Asus 1201N & 1201HA Leaked Specs

Could someone else download a copy of Everest and check to see if there processor is speedstep enabled. I have read that the N330 does support it. But I have never been able to get CPUZ to display anything other than the max 12x multiplier (it should display whatever the current multiplier is, this has been confirmed by n270/n280 owners in the HP Mini 311). So either the N330s have Speedstep disabled, there is a problem with mine or I have some how screwed it up. I doubt #3 is the answer since all the OCing I have done is software based and a simple reboot should fix it. Also my idle temps are in the high 40s/low 50s

 

happy holidays to you!!! Jake you as well!!!

In bold, does that mean that you didnt touch anythng in ntunes anymore (i.e. upped the memory timings) and instead just increased the cpu frequency in OCTuner only to get the 1900mhzs.

 

Also jake/gordesky, do you guys know of any of other websites/forums where people can talk about the 1201n besides this one. I tried eeeuser.com's forum & asus.com's forum but there has been no activity like how this thread is moving, even though it is only the 3 of us.

I am not bashing this thread at all, you both have been given me so much assistance so far. Thanks

 

Yeah I agree with gordesky, I have set my FSB to 166 and left it at that (I am just playing with voltage to see if running it at a lower CPU voltage will help temps). By upping the GPU to 500Mhz it increased the heat a lot and didn't really provide much real world benefit and since I believe the GPU and CPU share the same heatsink then it would be better to leave the GPU at stock to keep the temps down. Can either of you try CPU-Z and see what it shows for CPU speed/multiplier at idle or Everest and see if Enhanced Halt State is enabled, mine shows supported but disabled and I can get everest to enable it.

Also I know of no other website with this much traffic for the 1201N

 

jake I have now 3.25gb memory (all this: 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) installed but I cant get my cpu frequency up to 166 on OCTuner. I tried even 160 and got the blue screen. Is the only way to get it to the above 160 mark by increasing the memory timing in Nvidia Ntune. Can you give me exactly what you changed so atleast I can get around 160, or did you get it to 166 my some other program/tweak all together,.

 

All I did was increase the FSB and that was it. I didn't play with any memory settings or voltage. Not all CPUs are created equal, I guess mine is a better overclocker. Also what are you getting for temps. I get between 35C - 55C for idle - full load. Lastly, do you know if your CPU runs at full speed all the time or does it downclock when idle?

 

yep jake nailed it with the cpu part not all cpus the same

ya jake mine runs at full speed all the time even at stock could be just theses 330s don't down clock.

oh i checked everrest and it says the same as yours supported but disable.



oh and have a Merry Christmas



yep slumpey326 i pretty much gave up and accepted 1880 to 1900mhzs got tired keep going to ntune and changing them each time i restart or crash lol

max clock mine would ony go even when messing with the timings was 1930mhzs so those extra mhzs wont make a difference or worth it.

 

So I have done a little more research/experimenting and this is what I have come up with.
The Atom 330 has no speedstep technology (since it is technically a desktop CPU), the multiplier is locked at 12x regardless of CPU load. The CPU voltage can not be changed since it relies on speedstep technology. Changing the FSB causes errors with the temp monitors (with HW monitor) that is why people are noticing lower temps when overclocking, Everest displays the correct temps even when OCing. Also I believe while speedstep isn't supported halt state is (which allows for for using the lowest multiplier but no voltage change), but Asus has disabled that feature.
Knowing/assuming all this means that the only way to improve OC performance is with memory tweaks (better quality RAM, timings, voltage) or by improving the cooling. And no matter what we do it will always be running at full speed thus meaning the OCing will have a bigger impact on battery life.

This is just my impression from what I have found out, if anyone has any comments let me know.

 

my higher than lower temps was caused by the ac adapter plug siting by the vent blocking air

temps are still kinda on the hot side while just not doing anything but think that's just the desktop 330 doing it hehe


so far even having it overclock battery life been about the same for me maybe 5min off if even that.

but will have to test the battery fully on gaming on overclock and stock to see what i get

gona try and get some nice 4gb ram 2x2gb and put win 7 64bit on it hopefully next month.

 

do you guys leave the 1201n on overclock all the time or just when you are playing games or something like that.

so in the end you guys both just stuck with OCTuner and nothing else... how strange of a world it is

Does either of your netbook's fan get louder when you overclock it. Does it stay that loud or will it quiet after a few.

 

It is a little louder, but I haven't realized much difference depends how much of a load the CPU is under.
Also someone mentioned about the FSB resetting to the default 133Mhz on a resume from sleep or on a reboot.
I have created these two tasks that will autorun ASROC.exe on startup or resume from standby and then kill the ASROC.exe process 1 minute later after the FSB has been reset.

