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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Johnksss

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    yeah. and his machine just sold as well...
    have you found out if that machine will allow you to blind flash yet???
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Did you get the A1 with blu ray drive ? or the VP ? . ive read people had issues with the Blu ray one but i have never really had any problems per say with my drive the standard DVD one . Id take a look at the disc make sure its not scratched or dirty(obvious stuff) if not and you have you access to another computer in your home you could always use network sharing and share the DVD drive from another comp or download imgburn and create an iso of the Callof duty disc on your machine, then use something like daemon tools and mount the iso and install it that way . it may let you make an ISO of it but is having problems installing the actual game. theres lots of options im just throwing out a couple for you :).
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Blind flash wouldnt do me any good if i dont have a bios to flash back to :).
     
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    The drive is still going and the disc is still spinning, it just doesnt seem like it is progressing any.
     
  5. Johnksss

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    it made a copy of your bios the first time it flashed. you only need to find it and rename it.

    the one with the bootblock, i cant tell...it could of course be the wrong bios or you need to input the full line of code to flash it....that's why i was asking about the blind flash..
     
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    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Was expecting more activity, but I guess the BIOS seemed to be limiting things. I would think after Vicious' single GPU vantage run beat my old 4850 card (granted his report was accurate) and this limitation of Quad's QX, one could attribute some of the W90 issues to just poor power architecture diagram by the BIOS. Some people say the same thing with the Whitebook too.

    Btw Quad, does the BIOS tell you the multiplier stage of your CPU or have it greyed out? If the latter is the case, it may be possible to unlock it.
     
  7. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    No details on the multiplier in the bios screen just [email protected] nothing like 9.5x etc.

    I guess i need to look into something to back up my bios . AMI .
     
  8. Johnksss

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    i could be wrong...so your saying it didn't do a backup first? then flash?
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I never made it that far in the process because when i pick the bios and it says are you sure you want to flash, if i pick yes then its going to either do one of two things. 1.Straight flash the bios 2.Ask if i want to back up the bios before flashing . So im going to have risk it just to try and i dont want to risk it unless i knew i already had a backup prior.
     
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    well, do a full drive search first for all flies *.bak *.rom *. what ever they use as a file name extension...i haven't used ami in a very long time...it may have done it anyways...can't hurt to look...
     
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    Isn't there a vista program for download to flash the bios? Thought I saw it as a download from asus.. I'm sure that's what you are using. Call and harass asus.
     
  12. Johnksss

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    which bios is on the whitebook?
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ya ive done searches for .bak and .rom also i can either use the win utility or just flash the bios thru the actual bios itself as it has a built in utility there . If i tried to flash the old bios thru windows though it wont let me as it says its older then the current etc and the actual flash button doesnt light up .I dont think its making a backup because i will probably have to make it to the next step of flasing before it "may" ask me to make a backup .

    ive also downloaded seperate programs to try and make a backup and it wont let me get anywhere because it says i dont have a AFU bios or something to that degree.
     
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    Have u checked inside the folder where the windows flasher extracts to? There's likely a .ini file that allows you to enable(1) or disable(0) the version checker, or enable advanced settings. At least Winphlash does...
     
  15. Quadzilla

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    Nothing of that sort in the folder .

    The utility is called Winflash though.
     
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    Tebbo Newbie

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    I have few quick questions for anyone who feels like answering them.

    1. Opinions on the build quality of the w90. How sturdy would you describe it? Do you always feel completely at ease closing it up and taking it somewhere? Are the screen hinges tight/strong enough to hold the screen firmly in place without any sort of unreasonable wobbling (theres going to be a bit im sure with such a big screen). Also heat. Does it get overly hot ever?

    2. The RAM. Is the ram fast enough? Will DDR2 be simply so-so in another 1-2 years? Does anyone know if it can be pushed beyond 6 gigs max?

    3. Lastly is it possible to buy it with a q9000 and down the line upgrade it myself to a qx9300 or something to that effect?

    I'm the kind of person who when buying something looks to be more or less on the cutting edge so the thing stays pertinent for a while. I don't want to find myself in a pickle down the line when every program is 64bit and capable of using quad cores and regretting going for something cheaper at the time I bought it.

    and yes i've read the review here and i've read any other info I can get I just want first hand accounts and impressions from as many people as I can before deciding to spend so much money.
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    1. Most sturdy notebook i have ever owned and i have owned alot of them over the years .built like a tank . Screen and hinges so solid its not even funny . no flex on the screen etc .

    2. I dont believe DDR3 would have brought that much to the table interms of performance .

    3.Already upgraded to a Qx9300 so thats confirmed it works :).
     
