C90S common problems and fixes.

Nvidias desktop GPU (by themselve) will work until 127C, but you have to add the near components so yeah 95-100 is okay. I guess it's the same temp. I think Ken got from an Asus guy that the c90s okay temp was 100C.

On a desktop, load temp target is like 80-83, dunno about laptop. I know that doing a 3Dmark @90C gives me 200 pts more than @98C


And for whatever reasons, fans are working to keep my GPU @80C on battery + power saver mode while letting it be at 92C when AC is plugged is no problems.

Pretty annoying

 

RGS mentioned in his posts that the DDR2 version of the GPU should not cross 100deg C. ( THis was accdg to ASUS tech support. ) Im also worried for my GPU ( ddr2ver. ) coz it easily gets into 97-98 during 3dmark06 runs.

I also drilled 7 holes underneath the GPU ( inspired by sgt. hollywood. lol. ) noticed 2-3 deg. difference on idle already. Might put more holes... to drop the temps and avoid 100deg.

 

That's what I was looking for...I remember reading that somewhere now.

 

It's ntune's default critical temp.

 

I really don't know why there is not a grill there, maybe aesthetic or protecting from elements since it's mobile? A Stereo amp has a mesh grill bottom usually for heat. Hmmm, wonder how a dremel tool would work at drilling about 5 slits over the gpu so a cooler could blow air up there?

 

well for me, 7 holes @5mm dia each, spaced at 1cm on centers, + cooling pad = minus 7 deg. temp for the GPU. it ranges around 71 deg now. ( previously sat around high 70's - 80's ) at idle. ( without the holes and cooling pad. )

 

So the GPU temp might not be my problem. Im still curious as to why Oblivion crashes 5-10 minutes in. (black screen sound loop) And some other apps occasionally do that as well. I think I said before but I had it crash like that after leaving it alone, idle for a few hours.

 

WTH????? Now I'm playing Guild Wars okay? When I switch back to the desktop, fans start spinning like a jet, and once i go back to the game, they slow down. Why isnt it the other way arround?????

 

Squirrel what happens to your screen during the crash and before it? I had a similar problem with my old c90.

 

is it normal that I don't seem have any fan sensors? Speed fa & ntune gives me no FAN status. I do remember ken's post on the GDDR3 8600 had a sensor for the fans.

 

that 127c critical temp is not the max safe temp for a gpu. Its the omg freakin circuts are about to start melting if they havnt already thermal nuclear overload temp in wich the card will phisically shut itself down to prevent (further) fatal damage.

100c is definitly as hot as I would ever want it, infact its abit over the recomended temp for most cards.

 

Okay.

Man, they way the fans were acting sooner tonight was just freaking annoying. They run normally while gamming, so GPU freaking overheat, I alt-tab the game, the jet engine starts, will cool GPU, I return in the game, they stopp.

If I close thegame, they continue normally

 

Nothing that I really notice. It just pops into the black screen.

I never notice my fans beginning to spin fast at all.

I too notice that there isn't fan sensors, just the temperature.

 

Maybe an Nvidia/Vista problem? I doubt it's hardware. I take it you've applied at the MS patches esp for Nvidia?

 

Well my old c90 would crash during gaming but run fine otherwise. Guess we don't have a similar case. The colors would go whacko on my screen and the computer would completely freeze.

 

As much as the automatic Updates pick up...its probably not very intelligent. And they don't exactly have a nice layout of a list of patches. If anyone has a list of good patches to have, that would be great.

I saw in another thread that ~100C is about the most you should have for GPU temperature for a laptop.

@Forerunner Mine has only done this sound loop crash while not in a game of some sort once. Any other time it is in game. I can try Oblivion again here in a little while and confirm that it is just the straight to black screen sound loop.

 

What BIOS version is everyone using? Mine is the 8.00.12, which you would think would solve more problems then cause. Anyone had trouble with this version? Should I try and older version? (07/03/07)

 

http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vista_hotfixes.html

Have checked these updates out? One of them specifically mentions Oblivion.

 

Well apparently the Windows Update isn't very smart. At least one hotfix so far that installs.

 

Is it me or does half of nvidia's website not work?

 

Ok maybe not.


But, latest nvidia drivers = bad. BSOD. nv4_mini.sys was the file that was making it crash that time...at least it was a change of color in my crash.

 

Good to hear the mod also lowered your temps, I think ASUS should release a vented OEM panel to resolve some of the heat issues. What kind of temps are you seeing when you downclock in power saver mode? Also where are the fans located on your pad, under the holes?

 

Im debating the moding of the plate on mine, I have a drill, a dremel, a hot glue gun, and modders mesh so I am ready to rock. Thing is the system runs fine as is so dont see why I should. When I put a fan under the machine with no mods to the vents I got a 20c drop in temps. So I think its the cooling pad that matters more than the vents.

Unless the vents give good passive cooling results with no pad (I really dont want to use a cooling pad, takes alot of the mobility away from the machine, my backpack is stuffed as is) The only issue I see with the vent mod is that it makes it more prone to get crap inside the machine and could weaken its structural integrity.

My plan is just to do a 1-2" hole and glue mesh to it. It will work better than the smaller holes but the mesh will effectively keep the entry space for forign objects to a minimal.

