~G1s Owners Lounge~

By the way, has anyone overclocked their G1S CPU ? I know G1Sn is slightly different, but it just doesn't want to co-operate with setfsb. Even a slight change in fsb and all kinds of weird stuff start happening.

 

I think I saw couple of users doing so with setFSB, but it's really not necessary, 2GHz does fine, mine is 2.6GHz, but I limit it to 2.2 when I play games, it stays cooler and does the job

 

Mine has a T7250 2GHZ and 2MB, so could use a bit more punch to go with the 9500 and to reduce load from the GPU as the CPU runs a lot more cooler.
I've run orthos for ~45 mins etc and everything works fine until the GPU needs to do something, then I get a "graphics driver stopped responding and recovered". Even a 0,5mhz change to the fsb causes this.

Here's more: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4627792#post4627792

 

I tried taking the T7300 in my G1SX1 to 2.2GHz (up from 2GHz) and it crashed as soon as I tried anything even slightly intensive...

 

Well...I prefer buying the G50 instead of upgrading my G1S more, I already did enough adding cooler fan, changing thermal paste etc. It did well so far (hope it will do more) one year of extensive working - I game on it, I code and develop stuff on it, it's working 24/7, I travel with it sometimes...it's a great machine, but don't ask too much of it

 

Does anyone of you run Ubuntu 8.04 or Ubuntu 8.10 on the G1S and use vpnc to connect to Cisco VPNs?

In 8.04 that works just fine for me, but in 8.10 the VPN kicks me out every few minutes. Anyone having the same problem?

I hope they fix this with 9.04...

EDIT: This happens over wireless LAN. Never tried it over ethernet.

 

I was wondering if people can help with a few questions. This thread is so long I’m having trouble locating specific answers to my questions. So I’m sorry if this has been asked before. First off back when I was a regular lurker here about late 2007 the G1S had the 50% CPU problem. The only solution out at the time was some program; I downloaded but never use it, something clock. When I had the program active I would see my CPU toggle between 1.2 and 2.2 mhrz. Anyway has ASUS addressed the problem is there fix out there now? Another question I have is regarding the BIOS. I have never updated the BIOS. Is this something that I should do? I’m planning on adding more RAM and getting a new HDD. I have never had any issues with my computer so far, and I read that you shouldn’t update your BIOS if you feel there is nothing wrong with your computer. I think I will try this 3DMark program and see what that tells me. Maybe my computer has been under performing all along but I didn’t know.

 

The latest bios is version 300 and it is a must. As for the rest of your problems, do a clean install of at least Vista x64 (W7 x64 recommended) and you should be just fine. I have 4GB RAM in mine and it never gets above 69% full in Windows 7 and I'm a big time gamer and engineering student, so I'm an intensive user.

 

The program was probably RMClock. Unless I understand you wrongly, then the CPU is toggling between 1.2 and 2.2 GHz (not MHz ). That is normal behavior. It will run at 1.2 at idle to save power/heat and then clock up to higher speeds when under load. That's Intel Speedstep.

If you have a very old BIOS it's may be a good idea to upgrade,depending on what improvements have been added since your version. This, unfortunately, is usually difficult to tell with ASUS, since they have very cryptic BIOS release notes -- at best.

 

I have updated to BIOS 300. Funny thing though. Useing RMClock the toggling between 1.2 and 2.2 no longer happens now the CPU sits at 2.01 all the time. Will it go up to 2.2 if I run a game or other CPU intentsive program (how would I check), or will it remain at 2.01 all the time now?

 

That's strange and actually not good. Perhaps you are using a high-performance power profile from either RMClock, or under Windows Vista. Try changing to a "power saving" or "balanced" profile, or else adjusting the power profile "minimum CPU" speed to a lower value.

Also don't place a lot much faith in RMClock readings, they are not always accurate for new chipsets; if this is a G1S however, they should be accurate.

 

I'm not sure what your saying. How would I find my power profile? I use power4gear at it's highest setting. This what you mean?

 

Yes, the fact that you are using the Max Performance profile is probably the cause for which the processor does not downclock. In desktop work, actually much lower clocks for the CPU would suffice most of the time; so by forcing it to run at a large speed you are unnecessarily heating up the computer and putting stress on the cooling system. Add to that the inefficient GPU cooling and nVidia GPU problems with the G1S.

In desktop work, I strongly recommend to use a balanced power profile, which allows the CPU to downclock when its full power is not needed (not sure what the name would be in Power4Gear, Quiet Office or Balanced or something along that line; you can also configure the minimum CPU speed of your current power profile to be lower).

High Performance should be reserved for gaming etc.

 

You have educated me once again I thought the only reason you wouldn't have your power settings maxed is because you are trying to save battery power. Since I always have my NB plugged in I use the max performance setting all the time. No I know that quite office is best when not gaming. My temps are 55/64 CPU/GPU while on this setting.

 

Glad I could help! Anything that drops temperatures on a G1S is useful.

 

I think my DVD/CD-Rom in my G1S is on its way out. It takes forever to 'read' a disc and makes all sorts of noises. Any idea where I can purchase a replacement?
I also know that Asus has come out with new and improved gaming laptops. Anyone here know anything that is 'comparable' to the G1S? Looking for one that is on 15" or smaller....

