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    Asus UL30JT

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Hihi, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. 1k3

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    if the PL is aimed at the business class, then it probably stands for "professional"...
     
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    UL30JT has i7. PL30JT has i5. This is a huge difference.
     
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    until I see an official announcement from Asus, I think we are only still guessing.
     
  6. Jayayess1190

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    Hey guy's look what Acer has coming: Link
     
  7. EateryOfPiza

    EateryOfPiza Notebook Geek

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    Only 6 hours. ATI means no Optimus. The only way this could be considered a similar laptop is in the chassis size. In that case, you can consider the MBP to be similar to the UL30JT.
     
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    Thats a pretty hot looking lappy :)
     
  9. SSJ

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    Then they better offer a matt bright display with it.
     
  10. ckthepilot

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    Asus is probably the world's crappiest at marketing their products effectively... It sucks because their products are in heavy demand.
     
  11. joni99

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    [​IMG]

    happiness ! :)

    - new trackpad
    - non glosy inside
    - i5-520UM processor
    - Nvidia GeForce 310M with 1GB
    - 640GB HHD

    + maybe non glare display
     
  12. Santino12

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    Isn't that the PL30JT, which has the I5 instead of the I7? So confused...

    For those savvier than me on the tech side, how would the I5 ulv compare to the SU7300 w/ turbo in the UL30VT-A1?
     
  13. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    lol, I'm assuming that you're happy because you're hoping the UL30JT will be released with similar design choices as the PL30JT. I really hope so too, but to be honest, the PL30JT is a business laptop and because of that the design can be very different than a consumer laptop (which usually end up getting the glossy screen, glossy palm rest, glossy everything)
     
  14. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    The new trackpad will probably only come with the PL, not UL.
     
  15. joni99

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    PL30JT ul30jt all good :)
     
  16. slumpey326

    slumpey326 Notebook Consultant

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    I second that, both the pl30jt and ul30jt seem great. Excited to get either.
     
  17. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    I wonder if the build quality of the PL will be much better than the UL. I expect them to have differences if the PL is going to be charged for a premium over the UL.

    By the looks of it, the PL and UL will have exactly the same body? Can anyone confirm?
     
  18. Smigit

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    Well that german site thats linked to some pages back listed an i5 for the UL30JT as well. Currently we don't really know what CPU the system will have for sure.

    As it is, the PL may be a good alternative.
     
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    By the looks of things, the PL will be available next month and the UL will be available in 2 months.
     
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    I thought people were saying the UL would be available sometime this month after CeBIT
     
  21. Hihi

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    Huh? How so?
     
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    Do you guys still think the price for the JT will be over the $1,000 mark?
     
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    So far all we've heard are rumors from people on German message boards. At this point I'm not believing anything unless Asus says it.
     
  24. joni99

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    hey ! news time

    i found new image of pl30jt !
    +
    anti glare lcd ! :) :)

    [​IMG]



    [​IMG]
     
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    any mention of a backlit keyboard on either?
     
  26. yhbae01

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    I am so close from buying UL30VT-A1 as I got fed up waiting for JT. May be as close as next week. I hate to see JT get released a week after my purchase though...

    Or are we gonna still wait for 2 more months? ASUS???
     
  27. ckthepilot

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    Usually the Asus rep on Amazon tells us what will be in stock in 1-2 weeks ahead of time. This time around he is very quiet so I don't intend these laptops to be released via Amazon any time soon. Just my hunch. Could be wrong :) And the UL30JT is the the laptop that everyone is waiting for.
     
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    It's not backlit. Just looking at the keyboard, it has blue text, which means the label is printed on and no light will go through that.
     
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    Just an idea, and just putting this out there. Is the PL series new? Because maybe for the arrandale procs, asus has decided to rename the UL to PL. Ultra Low to Portable and Secure perhaps? Definetly seems like it. Same screen size, same ram, same graphics card, a rumored proc? i don't know but maybe this is the JT after all?
     
  33. Smigit

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    Seems unlikely to me TBH. What would be the benefits really of such a move after investing in the ULXX branding? I think the business and consumer line idea makes more sense.
     
  34. vaio_boi

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    If they wanted to have a fine line between a consumer/business line, the PL should have had better LCD screen (more resolution options), better body chassis...

    Other then minor differences like security lock and anti glare screen, what differences are there that separates UL and PL?
     
  35. nvikram

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    My point exactly, I'm not sure exactly what to think about this, this model was totally out of the blue. If asus wanted to expand the "Thin and Light" series into the business end, wouldn't they have something like that at CES? The new security lock and intel-anti-theft technology is the only thing that really seperates the two. Other than that, they are all the same. And earlier they were talking about a new touchpad, that's probably because asus got so many complaints about the other one, they may have decided to change it. Then again, I would just take all this with a grain of salt, who knows that the asus guys are up to, whatever they do, I need a laptop by the end of April, so they better get their act together soon. :)
     
  36. Jayayess1190

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    Yes, the PL is the JT, just customized for a business user.

    Nothing.
     
  37. Smigit

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    It could be a rebranding, but I wouldn't pass off anti theft functions as minor in any way shape or form. For a business if those work properly then they could be big features and could be worth a decent price premium.

    Anyway we are talking about Asus here, the same company that has two million eeepc's on the market. Hell, if we take the CES specs as being accurate then its not like there was much difference between the UL30VT and the UL30JT either barring a CPU upgrade and a matte finish. In the end Asus really has no problem releasing similar systems.