Requirements:
Having ASROC installed to "C:\Program Files\ASRock Utility\OCTuner\"
placing the killasroc.bat file in that same folder and then make sure the "Auto apply when program starts" check box is checked and your FSB set to a stable value (note if you dont make sure it is then you will have potential instability upon booting).
Then just import the two .xml tasks into task scheduler. You can leave the setting in ASRockOC itself to Off for autostart when windows starts.

Enjoy.

 

I want to install windows 64 on my computer because I have a disk and can use the same key that came with the 1201n. The problem is I dont have an external dvd drive.

Is there anyway to install windows 64 via usb. If so please provide instructions.

 

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

 

that's the same guide I used + wanting to post

Is there anyone who has tried installing Mac Os X?

 

if you install windows 7 64 bit, what is the max memory it can handle.

Are we sure windows 7 64bit can even be installed on the 1201N. Can the BIOS handle it. Is there anything you need to do before 64bit is installed.




Originally Posted by jakejm79 View Post
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

What do I do about Step #5 in my situation: ( 5. Next insert your Windows7/Vista DVD into the optical drive and check the drive letter of the DVD drive. In this guide I will assume that your DVD drive letter is “D” and USB drive letter is “H” (open my computer to know about it).)

Can I still do this without an external dvd drive for the 1201N. Basically I have a desktop pc also that has a dvd drive, would I use the letter that corresponds to the dvd drive on the desktop and the letter that corresponds to the usb drive on the 1201n or the desktop also. Is this correct.

 

Nope nothing special you need to do. Max RAM for 7 64bit is around 17 Billion GB, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes follow the whole guide on a computer with a DVD drive (i.e your desktop) then when you are done just take the USB stick and plug it into your 1201N.

 

I haven't tried it personally, but I did read somewhere someone saying that everything should work, even the wireless card will work natively under OS X.

 

do I have to set the BIOS to recognize usb boot first, how do I do that.

 

At Boot Sequence, but I think you can press a key when it starts up to select boot menu.

 

Either hit Esc to bring up the boot selection menu or press F2 to get into bios setup and change it there (tho you will have to change it back). You may need to go into the bios setup first to disable fast bios boot or some option like that.

 

there is a guy from a french forum that installed windows xp on his n330 and got 45 minutes more out of the battery and also performance in games is better than 7 .

 

ferrarista, that can be, but what are 45 minutes in a mans life? I mean, if you want DX10 / 10.1 / 11, you can't get that on win XP, so I should stick to W7

 

45 minutes a day 365 days a year, I'm pretty sure 273 hours is a fairly large portion of a man's life.

 

is it not worth putting win7 64 bit on the 1201n. Will it make it slower and drain the battery. I am thinking about doing it since I have a win7 64 bit disk lying around.

Also where can I find the current win7 32bit serial that is on my 1201n. Will that work for the 64bit as well.

 

There serial is on the sticker on the bottom of the netbook. The way I understand it with W7 is that all 32 bit discs contain all versions of the OS depending on the serial number determines your OS level (Starter, Home Premium, Pro, Ultimate) and the same is true for the 64 bit discs. Also the 32 bit keys should work for 64 bit and vice-versa.

 

so the serial at the bottom of the 1201n will only work also with a 64bit home premium, right not ultimate or anything else. Home Premium only.

 

Yes. Home premium only.

 

kind of dumb question but do i copy the one Iso file for Windows 7 64bit to the usb to then be bootable or do I copy all the files that are shown on the windows 7 64bit disc when I click on the dvd via my computer.

 

download winrar, extract to the USB drive. AFTER making the drive active.

 

You want all the files. You can either just open the DVD in my computer or if you have an iso you can open with winrar and then drag all the files in the iso to the USB stick, like already mentioned.

 

you guys both rock, thanks. Will probably do the switch to win7 64 bit sometime this week. Thanks again for all the help/advice the past few days.

 

So what's the final concensus here? Everyone that got a 1201N happy so far? any reservations or regrets? Gaming to expectations?

 

anyone experienced yet with undervolting? since this cpu doesn't support speedstep, does it mean when you put in power saver mode it runs at the same speed as balanced or high performance?

 

gordesky/james, do you always have your 1201n overclocked or just when playing games.

 

Can anyone please take a picture with the webcam???

 

So I think I am going to bite the bullet and install win7 64 bit today, do you guys recommend putting 64bit on the 1201n. Can it handle it, will it effect performance on the 1201n for the better.

 

I was a little underwhelmed when I first got it, the performance was no better than my Dual Pentium T3400 with 4500M GPU, but that was on older games with no support for Dual Core/HT. Now that I have it overclocked to 2GHZ it runs stable battery life is better than my old laptop, it is way lighter and more portable. Overall $500 is a lot for what it is, but I think once I load it up with HD media and it becomes a portable media player I will be more excited about it.

