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    Newegg now offering G51VX-X1A; X2A; A1

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by SteelersWorship, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Warhammer40k

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    Just need to get confirmation but according to ASUS folks (yes they have been known to be wrong) as well as the Spec sheets on the USA ASUS website indicate that the 1920x1080 screen is LED backlight as well.
     
  2. TevashSzat

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    I meant the four flashing lights on the lid itself, not the LED for the screen.
     
  3. Warhammer40k

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    Gotcha, still need to get Lin to verify if the screen is LED backlight though.
     
  4. madpoet

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    Mine comes Tuesday... missed the Thursday shipping deadline. Pity. Anyway, once it gets here I'll proceed to pimp it out. Got a QX9300 coming and have an SSD and BD player to swap in.
     
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    MAN! I missed the rebate by 1 day. That sucks.
     
  7. mk1freak

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    not sure how it works stateside but the invoices up here in canada are from the date of shipping NOT purchase might wanna call the place you ordered from and see about the date? doesnt hurt to try yes?
     
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    Yeah, the rebate form says date of invoice so I think I'm out of luck. Oh well!
     
  9. Hawata

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    so the deal works for canada aswell? is the rebate taking the currency variation into account? :p so as soon as I get my receipt and all the needed infos i just have to logon to the Asus page and ask for my mail-in rebate? that would be awesome
     
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    woops.....
     
  11. TevashSzat

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    Yes to below

    ........
     
  13. SteelersWorship

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    You realize that link is to Newegg's CANADIAN site, don't you?

    U.S. Newegg is still showing original the pricing for each of the three models.
     
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    So the X1A and X2A have quad support?
     
  15. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    We do not know until someone receives it, buys a quad, (voids their warranty) and replaces CPU.

    We can make educated guesses if they would take a snapshot of their motherboard revision, but it still won't be the final answer.
     
  16. metalangel

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    Hmm thx , just waiting for this to know witch one I'll get , if not compatible will stay with the bb version that's cheaper.
     
  17. madpoet

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    Mine arrives Tuesday so I should be able to tell you pretty soon.
     
  18. r3dm4n89

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    Just found this thread and the g51vx-x1a looks like a pretty sweet machine but i can not find out much information besides what newegg describes so maybe if anyone can answer some questions.

    its the same casing as the bb model (besides the lid) right? so it has the back lit keyboard?

    and does anyone know if this one gets as hot as the bb model? I heard complaints about the heat on that one

    and how much ram can it hold? i'm assuming 8gb just wanted to make sure before i get it
     
  19. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Eight GB of RAM is the max.

    I would think that heat wouldn't change, since the P7350 and the P8700 have the same TDP.
     
  20. TevashSzat

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    It should have comparable temps.

    Frankly, the G51 temps have been widely overstated since I think 2 models from the first reviewers had really high temps. Lots of people have had perfectly fine temps (though a little bit higher than other comparable laptops)
     
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    shoot! guys! G51Vx X1A is now out of stock :( I just decided to buy. ghosh.
     
  22. Jebobek

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    I would definitely set up auto-notify, as there is a very good possibility that a popular model such as that will restock within the month.
     
  23. SteelersWorship

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    Not surprised given its pricing and specs. It will be interesting to see how long it takes before Newegg gets resupplied and whether current pricing holds.
     
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    Wow that's kinda lame that the new egg version sold out :(
    I'm still thinking of just walking into best buy and just picking up that version since its $300 cheaper anywayz......and im not afraid to say it but i do like the look better than the version on newegg......still waitin to hear from anyone that has the new egg one whether or not the overheating issue is on that as well......temptation to buy the G51 right now is growing strong lol
     
  25. Lethal Lottery

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    Well you probally end up paying 90-100 in taxes if you get the BB G51. So It might be best to wait for the newegg restock.
     
  26. SteelersWorship

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    Not too mention gaining an extra year of warranty and one year of accidental damage coverage.

    Personally, I'm starting to lean towards picking up a Sager 8662 given that it runs cooler, its 260M runs at default clocks, arguably better build quality, an 8 cell battery, and a lid that doesn't look like a 16 year old's art project.
     
  27. madpoet

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    Well since Newegg shipped mine even after I supposedly cancelled and they have a zero return policy, mine will be listed here as soon as it's in hand tomorrow :(
     
  28. Warhammer40k

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    No love for the G51? Which and why.
     
  29. Lethal Lottery

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    Yes, but the stock clocks on these asus laptops are more than fine for 95% of games, you can overclock for the few games that give framerate issues. The sager is more expensive and in my opinion looks horrendous. Yes the lids on these laptops are a little flashy but thats what gaming machines are all about IMO. I rather have flashy than the stale government inspired look of the sagers any day, but everyone is different.
     
