Official Waiting for N82JV Thread

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From this thread, I found out that Acer's 3820Tand 4820T are on Acer's site now: Core i CPUs, HD 5650/5470 with switchable graphics, and a 6000mAH hour battery and a claim of up to 8 hours battery life.

If not for ASUS' 2-year global warranty and the use of NVIDIA Optimus switchable graphics, this Acer would completely kill the N82Jv for me. As things stand, though, I'm going to have to wait and see to make a decision.

 

On your first page itself you are speculating ( seems like...) as its not officially out till now. btw what do you mean by ' my thread' Sometimes here @ NBR I have seen people say like this ' its my thread' ... funny.

I had just asked what is so special about this model, which it has and its competitors do not have.

 

Thanks for those links. If they are available sooner than the N82 I might have my choice made for me. I have to travel in April and I'll need a laptop by the time I leave. Both those links seem to point to the 3820, though.

Is there an ETA on them?

Some of us care more about the specs than packing pixels into as small a space as possible or using laptops in the dark.

 

I do agree that this seems like a silly debate where both sides are jabbing at each other in places BUT where they should be. Yes, OPs don't own the thread, Yes, the information is there, Yes, URPradhan should do his own research, No it doesn't hurt to tell him.

The thing ASUS has over its competitors are simply USB3.0, and that 2 Year Global warranty - I can buy it in America, break it in Australia, repair it in Japan.

We (roughly) know the battery life, because several sources have stated that it's going to have an 8 cell battery; so we extrapolate based on the N61, which has similar specs.

 

No idea about the ETA, but here's a fixed link for the 4820; it seems that Acer's site is dodgy w.r.t. links.

Just to summarize the answer to URP's question:
Once you limit things to 13-14", Core i CPU and midrange switchable graphics, you're already in a very restrictive category; from memory, you're stuck with the Lenovo Y460, Acer Timeline 3820/4820, ASUS N82 and the VAIO Z (Feel free to name any others you know of). The N82Jv has 2-year global warranty, USB3.0, and NVIDIA Optimus going for it, which is why it's the most promising laptop in this category, at least to me. However, depending on pricing and availability, I'd be willing to settle for any of the others. Besides that, all of the above are 1366x768, except the VAIO Z. Plenty of people would like, say, 1440x900 or 1600x900, but at what cost?

 

Thank you very much lackofcheese for this explanatory post. there are lots of cheese in it, indeed

 

Nice find, thanks a lot!

I need a 13" (or 14" if 13" not available) chassis with power, though I don't have first hand info on Acer quality, guess I'll have to go through Acer threads to find out.

Sorry if being incompetent, but does Optimus switching mean "that" much? I mean, in order to save power, I want the dedicated GPU to be switcehd off all the time no matter what, therefore, in these situations I wouldn't like the system to decide itself when "I" (or shall I say "it") would like to switch on the GPU and by this, drain more power.

As for the guarantee, I believe guarantee extension would solve the matter, the only thing I'm concerned about a bit - as mentioned above - is the built quality, but I'm sure the NBR forum helps me with this.

Sorry again if I was incompetent about Optimus, I assume it's really usefull, I just don't know much about it, explanations welcome.

 

To me, yes, Optimus matters. If you want to know more, I find PCPerspective's article has some good benchmarks and detail.
The automatic switching in Optimus is convenient, and doesn't have the old issues with delays or blocking programs. I believe you'll still have the option of manual switching if it's desired, but if you look at PC Perspective's browsing test (which seems like some very heavy browsing indeed; AnandTech did a test where it lasted 10 hours), battery life was pretty much the same between Optimus and IGP only, if not slightly longer for Optimus. I suspect that the reason for this is that in most of the situations where discrete graphics would be enabled, the discrete graphics would be taking load off the CPU, and hence actually saving power on the CPU. You might lose a little battery life with a more powerful GPU, but it's worth it.

With regards to warranty, it isn't so much the 2 years as the global nature of ASUS' warranty that matters to me.

 

Performance wise one can know because you know the components.
Price can be estimated too.

Only things you have to wait for is, the display, buildquality, noise, heat and battery life.

Which 14'' does offer switchable, full HD (which is not good for gaming anyways) and a backlit keyboard besides the new super expensive Vaio Z?

Other competitors with the Asus N82 would be the Acer 3820T/4820T (if there is a Travelmate version with matt screen, i would go for that) and the Lenovo Y460.

 

Thanks, I'm convinced, though the HD 56xx or the 57xx are better than the GT 335M, but overall You're right, Optimus should be the way to go.

BTW does anyone have info about N82 available with backlit keyboard?

 

The Asus world magazine just shown on this threat... http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=465353

...says that the N82 won't have the 57xx but rather a high end Nvidia 400's series.

Which card could this be?