    Lastly keep in mind we still don't really know what the UL30JT's specs are. We've had two reports and they were conflicting and nothing much recently. Maybe thats due to it being rebranded from the UL moniker or it could be other factors and additional changes. That said, I can't see them needing or wanting to push anti theft too heavily in a consumer product that sells for under $1K...it makes more sense to me that that is an enterprise feature.
     
  38. dunelly

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    thank jesus christ for that matted screen
    will that i5 have low power usage like the i7
     
  39. rana_kirti

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    where is the UL30JT...???? :realmad:

    Where is it...???

    Where.....???
     
  40. joni99

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    i think the pl30jt is the final name for ul30jt

    maybe the "p" = core i5 processor
     
  41. YESHHHH

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    This question is directed at those who prefer matte screens:

    Why do you prefer matte screens? Aren't there both pros and cons to matte vs glossy?

    Just curious.

    Personally I am indifferent. I've used both glossy and matte and don't favor one over the other.
     
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    I just can't believe it ! 2 days of news from Asus, but still no release date; only new systems announced! What is funny to build new systems and never release them ? I cannot understand the meaning of that. I just hope both or one of these laptops will be released this month. PL30JT seems nice. If it comes out the first, I will voluntary buy it, though I think it has less battery life than JT ( 10-hours vs 12 hours for the UL ).

    Bamboos also look nice, but again, why build new systems without releasing them !!!!!! What's your prob Asus !

    For screens, my former Inspiron E1505 had a glossy screen. I think glossy has more vibrant colors, but you need to be in a dark place to see something (even in a classroom it can be annoying). If the PL has a matte finish, this laptop will be mine (if price is relatively accessible too, sometimes business laptops = $$$ !!!!)
     
  43. EateryOfPiza

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    The anti-theft function uses Computrace Lojack, which is basically a non-malicious (so they say) rootkit. It's a piece of software that sits in Windows and when you connect the computer to a network, it attempts to contact the Computrace servers to inform Computrace of the current IP. If the laptop is reported stolen, Computrace will record that IP and send that information to the cops. Using Intel Anti-Theft, Computrace can lock down the hardware of the computer so that the thief could not use it.

    Here comes the rootkit-y part. If you uninstall the software agent OR wipe the hard drive and reload Windows, Computrace silently re-installs itself.
     
  44. impruv

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    If I wipe the harddrive and install fresh windows, it can still re-install itsef? Or if I change to a different ssd and install fresh windows?
     
  45. EateryOfPiza

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    Yep. The program lives in either the BIOS or a seperate memory chip that is usually soldered to the motherboard. Using basic rootkit techniques it can reinsert itself into Windows.

    I also believe some researchers at DEFCON proved that a malicious actor could use LoJack as a backdoor into such a installation

    EDIT: Found it: http://corelabs.coresecurity.com/in...&type=publication&name=Deactivate_the_Rootkit

    TBH, its troubling but I'm not too worked up about it. I haven't heard of anybody exploiting this in the wild. Almost every laptop comes with it these days (Dells, Lenovos) and you can't really get away without severely limiting your choices. You'll need to make the decision yourself as to whether you care enough. I'm one of the more privacy paranoid people out there (encrypted hard drive, blocked every facebook application my friends use), but I can't say I would take a principled stand about this and get a crappier laptop
     
  46. ckthepilot

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    I wonder if we're all waiting for something that's non-existent... The PL could well be the JT... But I'm not impressed with the PL lappy.
     
  47. sn_85

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    I personally don't think the PL30JT is replacing the UL30JT. A lot of people were hoping for a gpu change or inclusion of USB3.0 announcement for the UL30JT at CeBit and that could have just been an unreal expectation. It could just be that the specs for the UL30JT have been finalized and that they are now in production and shipment (whenever that may be). Perhaps they didn't think it would be worth putting a laptop out on display that has already been introduced at CES. That's just my guess, no reason behind it.
     
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    The PL is one sexy machine...if it was $900, $950...on Amazon...I would bite
     
  49. Gershel

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    Guys, I just can`t suffer this bull..(SRY) no more. Do you really missed a HUGE difference btw PL30Jt and UL30Jt or all of you just pretending? I`m SHOCKED. Here we are:

    Ul30Jt specs:

    i7-640UM/620UM CPU
    Intel GS45 Chipset
    DDR3 1066MHz up to 4Gb
    13.3" 16:9 LED display
    NVIDIA GeForce 310M 1Gb
    SATA HDD up to 640Gb

    PL30Jt specs:

    Intel Core i5-520UM(1.06GHz - up to 1.86GHz
    Intel H55M Chipset
    DDR3 1066MHz up to 4Gb
    13.3" 16:9 LED display (with glare/non-glare option)
    NVIDIA GeForce 310M 1Gb
    SATA HDD up to 640Gb

    Just a little alteration, huh?

    Open your blind eyes, UL30Jt(if specs from CES are accurate) is NOT an Intel Calpella model, PL30Jt is(if specs from CeBIT are accurate).

    Seriously speaking the UL30Jt has an "appendix" in design expressed in GS45`s 4500MHD while the 45нм Intel HD Graphics under the hood of the i7-640UM is obviously being DISABLED. Just imagine such a clumsy construction.

    But the PL30Jt, as far as I see, is a full-fledged Calpella model.

    Correct me if I`m wrong..
     
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    they are saving the best for last... the ul30jt
     
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