Undervolting relies on speedstep, so there is no possible way to undervolt the processor but that isn't the end of the world, it doesn't use a lot of power to begin with. It will always run at the 1.6GHZ (unless over/underclocked via the FSB) with all 3 of the windows power modes. But if you use the Asus super hybrid engine, then the middle and lower ones run at 133FSB = 1.6GHZ the super performance mode ups it to 136FSB = 1.632GHZ a very mild OC. Tho it seems like it might be possible to hack the SHE app to allow a higher OC.

I have mine set to automatically OC at startup/resume. I am sure it takes away a little from the battery life, but it will improve the overall performance and besides from what other people have said it is only a 5 min sacrifice in battery life.

 

thanks jake for the advice, do you know the answer to these:

Do I need to install on the drivers after I install win7 64 bit or will they still be there on the netbook.

Also, if I install the win7 64 bit will I lose the F9 option to recovery back to win7 32 bit if something goes wrong during the install or later on if I dont want 64bit on my computer anymore. Should I install win7 64bit on a partition.

 

If you don't touch the partitions you still have the option to recover back. But when I did a fresh install I deleted all the partitions, didn't think there was any need to have the recovery stuff.
Yes you will need to install all new drivers, since the old ones will only work for 32 bit OS. I would suggest at least downloading the wireless card drivers from Asus's website and saving those to the USB stick you use for install since then you can just connect to the internet and download all the other drivers.

 

are you sure of that? I would imagine if you use Rmclock it would detect only 1 speed, but you should still be able to undervolt it.

would be nice if someone could try to see. you could reduce power drain without affecting performance. also less heat.

check this guide: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824

Also if someone finds a way to hack the bios to be able to overclock from the bios , it would be possible to reach higher overclocks since overclocking from bios doesn't overclock the ram. would make things more stable.

 

thanks jake, are there separate drivers for 32bit and 64bit

 

so far i been happy with it pretty much what i wanted in a small netbook.
i pretty much expected less performance than it gets in games.

now i just need to get some 2x2gb of ram and pop on 64bit lol

the game i was suprized the most that played pretty decent on it was fallen earth mmo cause that game is huge and open worlded and the 1201n handles it pretty well.

but ya it was well worth 500$ for me


slumpey326 yep i usely keep it overclock allways than when i want to put it in sleep mode i just lower it down to 133fsb sense when its overclock it will locked up on a black screen when going to sleep.

and no it shouldn't loose performance going to 64bit i would think you would gain performance little with it but it wont loose performance

 

I just purchased mine from Newegg. I think I managed to get the last one they had. I had checked their site at about 11:30 EST and it still said Sold Out, at 12:30 they had it and I placed my order, then the site said Sold Out again. They sold out in only an hour! I ordered with over night shipping so, hopefully, I'll have it tomorrow.

 

I am positive about it. BTW RMclock doesn't support Atom processors so that guide is useless. I have tried crystalcpuid that does support the atom, but it wont allow me to change the voltage. I have also tried the Asrock OC tool that allows voltage adjustments and while it shows it has changing it doesn't actually change the voltage at all. The idea of reducing core voltage depends on EIST support since it is possible on the N270/280 mobile atom cpus (crystalcpuid allows for undervolting of those atom cpus since they support EIST.

 

Do you leave the OC utility up and running? I have no issues with sleep and blackscreens. Actually I have mine set to run the ASROC utility on startup (and then kill the process 30 seconds later since once it is set it doesn't need to keep running). And then it does the same when coming out of sleep (since putting it to sleep and waking it up resets the FSB).

 

I believe they are both packaged in the same ZIP file. Normally there is a x86/32bit folder and a x64/64bit folder.

 

I downloaded the Touchpad driver just to see what it would look like. I see a setup file in the main folder, and then within the main folder there is a subfolder called WinWDF. In this WinWDF folder I see a x64 folder and x86 folder.

My question is do I just click on the setup icon in the main folder and it will automatically know to install the x64 version, or do I have to go into the subfolder called x64 and click on the setup icon.

 

need help, I followed these instructions to set up the USB:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

I then copied all the windows 7 x64 Home Premium files from dvd to usb.


I then went into BIOS and disabled Boot Booster and then went back into BIOS and changed the Boot BIOS Priority to have the Removable Drive (aka USB) as first. I hit F10 after each time to save everything. Then turned off the computer.

But when I stick the usb into the usb drive and turn on the 1201n, it doesnt load up the windows 7 set up screen. Am I missing some step.

 

Yes it should auto detect your OS (32 or 64 bit) and install the correct driver.

Did you try hitting esc and picking removable drive from the list. Sounds like maybe the USB stick isn't set up has a bootable device, did you follow the guide exactly?

 

going to try and do the setup again when I get home from work.

Has anyone else tried booting up from a usb on the 1201n. Can it be done.