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    Asus UL30JT

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Hihi, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. keefbeef

    keefbeef Newbie

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    The "GS45 chipset" in that description is probably a mistake since it doesn't even support the new Core cpu's. It only supports Core 2 Duo.

    If the UL30JT has a Core i7, then it is Capella (not Montevina).
     
  2. rana_kirti

    rana_kirti Notebook Evangelist

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    Gershel.... This is your first post & i'm proud of you..... :biggrin:

    You are Right my Friend :yes:

    As far as what i can make out of the current situation is this....

    1. The UL30JT was never supposed to be produced... It was just a Prototype. Just like a Concept Car that never gets made. They always make something close to the Concept car with variations.

    2. We all wasted many hours of our Youth "The Prime Time of our LIFE" talking, debating, arguing about.... What UL30JT will be... :cry: How UL30JT will be.... :mad2: and most importantly..... When UL30JT will be........??? :realmad:

    3. As you pointed all the specs were wrong...!! They could have never co-existed together.....!!!

    4. The UL30PT looks like a Calpella Product...!! :yes:

    5. Everyone here should now officially stop talking about the UL30JT.... :SLEEP:

    6. The UL30JT is dead and no one's gonna cry about it.... Long live the new King of Ultraportables..... The PL30JT...!!! :notworthy:
     
  3. Gershel

    Gershel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are U to say that Asus dare to compose nameplates incorrectly? I can`t believe that.
     
  4. 09ine

    09ine Notebook Enthusiast

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    So...assuming this is the "UL30JT" final version, does the different chipset make it better? I'm completely confused as to whether it's i5 or i7 or if it was worth the wait.
     
  5. Gershel

    Gershel Notebook Enthusiast

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    So then what?

    Your lovely UL30Jt just like a mountain bike with an additional wheel(inner Intel Graphics HD in i7) suspended in the air.
     
  6. Gershel

    Gershel Notebook Enthusiast

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    It is not about better or not. It is about full-featured(Intel Calpella) and cripple(i7 + GS45(!)) designs.

    More simply, in UL30Jt you have two exactly the same built-in GPU`s simultaneously one of which is being DISABLED by reason of dummy design.
     
  7. Gershel

    Gershel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe there's no need to dramatize? Hopefully Asus finally drop such weird design and replace it with normal H55M chipset.
     
  8. ojt

    ojt Newbie

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    cebit picture of ul30jt

    [​IMG]

    the specs are the same:
    core i7 640UM
    4GB DDR3
    640GB/7200rpm
    nvidia GT310M 1GB

    &

    ul80jt

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Soulsaber

    Soulsaber Notebook Evangelist

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  10. Gershel

    Gershel Notebook Enthusiast

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    can U provide us with more detailed pics where we can see the nameplate? pls
     
  11. VenomXv

    VenomXv Notebook Enthusiast

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  12. Hihi

    Hihi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why does the UL30JT have an i5 processor?

    Or are there i5 and i7 models?
     
  13. dirtymaf

    dirtymaf Notebook Guru

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    What's the performance gap between the i5 and i7?
     
  14. impruv

    impruv Notebook Evangelist

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    There seems to be both since u can see on the picture of the sticker on the laptop, it says i7 640m
     
  15. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Very little. The I5 seems to perform close to the I7 with much less power draw.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Intel-Core-i3-i5-i7-Processors-Arrandale.25085.0.html

    Make sure you look at the I5-520UM and the I7-640UM chips which seem to be going in the UL30JT.

    Bronsky :cool:

    Edit: I think the Sticker says I7-640UM which makes more sense in a computer like the UL30JT, which seems to be designed to maximize battery power.
     
  16. joni99

    joni99 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i think the ul30vt is a very good model !

    asus listen and the pl30jt fix all the cons ...

    - new trackpad
    - anti glare screen
    - non glossy plastic inside (Brushed metal)

    a littel boost in spec is a bonus..
     
  17. EateryOfPiza

    EateryOfPiza Notebook Geek

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    Looking at the pictures, I think I found another difference between UL30JT and PL30JT aside from the anti-theft tech, the metal coverings, and the matte screen. The UL has that crappy dimpled touchpad with the rocker switch. I know I'll be going for the PL.

