extreme maxed out is even still showing a minor change to cpu speed but not very much. If you want to test gpu clocks/overclocks/drivers you need to be testing 1920x1080 extreme maxed out custom.

 

*facepalm*

i give.

other news:
ichime here is a gtx280m clock run.

and i wont be sold on this till i see them over clock it past 1100 mhz on memory or close to it. nvidia was talking some max memory at 950...so we shall see...

 

Umm single 280m is over 10k? Seriously? Or did I read something wrong.

 

1 card vantage performance run on the W90

615/955
2.7ghzz

gpu score 6829
cpu score 10723

total P7511

if that is a single 280m its killing the 4870 by about 50% on the fps scores in the gpu tests.

also you can use a bit of speculation and assume that if you got 100% scaling like you usually see with crossfire & sli in 3dmark that the 4870x2 with both cards turned on is capable of about 14k on the gpu score if your cpu could keep up.

 

that was to simulate the dual gtx280m's since my cards are suppose to be them..underclocked and all minus the extra shaders and all.

my bottle neck score vs my un bottle necked score.
i use microsoft to put my cpu at 2.0 ghz (6x multiplier)
ran normal with two cores @ 3.0 ghz


ran normal with one core @ 3.0 ghz

ran with 2 cores @ 2.0 ghz

ran with 4 cores @ 2.0 ghz


so what do we get from this?
nothing. the cpu maxes out at each spot on the list of runs.
now if it was like 500 to a 1000 points..fine..bottle neck..but a measly 100 points...id hardly call that bottle neck. (could be only nvidia cards)

 

I think you meant gpu

but yeah its close, but its not the same hardware. you are losing about 200 points there from 2ghz to 3ghz and different cards require different cpu dependencies, also sli/xfire takes more than a single card.

our benches are getting confusing cross posting all this stuff from different systems & settings. I think you should be placing what system & what settings including specs before each benchmark.

a few things to take in mind, that was your desktop cpu right? so its clock for clock more powerfull than this little moble quad im using for my benches. plus the fact its different cards/setup.

It seems to be that something with this 4870x2 setup is eating up excessive cpu overhead to sync the two cards when in crossfire.

also looks like you just started to hit your bottleneck at 2ghz, if you can drop it lower say to 1.6ghz I think you will see a much larger loss for that 400mhz than you did with the whole 1ghz from 3ghz to 2ghz.

 

no confusion. just showing what a multiplier down clock does vs your fsb over clock and how much is lost between the two.

no, i mean cpu since it's the bottle neck. not my gpus, remember.

never said you didn't test one and your paragraph didn't advertise it either...
and depending on which one you go with..it's about that (30 percent) price wise, but gb wise..not even close...
i move way to many files and generally have like 20 windows open at any given time and my laptop is faster than my desktop...it's sort of making me a bit annoyed at the moment. since my desktop should be faster.

side note:
we are only pointing out the performance portion of ssd drives we already know they cost to much($350.00) was in my range. we get it. we're just saying that they are hella faster than your fastest laptop hard drive. (the real mlc or slc drives that dont stutter)

 

Im gonna get a new Wacom instead of an SSD, since I do very little actual loading of anything and everything I use already pops up instantly I would save far more time and be more efficient with a tablet.

When I used to use my tablet every day it about a weeks time I noticed I was doing tasks faster than with the mouse, you learn the pixel map of the tablet and can instantly move the pen tip to where you want to be on the monitor and the cursor just jumps there isntead of having to scroll with a mouse.

It saved me time for sure, but the real time saver will come when I do photoshop of course, being able to use pen pressure for opacity and brush size can easily cut 10 minutes off of a 45 minute project and thats more time saved than an SSD can save me in a week.

The new Intuos4 6x8 is like $350 though

I may settle for the Intuos3 4x6 for $109

 

ok, im all ears...what's that??Intuos4 6x8

ok, im caught up...


yep, this is probably true.
and like i keep telling people...we are only as good as our tools. and if that intuos4 6x8 is going to make you more money in the long run..i say save up and grab it!
just getting jobs done on time or ahead of schedule is very good for business
unless you get paid by the hour and like to linger around...lol

 

I photoshop for fun, same being here on the forums. Dont make any money off of it. If i had the time I think I would freelance as a photographer for some extra cash though.

Simply not possible since I work all night and watch my kids all day.

On that note though the Intuios 4 is a perfect match for the W90, both function & looks. I think I will sit about on it for awhile until they are up cheaper on ebay and then try to grab one with cashback. Between now and then I should start using the 4x5 graphire 4 again, though its got a 4:3 aspect so its not going to work too great on a 16:9 screen.

 

*crickets chirping*

you lost me right after..on that note...lol

 

lol just saying the intuos4 looks like it belongs with the w90 like an accessory made for it due to looks:



for aspect the old graphire 4 I have is 4"x5" its designed to work with the old monitors before widescreen caught on, the newer intuos3 is wider made to work well with 16:10 screens, but now the W90 sports 16:9 wich is even wider, so while my graphire will still 1:1 pixel map the monitor to its surface area it means that its going to move much faster left/right than up/down due to the difference in ratios.

Ironicly enough the Intuos4 is even wider than the Intuos3 it almost looks like it was made for a 16:9 screen.

 

aaaaah, i can see my self using that. to get people to sign their invoices electronically...would it also work for that?

 

yes, as long as the program supports it. it works for digitally signing stuff in office word. I think adobe reader does too.

it does a lot of other nifty things too, when you install the drivers vista or win 7 automatically turn on an extra set of features not normally on just for tablets.

you can scroll up/down or go back/forward on web pages just with pen gestures, it makes a mouse pretty much obsolete. Just resist the urge to play a FPS game with it

 

Wish I could actually get one . . .


W90 that is

 

yes, i kind of like that idea... i use excel so it would work

sure you can...just hit that buy it now button on newegg or talk to the guys at gentech or xoticpc....now shipping might be a problem...

 

no need to spend $350 on an intuos4 though thats high end stuff for graphics professionals, get yourself a Wacom Bamboo, or take advantage of this deal:

http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-UPTZ431...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1239785923&sr=8-4

the Intos3 is still overkill but since its a good deal its worth it.

I'll see if excel has handwriting mode for you soon as I bring my tablet to work, I'll do it tomorrow night as long as I remember.

 

i see a cheap one for 50 bucks. only because i wouldn't be doing anything fancy.