 

I see 335M listed under the N82. The N43 has a Nvidia 4xx listed, which also means its release date is ages away. Lack of ATI card on it is certainly right, and was easily expected.

 

N43JF has the 400's series, which is probably an upgrade to the Nvidia 300 series I suppose. Since N43 is also 14 inches, I am definitely interested. Hope it got dx11 support.

 

It looks like you were looking at the N43. The only video card listed for the N82 is the nVidia 335.

It does appear that the N82JQ will have a quad core i7 from that, though.

 

I really want to buy a laptop right now, should i jump for the Vaio CW? Or wait for the n82?

 

I figured quad-core was a good bet given the "Q".
It's interesting that there's the A42JV, K42JV, and N82JV, all with Core i5 CPUs and Nvidia GT 335M cards.
As far as I can tell, the A42JV and K42JV are exactly the same, while the N82JV also offers USB 3.0 and "SonicMaster" and "Video Magic".

 

please asus, please, release the n82 in black and not just brown, pretty please, please, please,

 

the crowd demands a fire red chassis with flamboyant orange highlights

 

It depends on Your needs...

If You ask me, I waited for the XPS 13 refresh, told it's due the next half of the year, then came Vaio CW, almost pulled the trigger, then came ASUS N82, Acer 4820T, and Lenovo IdeaPad Y460.
All of them with Core i5 / i7 CPUs, GPUs with 1 Gb VRAM ( GT 335 or HD 5650), all of them supported switching, the N82 with Optimus even.

In my case, Vaio CW cons:
- bit slower CPU
- no switchable graphics
- slower GPU with less VRAM (512 Mb I believe)
- definatelly a fingerprint magnet if not ordered in white (and You can call that ultimate regarding the palmrest)

If You don't need Your laptop to have "that" powerfull CPU and GPU with the best battery life possible (due to switching option), and need the machine right now, I think You won't be dissapointed with the Vaio CW.

 

Seems like at Malaysia already got seller selling N82Jv, roughly US$1200 converted, usually Asus notebook here is more expensive than US...

N82Jv-i520WHP4G64GDL RM3999 -- RM3849
14" HD Color Shine (LED)
i5-520M (2.40 GHz (Turbo up to 2.93GHz)/L2: 3M) new platform
DDR3 4GB (2Gx2)
640G
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 335M 1GB DDR3 VRAM
8xSuper Multi-Dual
ASUS 802.11b/g/n
Win 7 Home Premium(64bit)
BlueTooth / 2.0M WebCam / 6 Cell 4400mAH
USB 3.0 (10 times faster than USD 2.0)

 

Do you have link to that site? First time I have seen it configured with a 6-cell battery. Strange!

 

link
Only sell locally though,

Yup, I also feel weird with the 6-cell, perhaps just a typo.

 

Well, go buy one and write up a full review!

 

haha, still not my time to change notebook
I'll let the others to do it

 

6 cell battery would be sad.....8 cell should be standard.

 

In all honesty, though.. I think that 4xx series is a typo. I mean a 14" entertainment notebook's just such a strange place for a new "4xx high end card" to show its face first, isn't it? And that products list they posted also proclaims various things like "grapihics performance", etc, so I think a typo is highly likely.
The desktop 4xx series is still having lots of trouble with heat management and hasn't come out yet. I remember back with the 8 series the desktop version came out something like at least half a year before the mobile version. So it'd be odd if they posted a notebook like that in the March/April list.

 

It's possible.
A lot more possible than other propositions made in this thread (57xx in N82. Bah! I told you so). There's been a lack of high end 3xx cards in the first place, which is why I also think it's possible. The other explanation is that Nvidia told Asus to prepare something; and they just played along.

 

Well, the 57xx was not so much a proposition as what an ASUS employee said at the CEBIT. At that point it would be reasonable to conclude that the ASUS employee would not be mistaken.

 

does the n82 have switchable graphics? how is the battery life? 2-3 hour laptops are kind of pointless to be honest. And on that note, how well do Asus batteries hold up over time? I've been looking at the ul30jt for a long time but was disappointed by the video card.

 

Or they could've rebranded the 300M series with higher clocks given the timeframe. Stuff like these are nothing more to generate hype on the product, which of course would sell more to those looking for "new" technology.

 

The N82 has optimus autoswitching graphics. The battery life should be decent if your not using the GT 335M all the time. I understand your dissatisfaction over the anemic 310M in the UL30JT.

 

The problem with this is that Nvidia skipped over the 3xx series for desktops. No one knows why, but we assume that it's because the 3xx Mobiles were a rebranding of the 2xx, which was a rebranding ..(rest omitted, you get the idea).