 

So now I really don't know what the hell is happening but it's worst thanyesterday

Fans are quiet in standard mode and the LOUD in power saving mode.

They also are quiet in OC & gaming mode.

 

Hi sgt !

That OEM vented panel is a good idea. Haven't tried seeing my temps in powersaver mode. The fans for my cooling pad are also under the holes. ( Hence, direct cooling to the GPU... ). My GPU gets to around 70-71 C with the fan and the holes.

 

@ vicious, I had considered a single opening with a screen as well. I decided against it as I was worried about having an impact or pressure inside a bag breaking the screen off.

With a bit of OEM plastic still there there's a bit more rigidness and security. If you do do a single hole I'd recommend a couple stringers of the original material left in.

And yes, travel will need to be considered a bit more than without hole, but a nice sleeve can lessen the chance of case intrusions.

And if it ain't broke don't fix it, the GDDR3 just really demanded this IMO. Lockups and high temps are all but gone for me.

Oh, for those who are thinking about doing the mods yourselves. Make sure you remove the panel first. Don't need anyone screaming because they drilled a hole though the mobo...There's always someone...

 

So Noone knows about the tpm module? Its really bugging me

 

@ Hollywood, yeah I would leave some sort of the original material there for bracing reasons. My concern is that if you add too much air you may just get turbulance and not airflow, wich is bad in pc cooling. Also I noted along time ago the stock holes gave me HUGE cooling when I put a fan under them. The gpu/cpu blocks themselves and the pipes leading to the fins on the back can only disipate so much heat, passivly it wont be much at all. With some airflow on them it may make a good difference tho.

So soon as I get dressed, today I am heading to radio shack to see what kind of mini fans they have. I may wire my own fan inside the c90 case and give it its own internal airflow unit without exta holes. What this will do is cause all the hot air in the machine to be forced out the back vents and increase the native cooling of the machine, also it will keep warm air away from the hdd and stuff.

 

if you do give me the details please

80C DDR2 8600 in idle + 55C 5400RPM HDD is totally ?%$?%$%/$%$/

CPU is 70 under load and 45-55 idle

 

Oblivion lasted an hour this time and just crashed...no black screen though...things are looking up I suppose.

 

It's Nvidia/Vista related.....just like the battery mode prob IMO.

 

I can now confirm that Vista x64 + webcam =BSOD if AC is plugged. Battery mode works fine. (wake up from hibernation also BSOD on AC)

 

It's all Vista and driver related. I'm using Vista HP 32bit this time around....web cam works fine except I have to 'check' the 'flip' and 'mirror' boxes to make the image correct. Anyone else see this? I'm trying to figure out what it is...registry, etc.

 

Vista SP1 comes out January. Hoping its gonna fix a lot of problems. Maybe some nvidia drivers that don't bsod when I install them too.

 

This is really bugging me. The trusted platform module that bitlocker uses isnt working on my c90. does anyone else's not show up? Also doesn't it store fingerprints on it?

 

Half do you mean the protector suite ql for fingerprints?

 

Webcam with Asus site driver works fine with my sys Vista x64

 

That's the one I'm using, webcam works fine...using Vista32 this time. But, I have to check the 'flip' and 'mirror' box for the image not to be upside down and reversed....are your boxes checked?

 

No. The TPM is used for bitlocker and wont turn on. its shows up as this:

 

I don't even have that on my computer. Theres no category for security devices under my device manager.

 

You have to turn it on in the Bios.

 

As long as I'm on the battery it's fine. Hey, are your fans detected on x64?


EDIT: Nowi have another fricking annoying problem. I guess this one is worth a RMA alone.

S/PDIF out does NOT work. I have to force to make my headphone connector enters, the sound stop coming from the speakes so it detects something, but no sound in my headphones....

 

I don't think I saw the fans in anything except bios but I'll check,


S/PDIF might only work if the player/media is sending digital signals. I know for my Audigy only DVD and Media that has digital decoding will be sent, otherwise it's just stereo. Ie most games will not send digital therefore no S/PDIF so I need to use the analog.

Or do you have an actual physical jack issue, might want to check the size there are some very close. I know I've got some 1/8s that are funky with a 3.5mm jack even though they should be good to go.


And as for my "flip" boxes I'm not sure but it does react correctly when I flip the camera.

 

Now it enters not too badly.

I mean, I'm using the one near the microphone in. Between the E-SATA and he 1394 port....

When I plug it in, the sound stop coming from the c90s speakers so there is definetely a contact no?


Other than that, how do I switched to analog?

 

I've had that problem. Restart your computer and it usually fixes it. If it doesn't what I noticed was use the zip file extractor instead of the .exe application. Always restart after installling.

 

to whom are you talking ....?

I went into sound's settings. Now the headset works well under windows, but still nothing in games


EDIT: It works now.

I think it's because I enabled everything in the spdif config menu

 

Same with bluetooth and other audio devices you have to enable them to use them.

 

now the fans don't want to go in quiet mode...

Damn, there really is no way to manually control them, isn't it?

When I want them to run at full blast (i.e, games!!!) they don't and now in power saving they are running pretty loud.

 

Just in the BIOS the fans were at 3600-3700 RPM. What do they spin at under load? i.e. This "jet plane" I keep hearing about.

 

do 3 cpu test in 3dmark one after another, you'll see.