the new asus g51

G51 is sexy as hell.. came in last night at mine.
except it has a lot of "republic of gamers" logos engraved/whatever in different spots.

 

hey guys check out this Asus G60 Review from notebook journal. might give you guys an idea of performance and temps! it achieves 10.472 points in 3dmark06 with a t9400

G60 Internals:

 

wow that's ridiculous. If only BB had the G60

"temperatures never exceeded 40 C" !!!!
Something's gotta be different in that.

 

to these other supposed owners of the asus g51 laptop thats runs so perfectly cool, PROVE IT post pictures of hwmonitor 1.14 64 bit edition running while you run 3dmark 06, 3dmark03, play some crysis and try out DMC4 benchmark then post the temps then say the gpu is running cool, these newbies that keep saying this dont have a clue about temperatures and how a notebook is suppose to run, even my email from asus said there is something definitely wrong please send it to our engineers!!!

and if the only 3 people who have showed screen shots all have the same results then all the other first batch G51's will be the same! and as i posted before the laptop when the gpu gets up to 90c-100c does not feel warm ANYWHERE except for the hot air blowing out of the vent, but the air will not scorch or burn you.... the rest of laptop does not heat up when the gpu does because the fan sucks the air from under the bottom of laptop through the vent, over the gpu, cpu, hard drives and blows it back out!

 

Doesn't the interior look similar to the picture of the G50 posted by Sunny?
At least the heatsink on the gpu looks very similar imo.

 

yes it does.

here's sunny's shots for comparison:
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It looks pretty identical to be honest ... wow , it might be a sensor being off, or possibly just bad thermal paste application on the first batch. i'm not 100% but still i'd say we should test some temps with new thermal paste

 

After 90 minutes of FEAR2, my GPU is at 49 degrees celsius. That's Forty Nine Degrees. G51.

 

That's pretty damn good starfox. I guess I'm gonna pick up a G51 this weekend hopefully or at the most by next wednesday.

 

hmm try grid, crysis or dmc4 and tell us the temps after, they are more gpu intensive. make sure hwmonitor is running while doing this.

 

I stopped in a local bestbuy today and they had the G51 on display. I have to say, It's a really nice looking laptop in person. I still would like a higher resolution screen, but it really wasn't bad to use.

Maybe I'm just spoiled by my 24" 1920x1200

BTW:

The bestbuy junkware that they throw on the computers listed it as a G60 series but the model number on the actual machine was G51. It might be that they're pretty much the same machine.
They also had the U81 on display. As far as I can tell, it's a U80v with a T6400 processor and integrated GPU. They're claiming 7 hours of battery life on the tag for that one. They did not have the K50 or G71 on display.

 

you didnt apply new thermal paste did you?

 

in the pictures i thought that they were both the same ....

has anyone measured it to see if they match??

 

Oh, does anyone know if the HDMI port is 1.3 or 1.2?

 

That seems very low, maybe there is a fault in the temp probe/software.

Learux

 

if different thermal paste was capable of bring down the temp from 100 to 49... then the thermal paste asus must of been using for the g51 was like mud or something. Who knows maybe asus did screw up the thermal paste.

 

Once again the three of us who have posted all the same screenshots of hwmonitor 1.14 64bit edition running has shown the gpu gets up to 90-100c, all these newbies saying theres runs cool if you want to compare correctly PLEASE USE the same program as the first 3 of us G51 owners have in these msg threads and run the same things and post the temp readings from hwmonitor..

you cant just say it runs cool

we need facts and evidence so those of us with issues can get it taken care of. geesh..

 

this is very vague what im guessing is that you quit to desktop after playing it took a minute to find your temp program u used and then check temps after the fact which in desktop when the fan is full blast after playing a game it cools off the gpu quickly in desktop mode

 

I agree that some evidence needs to be shown, but also, on the same note, it is possible that HWMonitor is returning invalid numbers, or that the temperature sensor isn't reporting correctly? Have you tried using other temperature sensor programs such as the one included with the NVIDIA System Tools or Everest? (Not to discredit you or anything, maybe its just a problem with that application you are using, and if that is the case, it will show similiar results for different people on the same hardware.)

 

Update: Midgame, GPU is at 81C, declines rapidly as soon as I close FEAR 2 (down to 71 in 10 seconds), then reaches ~50 after a minute. Result obtained by keeping hw monitor on and alt-tabing back and forth. I don't have a copy of crysis handy, I might download the demo soon. Unit is stock, no modifications at all.

 

wow you got the hopes up of so many g51 fans -_-. this is why we say to run the monitors while playing games because the temps decrease rapidly

 

WOW man

i think that we have some hope

 

The u80v is suppose to have a diff cpu and a dedicated ati graphics card. Offical specs for us are not known yet. Also, they claimed a 6 hour battery life but reviews have shown 5->5.5 hours of battery life.

 

damn I thought we could hear someone having around mid 50s while in game but I guess that may be impossible.

 

Like I have said in earlier posts, I know there is too many... sorry..

ive tried gpu-z latest version to show temps

hwmoniotr 1.14 64bit
everest ultimate 5.02
realtemp

all of them are showing the same exact temps because they are all reading the exact same temp sensor..