  30. Jebobek

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    I took a look at that and I was frustrated at their advertised vs. G51-competitive pricing. by tuning up the memory+hdd speed to compete with the G51, its actually ~$1440 without an OS. I would consider that if it gave Vista + a free Win7 upgrade.

    madpoet, you might want to think about selling it on ebay unopened. Or, to someone on this site that would want it. I would first call newegg and plead your case, considering that you can return it unopened, and you tried to cancel it before you got it.
     
  31. echineon

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    @madpoet: If you can please send it to me, I'll pay you via Paypal like $1400 excluding shipping rate :( I'm in Singapore now and it's a huge pain to order.
    I hope Newegg will restock without escalating the price tho, LOL.
    PS: Does anyone know how reliable the USPS service is? My friend said it took long to deliver your goods and insurance was crap. Idk but the shipping rate was quite cheap tho.
     
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    updated: IT'S AVAILABLE again!!! Same price! WOOHOO! :D
    anyway, madpoet, please consider my offer
     
  33. madpoet

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    Yeah, unfortunately I just had my cat go under the knife for a piece of metal the stupid thing ate. Cost me $1200 total. Insanity. Newegg has already said I'm out of luck. Echineon, PM me if you want.
     
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    Well for small package, it is the best for USA to Canada. They transfer to Canada Post when it's in Canada.
     
  35. SteelersWorship

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    The issue is heat and cooling, of which the 8662 does a better job.


    It is more expensive, no question, but by what is essentially the cost of an OS. As for flashy and stale government looks, my preferences and ideas couldn't be more different, but, indeed, everyone is different.
     
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    I also agree with you that I liked the design of the asus much better.
    The chiclet illuminated keyboard was a big plus as well as full numpad is important to me too. The asus is Half inch thinner and half a pound lighter and i guess that sacrifices for heat.
    Antec Lansing speakers are a also a nice addition.

    To me I like how asus makes the design of the case more modern each year, and it nice of them to put the extra touch of the rubbercoated palm rests on this model. Whereas sager's chassis looks like it could have been made 4 years ago(which isn't necessarily a bad thing, considering a lot of things are better when made simpler), again a personal preference. I did wish that the asus traded in the vga ports for dvi like on the sager though.

    However to hard core enthusiasts, i guess that kind of stuff wouldn't matter if you're just looking for the best of the best in raw power.

    To me, stuff like how the gpu is underclocked in the g51, doesn't really matter that much to me. In the end it's still a GTX260m. I could care less if it had 50 more 3dmark06 points or a few fps increase in Crysis.
     
  37. Warhammer40k

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    Thats just not true if you wanted to do as close to an apples to apples comparison with everything as equal as possible (30 day dead pixel, 2 year parts and labor w/ 1 year FULL Accidental Protection, 1920x1080 screen, 4GB RAM, CPU, HDDs) then you would be talking about the difference of:

    X1A = $844 cheaper
    X2A = $774 cheaper
    A1 = $814 (includes current $100 rebate).

    Now the Sager has an arguably better cooling solution, a user upgradeable GPU(but supported is another question), DDR3 Ram (not very noticable and very $$$$$ to upgrade compared to DDR2) but supports DVI. It also doesn't offer FULL accidental protection in its 2year it only covers the LCD. On the A1 it offers less HDD. It also doesn't have a backlight keyboard (if you like that) nor a number pad.

    Even if you threw out the 30 day 0 dead pixel (which is a pricey upgrade) anything comparable would be still over $500. Now you start throwing out other options then it really isnt an apples to apples comparision and you might as well compare the Sager to the X05 model and its still $500 cheaper.
     
  38. SteelersWorship

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    "Simply not true" is ignoring your "everything as equal as possible" argument as you introduce bias into your equations whereby the Sager ends with superior upgrades, not equal.

    - A 1920 x 1050 screen is not 1920 x 1200.
    Prices based on XoticPC's website then
    - DDR 3 is not DDR 2 but the price to upgrade the 8662 to 4 gigs is a whopping $ 55.
    - Same CPU, but 8662 receives AS5
    - To increase HDD space in the 8662 to G51 level is $ 20 or $ 35.

    In addition to the cost of an OS, I'm only seeing an additional $75 - 90 in price whereby the 8662 ends up with superior RAM, AS5, lower temps. The G51 on the other hand gets a lighted keyboard and number pad.

    Increased warranty protection is the only place you start to see costs rise significantly.
     
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    SteelersWorship, what is the 8662 build you are currently considering, and what is the overall price tag?
     
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    You just like to argue for arguement sake (no matter how poor it is).