    As for price, here's my bets: $1200 for PL, $900 for UL. Over/under anybody?
     
  18. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Core i5 520UM 1.06GHz
    Core i5 540UM 1.2GHz (coming in Q3 with the Calpella platform refresh)
    Core i7 620UM 1.06GHz
    Core i7 640UM 1.2GHz
    Core i7 660UM 1.33GHz (coming in Q3 with the Calpella platform refresh).

    Core i7's have 1mb l3 cache more, and higher Turbo Boost speeds over the Core i5's.
     
  19. BlazingSkies

    BlazingSkies Notebook Consultant

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    rocker switch BAD?
    and um
    why would the PL cost more than the UL? lol
     
  20. SSJ

    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    Better buildquality etc.
     
  21. Smigit

    Smigit Notebook Enthusiast

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    So whats the deal with the i7 sticker and under it a spec sheet saying its an i5? If it was both I would have assumed they'd put both specs on the paper card like they did with the PL's Glare/Anti Glare spec.

    ATM I think the PL may be the laptop I go for.
     
  22. drv482

    drv482 Newbie

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  23. YESHHHH

    YESHHHH Notebook Consultant

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    If the PL30JT comes in silver, in 4 one! :yes:

    Hopefully it's less than $1,000...
     
  24. impruv

    impruv Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm ready for a pl30jt!!
    In hindsight the vt's are GREAT value now...
     
  25. YESHHHH

    YESHHHH Notebook Consultant

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    I agree to an extent.. $799 for the VT-A1 is outstanding.. BUT:

    matte screen
    proper mousepad/buttons
    matte palm rests
    upgraded cpu/gpu
    bigger and/or faster hdd
    security features

    If the PL30JT debuts at ~$999.. ~$200 more for all the additions I listed above... that would be a great value too.
     
  26. Ghost26

    Ghost26 Notebook Guru

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    I just want a release date :cry: !!!!
     
  27. 09ine

    09ine Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am so psyched for this thing. My hp dv3 just went kaput on my again and in for repairs, I'm willing to wait until the end of my spring semester if it means I can finally get the PL
     
  28. nvikram

    nvikram Notebook Geek

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    Totally, it doesn't look like much of a difference between i5 and i7, and since it has a better trackpad and screen (i prefer matte). I'll probably go for the PL as well. But please, asus, lets get some review systems out and a proper launch date. :)
     
  29. slumpey326

    slumpey326 Notebook Consultant

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    I think which ever one comes out first I am getting. Here is hoping the release is sometime this month.
     
  30. helderlima

    helderlima Notebook Enthusiast

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    What is the difference between the trackpad of UL30 and PL30? Which is better? Why one is better than the other one?
     
  31. Juldarus

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    I think it's just that the UL has dimples and connected left-right click buttons while the PL's trackpad has a smooth surface and two separate buttons.
     
  32. helderlima

    helderlima Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the answer. Based on that, I can say that I prefer the touchpad with dimples (it gives me more sensibility and precision, as the finger doesn´t slip) and the single button for left/right click (it´s esthetically better and gives the same functionality).
     
  33. impruv

    impruv Notebook Evangelist

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    Going from the ul30-a2 ... that trackpad/single button is TERRIBLE.
    The dimples cause jumps when you scroll and the single button is very hard and clicky. I'm not sure if they fixed this or not in the VT/JT but I would not touch it with a 10 ft pole ever again.
     
  34. Gershel

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    Thank you so much, pal. I don`t have any doubts now.
     
  35. sn_85

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    Have you ever tried it in person though? A lot of people, including myself, don't like the dimpled trackpad and don't like the single bar mouse button either.

    Here is why. The trackpad is made of the same material as the palm rest, in which this last generation of Asus laptops used glossy plastic. It's extremely hard to track on something that is glossy because it has a ton of friction. The finger doesn't glide easily and you have to be very light to the touch. You're fingers needed to be oiled up to get it to glide so if you just washed your hands then you need to some how get them slick. Now after a while oils will collect on the trackpad and it won't be so bad but if you've got the black color then welcome to finger prints and smears all over the trackpad.

    As far as the single mouse bar, for whatever reason Asus made it hard to click the button. For one it was really stiff. Second you have to press at the edges since it's kind of like a rocker.