I had a digital thermomter that goes up to 120f and while running furmark the gpu temps got up to 105c and the temp reading was too hot and went over 120f from the airvent with my digital thermo so couldnt get reading..

MY PC with a 9800gtx+ SC EVGA gpu got up to 87c after 5 minutes in furmark:
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Laptop with 260M GTX gpu got up to 105C after 5 minutes in furmark:
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GPU temps are not like CPU temps, different software should not read them differently. The reason is the GPU bios puts out the reading based on sensor data. With CPU temps the raw sensor data is output and has to be adjusted against the processors Tjmax, which is not reported. Either a database has to have it to be correct, or guess it. Most programs are adjustable. The P7350 for example should be set to 90C, hwmonitor needs its ini file edited while other apps can be adjusted.

 

This doesn't look good at all.... 58C looks real for idle GPU....which means 105C is really what's frying under

 

it doesn't at all. the m860tu peaks at 87C in furmark. ASUS do your damn job! >.<

 

do you think.. that will be a g51 or (better) a g60 with a fullhd display??
when it can be available??

thanks a lot!!!

 

Or wait for a G60 lol. Since the G60 never existed it should be a from scratch design. The cooling system has a better chance of providing for the GPU in a new design.

 

from the news ive been reading, it uses the same motherboard as the g51 and the same chasis. so since its not really released i hope asus does some improvements in the gpu area. from the review at notebook journal i posted, they're doing well so far with that model. no heating issues were brought up in the review, the said the vent didn't produce temps higher than 40C. hope they do this well with the future batches of g51's. if they do then they have me sold on it!

 

the G60 uses the same exact cooler! unfortunately..

 

Yes, and like I said earlier. I have a feeling that the G60 and G51 may just be different localized names. At bestbuy, their display model software claims the machine is a G60 when it's actually the standard G51 bestbuy model. That makes me suspicious enough right there.

I really did like the feel of this laptop too. I may still buy it if we figure out what's up with the temperatures.

Anyone know what version of HDMI this machine supports? 1.2? 1.3?

 

You're right.

 

@tizzao

yeah i was thinking the same thing

has any1 measured it ? im pretty sure they will be the same size

 

g60 dimensions:
Width - 15.28"
Depth - 10.55"
Height - 1.46" - 1.61"

g51 dimensions:
Width - 14.8"
Depth - 10.4"
Height - 1.6"

 

oh ok..... maybe not

 

I am really hoping that the g71 and g51 come out on Friday at places like newegg.com as well....

 

The G51 isn't available in the Netherlands, think imma go for the G60 then..

 

Damn...I was so getting in love with the G51...if that temp is real, the NP8662 definitely sounds better deal. @Startfox, are you sure that's the real temperature...even my G1S's 8600GT was throttling down and never reached 100 before I applied paste

 

Well, that's the Temp reported by HW Monitor..

 

Yeah I just saw the pics in the other thread, okay now thats semi retarted, So basically there is no G60 its a G51.5. That model is truly pointless, just a screen and a little plastic fatness.

 

Its all about the marketing with that one.

 

marketing with that one, referring to the g60?

 

hey sunnyc90 posted some new pics of the heat sink in the review thread of his g51. he says he will apply some AS5 and post the results later.

link here

 

I was just looking at the specs for the G71GX that GentechPC offers and apparently it uses the P43 northbridge (which doesn't support Intel VT), if the G71GX doesn't support Intel VT then I just got slammed in the face because I was really looking forward to getting that notebook, but I need Intel VT for some of the work I do.

Edit: Nevermind. It appears it does support CPU virtualization (Intel VT-x), just not hardware virtualization (Intel VT-d), but that doesn't really matter because I don't think my VM platform can utilize Intel VT-d anyhow.

I'm curious though as to why the G71GX uses a desktop chipset (P43) instead of a notebook chipset (PM45).

 

Yeah but that translated German review article stated that the G60 runs very cool and never reaches temperatures above 40 degrees. I am not sure what they were talking about, maybe they pushed a thermometer against the bottom of the laptop, but as you said yourself the laptop never gets physically hot, and neither does the air coming out of the exhaust.

 

Btw, the G51 bios has an "Enable VT-d" option.

 

Once you stick in a VT-x supported processor the VT-x option shows up as well.

 

I've been kind of skeptical about this supposed heat problem too.

Sunny said it never really felt that warm...heck no one has. I realize it is running quite hot internally, but it is only doing it during uber intensive games. So I do see concern if I were an avid gamer that plays the higher end games for hours on end. And if that were the case, then I'd opt for the longer warranty you can get from a reseller.

But from what I have been reading, Asus' cooling is pretty effective if it can drop the temp 40*C within one minute...and do it quieter than the other laptop in that German review. I find that pretty impressive in itself.

As for the G60, maybe it has better airflow due to the slightly (and I do mean slightly) larger case...so maybe that's why it runs cooler than these G51's. It's just another thought I'm throwing out there.