Thanks,

 

I boosted my 3DMark06 score again!

This time, I shut off all live statistics apps I had running and spoofed my 8600m into an 8600 GTS desktop card.

Results:



5038

 

Nice score you have there, hidavi.
I would probably be cautious not to push your GPU too hard as the 8600M GT in the G1S model is quite prone to overheating/failure. If you can manage to keep your GPU load temps below 90C, I'd say that should be fine.

 

Below 96c is considered safe. It rarely hits above 95c.

 

does anyone know where to purchase the replacement lid for the g1s-a1 mine is all scratched and i want a new one also what is the part number.(the top lid for the lcd screen.)

 

regarding to this image, I seem to have problems removing fan so I could clean the dust off. I've read couple guides about cleaning gpu fan ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=143168 ) but this guide wont apply to g1s... atleast I think so.
g1s gpu seems to have only one screw and I've removed it(fan moves a bit after this) but I dont wanna use any unnecessary force to get it off. Is there any tricks removing that fan? Im afraid breaking that bronze colored "tumbler" that is on the down left side of gpu if you look that picture.

 

The fan is attached to the GPU with a heat-pipe, no way to remove it without tearing the whole thing apart. See this picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26731967@N07/2506303961/in/set-72157605149783571/

Taking the laptop apart isn't that hard however, if you really need to do it. Changing the thermal pastes would be recommended during the process as it lowers your temps way more than cleaning the dust.

I'd just blow some compressed air into the fan to get it clean, though.

 

Yeah I agree...I've opened mine couple of times without any guide. You just make a simple diagram which screw from where, cuz they are different lengths.

 

There's a way to remove the output radiator only without disassembling the whole unit, you remove only the screws on that side where the radiator stands, the two screws that are holding the radiator and the screws that are holding the CPU...though it still voids the warranty.

 

Can anyone answer my question?

 

http://estore.asus.com/shop/

 

thanks dood

 

So I sent in my G1S after getting the now-famous black screen problem on 3/24/09. I finally decided to call and make sure they even received it since the RMA number is only valid for 30 days. The lady told me that I get to get a replacement laptop and that I'd be getting an email with the specs within a couple days! Even though it's going to take over a month to get my laptop back, I am very pleased that they took care of me even with it being out of warranty. It looks like I will still be buying Asus products in the future due to this positive experience!

 

Hi!

Quick question: My Asus G1S got back from RMA (still as an Asus G1s, but with a new motherboard). It's on BIOS 300, and the new motherboard has the high pitched CPU noise problem that some users reported.

I have 4 gig of RAM in there. Those should still work with BIOS 205, right? The Asus download site quotes "support for penryn cpu" as the only change from 205 to 300.

205 doesn't have the cpu noise issue, right?

 

asus g1s
t7500 2,2ghz
2gb memory
geforce nvidia 8600m GT 256
drivers from laptopvideo2go 185.20

Rmoclock on "maximal performance"
With Riva tuner clocks overclocked to 500/1400/780 core/shader/mem
Laptop cleaned properly week ago (and it worked a lot)
using silverstones noble breezer sst-nbo1nb
fan changed year ago by asus

almost all asus bloatwares uninstalled
different tweaks done by using guides from this site(not sure which ones)

gpu idle temp 76c
cpu idle temp 55c
gpu temp at highest peak 97c
cpu temp at highest peak 71c

3dmark06 points @ 1280x1024
ASTONISHING
3460 points

SM 2.0 Score 1381
SM 3.0 Score 1263
cpu score 1889

(during this test riva tuner was using "performance 3d" and didnt drop clocks)

So, what goes wrong? After reading other posts Im pretty sure I should get over 4k easily

edit: I've noticed that pretty often during playing games, gpu clocks drop down eventho heat aint that high. During that time rivatuner is using "low power 3d" clocks and battery shows 99%. Only way to fix this is to reboot.

 

still looking for help to my previous post (bump)

 

you got a bad G1S

 

can I get like a bit better answer? thats not helping me at all

 

The only better response I can offer you is for you to change the thermal pastes and mod your case some.

 

Belga, try using another set of VGA drivers. Often times, different drivers will yield different results.

 

What do you guys think about the official nVidia drivers from the homepage? Is anyone but me using those, or is everyone else still using optimized laptopvideo2go drivers? Does anyone have any performance comparison for the G1S?

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On an unrelated topic, I just put an Intel X25-M 80GB in my G1S, and IT IS AWESOME! If you want to do something good for your laptop, get one of these!

 

Not sure if you solved this. In such a situation I would just clean the fan blades with Q-tips, with some alcohol or very little water on them. Try to get to the radiator too.

I am not sure about what performance you should get with those clocks, so I can't comment on that.

However, note that G1S downclocks when reaching 93degrees or thereabouts, as far as I can remember; so that may be the reason for which you see "low power 3d" clocks (the mid-range power profile). As David suggests, you could try other drivers.

Also your temperatures seem unfortunately pretty typical for the G1S, due to bad cooling performance.

