Official Waiting for N82JV Thread

Notebookjournal.de who previewed (and will be reviewing next week) the US N82JV model mention that it has a 63 Wh, i.e. an 8 Cell battery, right?

http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/notebook-preview-asus-n82j-nkrt-1126

Still hoping

 

With an 8-cell battery and Optimus, the N82 should last an average of 5 hrs on moderate use (no hard core gaming).

Of course, that assumes that it comes with an 8-cell battery (yet to be confirmed). Also, Anandtech did a review of Optimus and determined that it yielded about 20% greater battery life on average.

I had hoped the improvement in battery life would have been greater.

 

It would depend on the GPU. AnandTech's review had the 310M, which isn't very power-hungry; the difference will be greater with the 330M vs IGP.

Also, I'll be a little disappointed if the CPU has to be the i7-620M; it will raise the price and it's a more power-hungry CPU than the i5s.

 

Good point on the GPU in that Anandtech test review on Optimus, Lackofcheese.

I'm not sure if I'd be disappointed or not if the N82 only came with the i7-620. Yes, it drains more power than an i5, but it's more powerful AND it essentially runs as cool as the i5.

In the end though, I'd probably want a longer battery life for the N82, so I guess I would be disappointed in the end (but I would still consider getting it).

 

The price remains to be seen, I don't know why the N61JQ is so cheap, I recall adding up OEM prices for the LCD, video card, and CPU alone and it came to something like 700 dollars. That's not including anything else.

As for the power consumption, I tend to think the difference between the i7 and i5 is not much different, being both dual core CPUs and having a great deal of throttling built in.

 

Well, Notebookcheck shows a big difference in power consumption, which is definitely not desirable. If possible, I'd rather save $100 and get the 520M.

 

I am somewhat skeptical about that review. I am waiting for the new Sony Z owners to start posting benchmarks so we can compare the I7-620M and the I5-540M, head to head in identical machines pushing identical GPU's. They are getting their machines now so we should have good data soon.

 

I'm skeptical too, but even if the power consumption was the same the difference wouldn't be worth $100 to me.

 

One won't really need those 8 logical/4 physical cores in the games that can play well in the N82, much more on day-to-day use.

To the i7-620M & i5-540M: Stress both systems and you'll get interesting results

 

Huh? the i7-620M is a dual-core.

 

There's N82Jq with i7-720QM

 

True, but it hadn't been mentioned for a while.
Nonetheless, I wonder how the N82JQ will handle heat.
Also, the i7 means the JQ won't have switchable graphics, which makes me wonder why ASUS is bothering with the model. I guess they're appealing to the quad-core fetishists ^_~

 

Well, in Malaysia there's Dell Studio 14 that can be equipped with i7-820QM, so I don't think heat is much of a problem for N82...

 

Ah, but even the larger Dells have had heat and throttling issues with the quad-cores.
Plus, the N82 has the GT 335M vs the HD 4530 in the Dell, which is a significant jump in graphics power, and likely power consumption.

 

But keep in mind, the new Asus IceCool technology is handling heat issues pretty well in their latest N models!

imo the N82JQ will come with a real Quad Core and no switchable gfx.
N82JV with Core i7 620M != Quad Core but switchable gfx

 

Yeah, the switchable graphics situation is pretty obvious from the ASUS World magazine specs and the fact that the quad cores don't have IGP.

However, even if the N61JQ does a pretty good job with heat, 14" is a lot less room to work with than 16". In any case, I do think that ASUS has a good chance of doing much better with heat in the N82Jv than Lenovo has with the Y460, at least.

 

I believe the i7 620M is a dual core CPU, the fastest one available.

 

@lackofcheese: Sorry, wasn't paying attention to the i7 variant number. The Y460's predecessor the Y450's had the same problem with the same class of GPU. I don't think they did a lot of redesigning with it, and could explain why again 14" Y series run hot.

Lol, the i7-620M a dual-core. It is expected that small machines with quad cores run hot. The CPU and GPU would probably share the same heatsink, and would therefore rack up temps.

Core i5s sounds reasonable enough. If they want an i7, go get something bigger.

 

Well, if ASUS have separate heatsinks, it should be okay for the dual-core version, and perhaps even the quad-core.

 

Doubt it. Such features are reserved for gaming machines which require that kind of cooling.

They just need to fit a good heatsink in dissipating heat and not more or a larger one. If we want it a lot cooler, we can try undervolting, thermal paste, etc.

 

Hmm... all standard 32nm i3/i5/i7 dual core processors have 35W TDP. Sounds like the old T7300/T7500/T7700 deal again, different speeds but similar heat dissipation. I think, anyway.

 

I've heard the Acer TimelineX will have separate heatsinks. If Acer, of all companies, can do it, then surely ASUS can?
As for the TDP, that doesn't tell you everything about the processor. I don't quite trust Notebookcheck's numbers, but they suggest the i7-620M is a lot more power-hungry than the i5s.

 

With all this talk of heat, might it be a good idea, if I'm buying from xoticpc, to spring for the 35 bucks to get the IC Diamond Thermal Compound? Do those upgrades actually make a difference? And is there a downside to them?

 

There is no downside to them AFAIK.