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    This may be a dumb question, but how exactly do I get Turbo Gear to work on my w90?
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    The little green box in the right corner . Click on it then go to the settings box and click how ever high you want to overclock it .
     
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    My problem is that when I click on Turbo Gear, nothing happens. It doesnt open up.
     
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    Sword and Scales Notebook Consultant

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    My W90 got here today. Sweet Lord in Heaven...this thing is big. I love it though, it's exactly what I wanted. I'm going to go through and tweak it up and get rid of the bloatware today, maybe do some gaming...
     
  22. Johnksss

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    are you running 64 bit?
     
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    211 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Me? Yes. Any suggestions/comments?
     
  24. Sword and Scales

    Sword and Scales Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, Home Premium
     
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    i thought i read somewhere that it didn't work under 64 bit...could be wrong though.
     
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    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    quad, i don't think you are going to get past 3.5-3.8ghz. because of the power supply. remember even though you have 230watts, you have to also count the your cards and everything else also.

    buy kill-a-watt(i think that is what it is called) and see how much power it is drawing.

    i should get one to to see how much mines is drawing. in a thread somewhere it was said the whitebook maxed out draws 180w. but i don't know if that was stocked or overclocked.
     
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    Working under Ultimate64 here....
     
  28. ViciousXUSMC

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    I have experience editing bios, one of the easy things to do would be change that old bios to a newer date/version number to prevent that older bios error.
     
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    No, its using as much power now as it will when he overclocks it higher, the volt increase we are looking for is not even a whole single volt, there is room to spare in the power adapter.
     
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    W90 comes loaded with Home Premium x64 (6gb ram, so needs x64 to use it)

    If you do not see turbogear try starting the app from you programs in the start menu under one of the two asus folders, the task bar icon may not always be there, also go download the newest version off the Asus site to both ensure its installed and that its up to date.

    Also make sure you run it as Administrator.
     
  31. Quadzilla

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    Our power adapter has plenty of room to go and like i said before some companys rate these things way under what there actually capable of and vice versa IE gateways :).My machine and Adapter barely get even warm(even with the new [email protected]) after hours of gaming so power aint the issue believe you me its just a voltage thing. As for turbo and 64 bit yep works fine :) so not sure what was up with yours (212) you could always just uninstall the program and reinstall it either from the drivers disc(the white one) or just download it from Asus drivers section . I think the MSI were the ones that didnt work under 64 bit which made 0 sense and they came with 4gigs of ram and 32 bit OS ,Would have made even less sense coming with 6gigs of ram and 32bit :).

    Vicious if you have any good ideas about editing the bios or backing it up feel free to pm me or post it here . I read some where with the AMI bios you need to cut off the last 2 bytes of info and edit those as thats where all the info is stored, cant remember all the details of it, was late and i just wasnt ready to wrap my head around that . Im in 0 hurry to go bricking my machine and everything is running to well to go and do something stupid, so i just have to be patient i guess for the moment.
     
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    Hope Vic doesn't mod the BIOS like he did the drivers ;) kiddin.. Kinda
     
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    you guys are right. don't know what i was thinking when i typed that. maybe it was the msi thread.
     
  34. rjod0342

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    Newegg has w90vp-X1 as a deactivated item now.

    Now they have w90vp-X2. 2 ghz quad... basically A1 without blue ray and 2nd hard drive.

    I assume X1 will be going to retail chains soon or newegg ended its exclusive rights.
     
  35. JoeCanuck

    JoeCanuck Notebook Guru

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    Okey dokey...I've read through this thread and I get most of it but I do get lost on occasion and I've poured over V. limit breaker guide. I just need some things clarified.

    I take it that the ASUS bios has to be tweeked to up the voltage needed for higher stable overclocks of the cpu.

    I believe V. has his 9000 o/c'd to 2.75 using setfsb...correct so far?

    The video bios change is to allow for the install of the 9.4 drivers...also correct?

    How easy is it to flash the video bios back should I have to RMA my machine? (which should make it here by next Friday).

    thanks.
     
  36. Quadzilla

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    Flashing the bios is a no brainer back and forth for the video cards.

    Hopefully eventually Asus will address the lack of voltage going to the Quadcores . As for going higher then 2.75ghz on a Q9000 it might be possible but hard to say till we can get more Volts behind it . Its already a massive overclock though so he may be right at the edge .
     
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    Sure would be great if somebody stateside would call Newegg and try to find out what's up with the X1. Anybody?
     