 

Yeah, his temps are "normal" but if he invests some time a few a few bucks, he can get his GPU idle temp down from 76c to 67c. Mine used to idle at 70c and now it idles at 61c. It never reaches the safe temp of 96c, even when overclocked, running through 3DMark06 three times.

It used to though.

 

I broke the DC jack pin, what pin do I need to replace it?
any name or serialnumber appreciated
thx in advance

 

My G1S blackscreened on boot today. The best thing is, I'm fresh out of warranty.

I'm done with nVidia!

 

That's a bad situation... You could try to contact them and explain that the fault is due to the bad nVidia GPU, which was expected to fail -- maybe they're willing to help you even though you're out of warranty. Unlikely I know, but there is nothing to lose...

 

I already talked to the (German) Asus Support when i sent the notebook in about 2 months ago. I told them about the nvidia issues, but they denied knowing of any problems.

They just replaced my G1S motherboard with a different G1S motherboard. Apparantly because they ran out of G1Sn motherboards. I wonder why that might be...

This is just one big screw-over for all nvidia card owners.

I'm switching to not gaming on my new notebook (intel X4500HD integrated graphics), and maybe someday getting a desktop with an ATI card.

Nvidia is dead to me....

 

hi guys, i rma my dead g1s on early june.
It been around 6 weeks since then and i kept calling them everyweek for status update.

The reason they give is waiting for the mobo from taiwan because of shortage. 6 weeks? really? ?

I desperately need my laptop for my studies. I've read that some of the users
get g50vt for replacement. Am i qualify for that replacement?

 

My GPU died as well, luckily 2 weeks before warranty ended. I RMA'd it and called them yesterday, they are waiting for mainboard from taiwan as well...
They said this could take 15 workdays, but from the experiences here on the forum i suspect that it will take longer.
I can be sure that it will be a g1sn mainboard with a non faulty GPU, right?

 

I think you only qualify for a replacement if you have had three unsuccessful repairs of the notebook.

I would advise you to explicitly make that point in your communications with ASUS.

 

My G1s is out of warranty on the 27th ;-) I sent it in last month because I was getting artifacts, like snowy screen on occasion, for the past 6 month-- Also BSOD's every other week or so.. Not broken, but not working like it use to.

Long story short -- I sent a detailed written explanation of what I was going on along with my bill of sale to show date purchased so they knew I had warranty still..

They ( California service center) sent it back with no paper in the box telling me what they did .. they had permission to wipe the drives, which they didn't -- It looked as it they had not done anything to my system - they didnt double box it and it was open on the flapped end without tape -2 day shipping, not overnight like the agreement I purchased the unit under .
.. I sent it doubleboxed, bubblewrapped, original packing ---

Gentech was nice enough to followup FOR me , because Georgina in Customer Service nor my tech rep could figure out what exactly they did while it was in for service. ---
bottom line
They added thermal paste to the GPU -- ... ... ... ... ... Is that a fix for a GPU with artifacts and bsod's?

Here I sit , with more artifacts , awaiting another RMA this week ---

Want to take bets on how they will handle it ?

2 year free warranty is not what it use to be, 2 yrs ago. My first RMA with the G1s was handled perfect and I was impressed. That was over 18 mnths ago, however. Time changes all things.

P.s Gentech is amazing for helping me,, and they were not even my original re-seller for the G1s. Ken Lee is just a great business person!

 

Over a month ago -- Georgina in Customer Service told me those mobo's would take 6-8 weeks to get in , which is why they didn't replace mine that was sent in ,, - They didn't want me to wait that long , since I already waited over 3 weeks for a replacement W90vp the month before that ! LOL

See a pattern here, anyone?

 

Meaning they replaced ur g1s with w90p because didn't want you to wait?

 

On todays drivers i believe the card is set to decrease performance thus not overheating when it passes 95 ceclius, that said 95 is ok, 96 is not! If your card was running at 97 for a longer amount of time it would explain it. I suggest reverting to older drivers like the 167 and 174 if you want to "unlock" the temperature, beware i had my card at 115 celcius with one of those drivers (cant remember which tho..).

I suggest testing your score at STOCK clocks first and check the heat. 475/700, you should get about 3900 points.

Also read up on this thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=146088

i tell all g1s users to do so, not just cos i wrote it, but because you learn a LOT.

The last driver i overclocked with was the 175.63 where i scored 4948 points at 520/820 using ATI tool. I know it can perform even better with Riva Tuner as you can also clock the shader. I dont have any 3dmark numbers on this OC, but you could always try:
544 / 1325 / 826


If im not mistaken i believe the max i ever pulled out of my 8600 GT was following clocks:

546 / 1390 / 829 - but it wouldn't run stable for more than an hour at a time.

 

no, no,, sorry about the misunderstanding ---

My OTHER notebook, a W90vp had waiting issues for repair also. They replaced it with the same model when it came in stock from Taiwan which took 3 weeks.


They did replace my G1s with a G50vt-x1 as of this week..
It's a wonderful notebook and I couldn't be happier. The screen has an odd resolution compared to the G1s, but it's processor and GPU are excellent.