The difference in temperature would be something like 5 - 10 Celsius, from what I have read. Fairly significant.

 

My brother convinced his company to get him an N82 (they lease Asus equipment from a local company). It will probably be an I5-540M. I convinced my company (a/k/a me) to get the Acer 3820TG, probably with the I7-620M (but am still considering an I5-540M, depending on which is available when released). Should be interesting to see who gets theirs first and to set them side by side and run performance benchmarks.

Bronsky

 

end of April ? You're not serious !!? I can't wait more !!

In canada, what laptop can be a good alternative ? (light, cold, good video card) ??

In canada, nothing is available ! (envy 15nd, sony vaio cw27, etc.) Maybe the futur acer timeline...

 

Who said anything about end of April?

 

Surprised no one mentioned the Samsung R480. It is still on my list for consideration, and has been available since CES:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=457376

 

I looked at that too, but decided that the N82JV probably matches it for price and beats it in all areas of performance, including battery life, since the R480 doesn't have Optimus.

 

Yeah I Already checked that, It's in special often on Ncix, but is heavy for a 14 inch (more than asus n81) , touchpad and screen are not terrible (that's what I read, but I didn't find a lot of review of that)

and the thread about this model was closed for few weeks (I don't understand why)

 

I read that on this forum (but on another thread) I will paste the hyperlink when I found it again.

 

Thread was closed because the original thread creator was banned: nothing to do with the thread itself, but something else apparently.

From what I have seen so far on it, it has gotten fairly decent word of mouth. From an Asus point of view, it doesn't have the USB3 though.

 

If that is the case I just might buy that stupid MSI GX640 instead. Supposedly that thing's also coming out in at the end of April.

On the other hand, since some Malaysian retailer supposedly is getting their shipment next week, we can always hope that... ehh... maybe end of THIS month, like they told us (although they also told us end of Feb before )

 

Why you said that the GX640 is a stupid thing?

it is a really nice powerfull laptop with a nice built quality and warranty.

 

MSI build quality is spotty. Check out all the threads where owners were coming up with crazy fixes to support sagging, flexing keyboards in some models.

The credit card, masking tape, superglue fix is my favorite.

 

I was very close to buying an HP Envy 15 this morning, but ultimately the battery life and the rumoured SATA controller issue put me off. I guess I was hoping for more like 5-6 hours.

Still, the Envy 15 has lower weight and 1080p going for it over the MSI GX640. The MSI GE600 might be of interest as well, though, with switchable graphics - if MSI does a good job on it.

If worst comes to worst and nothing is quite up to scratch, I might just buy the Acer AS5740G for ~$700. At that price, many flaws can be forgiven.

 

Ya, that. Also, if the thing breaks down, the user base for ASUS is much larger than MSI, at least on this forum. We would have better fixes for things. Also, it seems like MSI's presence in Canada is non existent, so we have to send notebooks (at our own cost) to the states for repair. That's all.
Also, they got their infamous touchpad wear and other issues like hinges going busted, etc

 

Don't settle for anything less than the best, Lack. You're worth it.

Get the Envy 15 or at the very least, the N82.

Don't settle. Life's too short.

 

Not settling might lead to a life not having anything

 

Yeah, even the Envy 15 is settling, to an extent.
Also, "the best" for me would entail the VAIO Z right now, but that would still be settling when it comes to game performance.

 

If it doesn't get here until June, I'm taking either an Acer or an MSI. The 5650 looks really tempting vis-a-vis the 335M.

 

If it doesn't get here until June I'm definitely not buying it. I am getting angrier by the day: right now I have a semester of internship during which I can game, and my summer semester's infamously hard (engineering). I want something, like, SOON.

 

im very close to getting the CW, the only thing thats stopping me is battery life, asus come one, ive been waiting for 2 months already

 

I think this could be interesting for some



Battlefield:Bad Company 2
medium details, 1xAA, 1xAF, HBOA out @ 1280 x 800 -> 41fps

 

http://tinyurl.com/ye64np2

Should I jump on the N61 or wait for the n82? I really want the 14'' screen.. but who knows when its coming to stores?

 

If you're looking for the perfect laptop (powerful CPU/GPU combination, light, portable, long battery life), be prepared to wait, because it doesn't exist currently.

The N82 should be here by end of April 2010 at latest.

Still, have you considered the Envy 15 2nd Generation? Battery life is 3 hrs. Relatively short but reasonable considering its powerful CPU/GPU combination (i5 / ATI 5830). Plus its light (5.17 lbs) and has a 156 inch screen with 1920x1080 resolution. No internal optical drive though.

That's nice to see that the N82 can play BFBC2 well. I believe the Envy 15 2nd Gen can play it better though (55+ fps).

 

It's not that hard huh? You can't complain GT335M with HD5830

 

the n82jv cant play BF2 at 1280x800

but i do get its point, the 335m is a powerful card, well powerful enough for my needs

 

Why can't play it?

 

Hmm..

Late april for the n82jv? Jesus..

The N61-x2 is a lot cheaper than the Envy 15.. but I could get the Envy 15 from HP a lot sooner. But I really want the 14'' screen with the n82..

Why is the perfect laptop for me not available yet?