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    Strangely im sorta hoping they do away with the Whole dual core models and focus on the Quad stuff . Buying an A1 and overlclocking it IMHO is a much better move then the X1(I own an X1) is . Plus if you go with Gentech or Xotic youll be able to deal with them directly if you have issues within the first few weeks of purchase compared to the EGG which is like having no help at all basically . If i had to do it all over again the A1 for me would be a no brainer.
     
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    I'm not too worried about going higher than 2.75...I've been living with a 2.0 pentium m for almost 4 years now. I'm not really doing anything that requires much more at the moment.

    On a completely different note, who knows of a good, cheap drive ghost program?
     
  40. Quadzilla

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    If you have a seagate drive your machine(W90s come with seagates) then you get acronis free and its called Seagate disc wizard .
     
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    Hi,
    I'm looking to get my first laptop this summer, and I'm strongly considering the w90. I was wondering if anyone had tried this laptop with a t9900 in it? The stock clock speed is 3.06 ghz I think. Also, would turbo gear recognize this processor and take it to ~3.5 ghz?
    Thanks.
     
  42. Warhammer40k

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    Just one thing regarding the EGG and the X1/X2. I have found no ill experience having purchased through the EGG. I have had to RMA two (2) W90VpX1's and I do not deal with the EGG at all, you deal directly with ASUS.

    Why imo is this still better than going through Gen or X, because the unit goes to ASUS (pre-paid) overnight not sure about Gen or X. I have had nothing but a 100% positive experience when dealing with ASUS regarding my RMA's. In the first instance I received a DOA replacement i.e. new unit and it was overnighted back to me after only having been with ASUS a day or two (can't remember exactly). I expect another DOA replacement back shortly (overnight of course).

    So all in all I am not sure why folks think the others are better to deal with than the EGG because you really never have to deal with the EGG anyway, when there is an issue you deal with ASUS and they have been awesome.
     
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    I appreciate the input Quadzilla. I guess it's psychological. I've been running an Opteron in my desktop @3GHz+ since 2006 so it pains me to drop 2400 bones on a 2GHz machine. I guess I need to keep telling myself "four cores, man, it's four cores!" I'll sleep on it.
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Warhammer its awesome you have had so much luck with the EGG but from everything ive read its not always that smooth for everyone . Now im only basing this on things i have read, not personal experiences .Other reason i would go Gentech or Xotic is because they are here on the forums and can answer questions thru PMs and just give you general help that the Egg cant provide and its all free. I think you know as well as the next guy not everyone is a computer tech so these guys can be very helpful on those occasions. Now to me the A1 with the Bluray and extra harddrive and a Q9000 that OCs to 2.75ghz easily is just a great bargain for the few bucks extra your paying . When i bought mine i thought we would have been stuck at 2.3 OC on the Quad for sometime but i got Setfsb going sooner then expected so the idea the X1 was going to be a better out of the box experience was very very short lived to me.
     
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    its not 2ghz though so you can just get that idea out of your mind as Overclocking it is so easy and 2.75ghz is no slouch :). Plus when you look at Vicious benchmarks even at 2.3ghz the highest you can overclock just with the turbo gear software (before Setfsb) the numbers in almost every game are very close to mine when i had the Dual [email protected] . The cards are doing the majority of the Work when it comes to gaming just remember that .
     
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    Roger. I've been following that. I read Vicious's guide and it does seem pretty easy. More than likely that's what I'll do. Thanks again.
     
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    i wasn't saying our power supplies are garbage. i was just saying i wonder if it was at it's limit in terms of wattage. what is your voltage, just wondering. i am at 1.315. i can undervolt to 1.300 but i haven't tried anything else. i notice without rmclock, my computer is mpre stable and faster then with it. i am going to try cpuid again. tonight, i am going to try to put more voltage in it and see what happens. i am also going to try to use setfsb from stock clocks and see how far i get.
     
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    Wow, 2.75 from 2.0? Is that thing still stable? Can You play far cry 2 at highest settings? No right? I just bought one A1 but still waiting for delivery.
     
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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I know you werent saying they were garbage nor did i imply that you did . Right now my Voltage is at 1.25 which is so far away from 1.30 its not even funny. My dual core was at 1.265 and let me hit 3.6 ghz . Now going from quad to dual or vice versa is going to yield different results when it comes to overclocking and how much voltage is needed, but if i could even get the same voltage as i was getting out of my dual core i would be a very happy man.
     
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    I'm having a hard time deciding between the HDX 18 and the W90VP-A1
    The HDX is almost 3 pounds less,has longer battery life has a QX9300 (for 3000$ budget) 8gb ddr3,blueray burner and the W90VP has much better gpu's than on the hdx. does anyone know how does the w90 screen compare to the hdx18? It's a big expense and it's really hard for me to decide which to get.
     
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