Release date and price for N6 Series?!

That's a product placement decision. Buy the G series if you are a gamer.

ddr3 vs ddr5: if 1080p is bottlenecked by ddr3, how in the world newer games ran fine on ddr3 so far? Can you post some proof that ddr3 is a bottleneck for any modern game at this time at 1080p?

I think you want something for some benchmark boasts and you are not getting it and making a big scene out of it. Asus is not going to change their product lines just because someone wants ddr5 on their laptops. You better look elsewhere.

 

dude! thanks for showing me that, might just get that

 

i already stated way back that i will be going for the gigabyte p2542g, not making a scene, just hoping that asus will come to its sense and realize that some people are gamers but also want portability

also, if you look at many of the current fermi cards, like the 550 or 555, most of them with DDR3, you will see games like crysis2 or metro are practically unplayable at 1080p. i've wanted to play crysis 2 for a while, but my laptop is an old 3650 with DDR2


ok so after half an hour of digging through reviews and different cards, i found two:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-Aspire-5943G-Notebook.36208.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX640-i5447LW7P-Notebook.30776.0.html

both have the ATI 5850 (cant find any nvidia that i can compare). one has the DDR5, the other has DDR3 ( although the DDR 5 has a memory clock that is 200mhz faster).

The DDR5 has a [email protected] and DDR3 has [email protected] (the i7 CPU is better than the i5)

The DDR3 machine also has more and faster RAM (not sure if this effects the results much)

if you look at the benchmark, you will see the DDR5 is around 20% (give or take) faster, even though everything on the DDR5 machine (from CPU to RAM) is inferior to the DDR3. The only thing better on DDR5 machine is that it has a 200mhz faster graphics memory clock

p.s. forgot to add that the DDR3 machine has a 5400RPM drive vs the 7200 one for the DDR5 machine

 

silverfern: have u looked at http://forum.notebookreview.com/sam...series-7-nike-laptops-17-3-model-np700z7.html

That has GT650M. Its looks great as well.

 

yeah i saw that, but i have to stick to a maximum of 15.6 inch, because i might/will have to carry it around everyday. I have a 14.1 inch right now, i carried it up a mountain last week, almost killed me, and also broke the stupid hard drive

 

also, from

Review Acer Aspire 5943G Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

quote:
"In the GPU score of 3DMark Vantage the Radeon HD 5850 DDR3, with 5056 points, can position itself ahead of the Radeon HD 5650 by around 70% with 2899 points. With GDDR5-VRAM the Radeon HD 5850 would admittedly be once more 40% faster (7089 points)."

up to 40% it says, over my estimate of 20%

 

You are way overestimating the difference between a mid-level GPU with DDR3 and GDDR5. The reason those cards cannot run Crysis 2 or Metro 2033 well has nothing to do with memory bandwidth.

Those games run like crap at high settings on those GPUs even at 720p. They're bottlenecked by their own lack of compute power (too few CUDA cores to process too many effects) and ROPs (also too few to output the number of pixels in a Full HD frame at a high framerate).

Faster memory can help but if the GPU lacks compute power it's pointless.

I had a laptop with 8600m GT with DDR3 at 700MHz and a friend of mine had one with DDR2 at 400MHz. In 3D Mark 06 my card had a 20 to 25% higher score than his. But playing games they were barely different.

Compute power has a much bigger impact in mid-level GPUs. With high-level GPUs since compute power is not a bottleneck, memory bandwidth becomes much more important.

 

For the same money you buy a serie g, it's prefer to buy a clevo...

One review with real games for the VM model made today. What is interesting is the people who made that review believe that VZ version is with GDDR5 version, they probably be confused lol
The new the IVB platform carry strong for ASUS N56 notebook evaluation (8) | Inside China

The chassis confirmed to be silver aluminium and the VM version will have a different processor i7-3720QM
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2403337,00.asp

 

It depends because if you read the manual link I posted that manual covers 4 models of the N56.
We only know of the VM and VZ so far, so what are the other 2 models?
Maybe it's wishful thinking but there could very well be a model that as 650M with DDR5.

Either way I think I'll get the Samsung '17 Chronos, it has everything that I want and in some cases even better.
The audio sounded good as well

 

is there a 15 in chronos or w/e? my max is 15

 

I read something about a '15 Chronos with 1GB DDR5 650M, but can't recall where I read it.

Not 100% sure it was a 650M, but pretty sure it's a 1GB DDR5 nVidia card.
Sleepy as hell also, just came off a plane 2 hours ago without any sleep for the past 2 days.

Try Google otherwise I'll see if I can find the article once I'm more alive.

 

Sorry but there is another review, this one is better and much more complete...
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why is that 630 still 40nm?

 

the GT630 its still fermi, a rebrand aka GT540, only the 640 and 650 are kepler

 

memory bandwidth is important as well, but a DDR3 vs DDR5 will still at least give a 15~30% increase in performance

also what game were you playing? lower end game wont feel much of a difference, like quake 3, but if you go to more recent games you will

 

interesting, i was under the impression the 630 is also kepler

edit: i think 630 has both 28 and 40nm version right?