    Your statement was extremely misleading as they are not the same less an OS unless you ignore everthing that the ASUS models offer. If you want to ignore these things and just compare price then why not compare the Sager to the Best Buy G51; and before you spout off about the CPU differences some would successfully argue that in game performance would be more impacted by only having 2GB of RAM (the Sager) then a lower clocked CPU (BB G51). I did mentioned the Sager benefits in my response as to avoid an agenda, so don't assume just because facts are what they are that it is a bias, things like:

    1. DDR3 RAM.
    2. Cooler Running.
    3. User Upgradeable GPU.
    4. DVI output.

    As I mentioned before one needs to try and get both models close to really make a "price only" comparison. You trying to paint a picture of an exact match less the OS couldn't be further from the truth.

    Now in your rebuttle you seem to be very nit picky about things, you didn't seem to mind that in your price equal Sager it only had a 1680x1050 LCD compared to the G51 1920x1080 OLED but now your ready to nit pick the difference between 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 which is a negligable difference as both would be considered FULL HD.

    In your price equal Sager you felt 2GB of RAM was comparable to 4GB of RAM which is just innane. While the Sager does offer DDR3 as opposed to DDR2 the real world performance difference has been argued not to be overly significant. There is however a significant difference in performance between only having 2GB of RAM as opposed to 4GB especially when running the Vista OS. (Win7 will use slightly less iirc).

    Also in your comparable Sager you felt that 250GB @5400 with an 8MB cache was comparable to a 320 or 640HDD @ 7200 with an 16MB cache, which is not the case while performance may not be that significant depending on what you are doing, these are not entirely comparable products.

    Then you ignore the warranty totally. 3 years labor 1 year parts is no where near 2 year parts and labor with 1 year accidental protection (2 years overnight shipping both ways as well). I do not believe that outside the first year Sager pays shipping either way let alone overrnight.

    Now I was forthright in adding that the average consumer may not find much benefit in a 0 dead/bright pixel warrenty but I can't ignore that ASUS offers it. I did mention that even if you forgo it the price difference would be $XXX while trying to keep everything else as close as possible.

    Then there are the intangibles like the lack of a numeric keypad (a must for some) and a backlight chiclet keyboard (some love some like me could care less) on the Sager, since there is no way to "upgrade" these even if you wanted them.

    While the Sager is a great machine and may perform slightly better and slightly (or not so slightly) cooler when built to match the G51 it will be significantly more expensive. Unless you don't care about a full HD screen, accidental damage protection, a 0 dead/bright pixel warranty, etc, then it will only be a few hundred more.
     
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    What i dont understand is newegg site says the a1 is 1699.00 and i bought the exact same thing from a reseller in miami for 1590.00 below are the specs.
    ASUS G51VX A1 - Core 2 Quad Q9000 / 2 GHz - RAM 4 GB - HDD 320 GB + 320 GB - DVD±RW / DVD-RAM - GF GTX 260M - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : Bluetooth, 802.11b/g/n (draft) - Vista Home Premium - 15.6" Widescreen TFT 1920 x 1080 - camera.

    Am i missing a component or newegg is just 109 dollars over priced?
     
  43. Warhammer40k

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    It doesn't look like you are missing anything.

    Also NewEgg pricing is sometimes a crap shoot. It would not be out of the ordinary for either NewEgg or Reseller X to be more or less expensive while maintaining the same specs.

    The A1 has a base spec which is what NewEgg provides, other resellers will allow a customer to customize certain components (CPU, RAM, HDD, Optical Drive) at a premium.

    I would assume that the reseller is not taking into account the $100 rebate for the A1 model in their price. I know some business will lower the upfront cost to the consumer by the amount of a manufacturers rebate with the assumption they are submitting it for you and keeping it for themselves as they already passed the "savings" on to you upfront (Im not sure this practice is still done).
     
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    Now the real question is what am i going to do with my bestbuy version g51 :). Unless if anyone living in thailand wants to buy it :)
     
  45. TevashSzat

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    @Steelerworship You clearly haven't done it.

    Sager NP8662 with

    - 15.4" WUXGA "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Screen (1920x1200)
    - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    - ~Intel® Q9000 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Quad 2.0GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB
    - nVidia GeForce GTX 260M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10
    - ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
    - ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
    - ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    - ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed
    - 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)

    Costs $1,861 without the Asus Warranties and second 320Gb 7200rpm hard drive

    Standard ASUS G51VX-A1 costs $1,589.

    Thats a difference of $262 already and would be more if you threw in another 320Gb harddrive and better warranty for the Sager.

    The Asus costs less. Enough said. There is nothing to argue about.
     
  46. ChinNoobonic

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    has anyone noticed that the g51vx-x1a is now $1299!!!!
     
  47. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    oh good lord ive been gyped.


    Still the same price on GenTech.
     
  48. Chef

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    Even better with the Bing cashback.
    Does anyone know if some promo codes work for the laptop as well?
     
  49. FxPower

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    must suck to read on such a res!!!!! go blind go blind
     
  50. ChinNoobonic

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    newegg is now out of stock again with the x1a's :(. man they sell fast.
     
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