    Now if Asus uses a matte material for the palmrest and trackpad maybe it will improve. The single bar mouse button is still there however. Some people say it's okay, some people hate it. I don't think I've ever heard someone say they love the trackpad and mousebar though. It's usable but I think there are enough complaints that they should just get rid of it and implement what they have on the PL for the UL.
     
  36. BlazingSkies

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    man this is turning to the PL30JT thread....

    im leaning towards this as well... the trackpad and click buttons + matte screen, damn
     
  37. nvikram

    nvikram Notebook Geek

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    Plus with the i5 coming up close to the i7, It's a tough decision between the UL or the PL. I'm really loving though, how the PL has more brushed. aluminum in more places. so many decisions...
     
  38. helderlima

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    I own an Asus Eee 1005ha. Is it the same trackpad? It also has a single button and I don´t dislike it. I may be exception here, but I see no difference between 1 or 2 buttons.
    I may agree about the easiness of gliding on the glossy plastic, but I have fixed it increasing the speed of the mouse cursor (windows´ control panel).

    Don´t you think that the integrated trackpad gives a more expensive look?

    Is the experience you are referring the same as of the Asus Eee 1005ha?
     
  39. joni99

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    pl30jt is more appealing then the ul30jt for me

    matte screen win
     
  40. yhbae01

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    I'll be very happy buying UL30JT next week! (probably not gonna happen) I don't want to wait for another 3 months for PL...

    ASUS, get UL30JT out FIRST then talk about PL...
     
  41. sn_85

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    Yes, that type of trackpad and mouse button. You may like it but many others don't. There obviously a polarization of opinions when it comes to the trackpad and mouse button. The trackpad and button hasn't been well received in professional reviews either, check the 1005ha and ul80vt review from this very own site. If there is that much of a differing of opinion they should improve on the design or just go with something more traditional.

    You might have learned to deal with the trackpad by fixing it in the control panel but the thing should just work like butter out of the box. The mouse button is loud, clicky, and has a limited area where you can actually press on it as you wont get any action near the center.

    Whether or not an integrated trackpad makes it look "more expensive" I don't really care. It might look expensive but if it performs below average then what's the point? Just give me something that works.

    Either way, I don't think it will sway me too much. Whatever is released first is what I'll get. Ideally I'd like the trackpad and mouse button on the PL but if I get the UL I'll just have to deal with it.
     
  42. yus9

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    Take a look at the new 13" Acer 3820T has i5m, i7m, switchable ATI graphics, and Turbo Boost, with an 8-hour battery.
    Better specifications than the up-coming PL30JT???

    Thanks to Jayayess1190 for the link.
    (attached screen shots of the specs if the link is withdrawn)
     
  43. lackofcheese

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    The Acer is far more powerful.
    The CPU is a full-voltage mobile Core i rather than a ULV, and the video card is a few times more powerful - it's an upper-midrange laptop card, as compared to the 310M, which is a lower-midrange card. That's a major difference.

    However, because of the higher-voltage CPU, the 8-hour battery life claim seems exaggerated, though because the battery is 6000mAH it should be solid.

    Overall, the 3820T is very interesting indeed. There's a thread on it here.
     
  44. YESHHHH

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    Holy smokes... goodbye Asus, hello Acer LOL.
     
  45. nvikram

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    Believe it or not, the Asus UL30JT/PL30JT GT 310m actually scores almost 1000 points better than the Mobility Radeon in the Acer. Plus, Asus has a better track record with laptop malfunctions than acer does, I don't know about you guys, but I think i'll be sticking with the UL30JT/PL30JT
     
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    That is until you compare it to the Acer with the Mobility HD5650 in it...
     
  48. YESHHHH

    YESHHHH Notebook Consultant

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  49. lackofcheese

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    Sorry, I should've specifically said the HD 5650 version and ~2x as powerful, but nonetheless, it's very interesting indeed.

    Personally, I've been looking at 14" as well as 13", out of which the N82Jv (thread here) is the most interesting to me. The only laptops I could name in the category of 13-14" with Core i CPUs and switchable graphics were the Lenovo Y460, Acer Timeline 3820/4820, ASUS N82, and Sony VAIO Z.
     
  50. Gershel

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    What about ASUS U33JC/U43JC ?
     
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