 

wrong... NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

640M is the one who has 28nm and 40nm version.

640M LE (Fermi) - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-640M-LE.72199.0.html

640M (Kepler) - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-640M.71579.0.html

 

from notebookcheck, first sentence:

The NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M is a relatively fast middle class graphics card for laptops. Currently it can be based on three different chips with different specifications and performance values. The GF108 version (a renamed GT 540M) features 96 shaders while the GF106/GF116 version (a renamed GT 550M) features 144 shaders. Furthermore, the newer 28nm Fermi-based GF117 variant will be available as well with significantly reduced power consumption

 

I second this. If there's a Chronos that looks like that in a 15-inch chassis, I'd definitely consider it

 

LOL I read it in other reviews before too, but I just realized they say "chocolate keyboard" instead of "chiclet"

 

the GF117 variant is the GT620M not the GT630...

NVIDIA GeForce GT 620M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

i think they feel the keyboard look like chocolate, similar to what apple has. Also they say the keyboard does have back light

if you guys need me to translate a certain paragraph, i can do that

 

GT 640M 1GB DDR5

 

is 1G enough?

 

Why wouldn't it be, it's a MULTIMEDIA segment laptop.
Which is bits and pieces of everything, but not particularly mind blowing in a certain area.

 

oh, then in that case 1G is fine then. I just feel manufactures need to start making more portable gaming machines. seems few manufacturer is doing that right now. i.e. for asus, they could combine the N series and G series and have higher and lower end models of the combined series, instead of having 2 series, which would compete with each other and limit the specs the company could put in them

 

1gb of VRAM is definitely enough. It's unnecessary that laptop manufacturers offer more than 1gb in the first place. In these benchmarks, for example, you can see that the 1 and 2 gb HD 6950's perform identically, even on the 2560x1600 resolution.
The only people who actually need 1+gb of VRAM are those who game on multi monitor setups.

 

it has a picture with it


btw I read Chinese pretty well just like you.

 

yes your username says it all, and whats your point?

 

This laptop will kick the asus in the a$$
Samsung Announces the Series 7 CHRONOS 17 Laptop | techPowerUp

 

I have actually been waiting for this laptop, anyone got a released date on it? I hope it is the 29th of April.

 

its nice but i dont like the size

 

The size is comparable to a 16 inch laptop since they use a thin bezel.
17'3 inch screen but the laptop size is that of what a 16 inch usually is.

To the other guy asking about release date, the laptop is already on sale in Germany and some of the Nordic countries.

And apparently the 15 inch model is already listed on Canadian Samsung site with IVB + GT-640M 1gDDR (refreshed model).
With that said it shouldn't be that long before website start listing it

On-Topic: I'm still curious to what the other models of the Asus will be and/or what GPU they will have.

 

try the 15.6 inch with the 660, thats the one that will really kickass

 

Anyone worried about all the holes around the keyboard? Interesting design scheme, but I just feel like all kinds of dust and crap might get in there. Or am I being deceived and the only "real" holes are where the speakers are?

Sent from my HTC Vivid

 

i saw on one review that they took the whole thing apart, and plus i suspect you will HAVE to take it all apart (keyboard and chasis) to clean the fans. thats a reason why i most likely wont be buying it

 

any laptops have that besides the gigabyte???

 

sager/clevo models, y580 and tahts all ik silver any updates on the gigayte?

 

no, apart from the fact i am most likely gonna get it maybe i can buy bulk and resell it to those in countries without gigabyte

no reason i will buy a 17~18 inch laptop when i can find better specs in a 15.6 inch. 17~18 wont even fit in my backpack!

also, i am not sure about this, but the Y580 can only support up to 8G RAM? i think gigabyte can do 16G

from gigabtye site: DDRIII, 2 slots (Max 8GB*2), this means 16G right? or does it mean up to 8G in 2 slots?

 

could you post the link?

 

what i dont get is how a 17.3 inch laptop could be shrunk to a 16 inch. 17 inch is 17inch, its screen has to be 17.3 inch, it can never become a 16 inch, no matter how thin the bezel is

 

It's referring to the edges around the screen. Laptops usually have a half inch or so of space between the LCD panel and the edge of the laptop.

A typical 17.3" laptop, say the HP dv7, has dimensions of: 16.4" x 10.7."
As for 15.6" laptops, the Gigabyte P2532N is 15.4" x 10.4", Dell XPS 15z is 15.15" x 10.25".

The Samsung 17" is 15.9" x 10.3", which could be the size of a typical 16" laptop.

 

ah that is small, but still the 2542 has 660, and its not korean

 

I was wondering the same thing. Anybody that has seen it in person that can give us an opinion about this?

 

I've been following Samsung's 17" too, but I thought we were talking about the N76

 

we get off track here a lot

 

the only problem with that laptop is that the primary hdd is a 1tb 5400rpm drive. I hope the hdd is user replaceble.

 

I think all laptop now have replaceable hdds

 

It's replaceable, look around in the Samsung section.
1knyong guy made a guide for the previous 15'' model which is pretty much the same with the 17'3.

Build quality in Asus are unusually great along with the screens.
But I'll still go with the Samsung time time around, just like the design more.