Now, Nvidia have also said that Fermi will be 4xx. Why go through all that trouble to skip 3xx if you're going to confuse them anyway? Only explanation for that is if they've decided mobile Fermi was impossible...and from what I've heard, there's a chance that it's true.

 

I wouldn't doubt this... It'll be interesting to see what happens with their mobile GPUs beyond the 335m... Whether they keep updating them based on 300m technology or whether they get out of the market altogether since Intel seems to be getting more interested in mobile GPUs, and let them and ATI/AMD hash it out. That seems to be what they're doing in the mainstream/gaming GPU market for desktops now. But anyway... That's getting off topic

 

Huh? There's a 360M for the G51JX. Which makes it all the more disappointing that they're shoving 335Ms into everything. But yeah, might as well try and stay on topic. Like the other third of this thread.

 

Perhaps the 335M is the most cost-effective for NVIDIA to produce?

 

no news on release date?

 

so i have been waiting for this bad boy for a while but idk how much longer i can wait. Today i was looking at a dell studio 14 with an i7-72QM, 500GB (7200) Hard Drive, 4GB DDR3 at 1333mhz and 512MB ATI Radeon HD 4530 all for $999. Should i wait for the N82 or get the dell? I think that dell is a great deal but i have never owned a dell laptop so im not really sure.

 

That's a decent deal, but the HD 4530 is a far weaker graphics card than the 335M; it's weaker than even the 310M. You'd want better if you were thinking of gaming.

 

It depends on what you will be using your notebook for. A quad-core processor paired with a low-end graphics card (barely better than the integrated graphics on the 32nm Core i3 and i5s) is an odd combination that does not really offer any advantages. If you played games, then the HD 4530 will be a severe bottleneck, but if you don't play games or otherwise make use of the i7-720QM's 8 threads, then the i7 produces far too much heat for what you will be using your notebook for.

Graphics benchmark list: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

tl;dr: The Dell has components that don't really complement each other, so I can't recommend it. Plus, you can buy much better configurations with $999.

 

Today there are so many great notebooks out that will meet and/or exceed the specs on that model. The Studio 14 is brand new and I would really worry about heat from the i7-720 in such a small form factor, Dell not being known for good ventilation. Check out Core i5 and i7 models from SONY (CW), ASUS (N61, K42, others - check Amazon, Tiger, Newegg), Toshiba (e205), Lenovo (Y550 - core i7's were getting blown out for $750 two weeks ago, but I think that's over now). Within 30-60 days I predict that competition will bring at least 10 $1,000 ball park 14-16" notebooks with i5s, medium *switchable* discreet graphics (better than the 4530 by far - if you are not a gamer at all, consider the new Intel HD igp and save heat and battery life), bluray players and some will have 1600X900 screens, backlit keyboards. These specs were the province of $1,500-2,000 slightly larger (15-17.3") models less than a year ago. Gotta love Moore's Law! Be a little patient. Good luck!

 

If You're fine with the HD 4530 GPU, then it's a good deal, although other notebooks announced in the past days/months would have much better GPU, I think You wouldn't have to wait more than 1-1.5 months and they'll be available, so If You could delay Your purchase a bit more I think Your wait will pay off.

 

Will the N82 have gig networking? From this thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=465353

The specs only show 10/100 ethernet. Didn't previous versions of this machine (N80, N81) have gig ethernet?

 

Yes! N81VP and current series of N61 & N71 have got Gigabit Lan.

I doubt the 10/100 ethernet thing on that Asus sheet is true...
I am hoping this is also a typo like the 6 cell battery thing here

*edit*
I found some very nice pictures - enjoy

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Looks nice, except for the brown cover. I hope that will be optional.

 

Nice pics! Good find.

I hope the trackpad is smooth and not embossed with that design.

 

Man, why can't they just put a damn white cover on there

EDIT: OMG, THAT... THAT IS NOT AN EIGHT CELL BATTERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel so scammed...........................................

 

leaning towards the timeline as of the moment, come on asus give me something that will make me want to buy your notebooks

if it can give me around 4 hours of batt life using intel HD graphics then im good

but if they dont have this in another color other than brown, im definitely waiting for the timeline. interiors look okay but that lid is just ugly

 

Acers new Timeline series looks pretty good, but I am really missing an eSata port or USB 3.0 intead.
Or did I miss something and 3820/4820 has an eSata/USB 3.0 or express card slot?
That's why I'm ogling more to the N82.

It won't be optional, the brown is on all pictures and I am very sure it will delivered in brown...

Yes that was exactly how I was feeling as I came to that picture...
OMG fawk crappy 6 cell 4400mAh

 

Easy now

I'm pretty sure it's a typo, all other specs been with 8 Cell.

This picture is from the Asus stand at Cebit 2010 last week: http://www.notebookjournal.de/storage/show/image/image4b8d5a4edb81d

8 Cell battery