the new asus g51

I don't now why I have to post the whole E-mail, that stuff is private man.You add so much to these forums.I'm just going to just ignore the rest.
And I stand by everything I have posted.

 

sorry to ask, have the bios fix the heat issue?

 

No new BIOS update for the G51Vx has been released.

 

the overheat is due to the great gpu and weak procesor

 

Hello
Who know's serial number of internal bluetooth modul for this notebook (G51)?

 

No its not. It due to it being a laptop. Not that best airflow in a laptop case .

 

Hmm I've read through most (if not all :|) of this thread, and as far as I can gather the G51 does not have an 'overheating' problem. But rather, it runs hot under intensive gaming.

Am I correct in saying this? the GPU temperatures are normal during usual internet use, word processing etc right?

I'm sure many people like myself are putting the purchase on hold due to this heating 'problem', can someone (preferably who owns a G51) justify this purchase?

 

i got mine 5 days ago. it runs warm. It's a gaming laptop. My laptop with the cpu overclocked to 2.25 GHz runs at about 63-66c on internet surfing/ idle tasks. That is warmer than usual. but expected according to Asus.

in gaming, the GPU hits 90c before my fans really kick in; it does it regularly. I'm still a bit scared of it but it seems to be the "Norm" and expected. In a few months ill prolly get a cooler to be safe.

I dont think you have anything to be worried about, i still bought the 2 year warranty in case of some mishap.

 

probably the heat will lead the laptop downclock or lagg or blue screen a not?

 

Wrong again
Its Asus' subpar cooling.
Clevo uses the GTX 260M in their 15.4" laptop. It is higher clocked and still runs a good bit cooler.

 

No one has had that problem yet, at least on this forum.

 

which mean the Asus GTX260M performance is worse than clevo performance

 

Yes but for the price, BB Asus g51 is still the winner in my opinion.
The Clevo also has problems with HD overheating.
To me, the data in my HD is more important then my video card.

 

It's also hundreds of dollars more than the G51. It would be stupid to expect the G51 to have the same performance as the M860TU for about $400 less.

 

You need to calm down and start treating other forum members with respect. There are superior ways of disagreeing with people. This is a public forum, not your personal venting ground. I do not know why you are on the offense and have such a seething attitude, but if I see more of it, I will ban you.

If this guy continues to cause problems for any of you (talking down, being dismissive, etc), send me a PM immediately.

 

Oh snap!

Anyways, if I am not able to use a notebook cooler will the heat from the g51 be a very big deal? As in I wouldn't be able to play games for more than an hour cause of the heat?

 

As far as I know, the reported heat does not freeze the pc or stop you from playing the game. I think the concern is how long the laptop will last with constant daily gaming at around 90c temperature (with heavy GPU usage games like Crysis).

 

I was merely pointing out that the "excessive" heat is not due to the 2 aforementioned reasons but due to the cooling in the G51.
I haven't bought the M860TU because it has HD heating issues. I am not trying to posture the M860TU as better than the Asus G51. I only used it as an example to show that the G51's gpu heat is due to poor cooling.

I'm hoping the rumored bios update might ramp up the fan speed faster. That in combination with undervolting should help get the temperature down to something a bit more comfortable.

 

I have to say I miss Circuit City. My local Best Buy (Williston, Vermont) doesn't have any competition and so after today I can only assume it doesn't care enough to help out interested customers. I used to work at Circuit City and our manager was a greedy always dry washing his hands, but at least he kept the associates in line and overall allowed for excellent customer service.

I've ready every page of this thread and decided to purchase this unit or the g50 display model if it was still there. I called Best Buy *5* times. Twice I was transferred to the computer department. Neither of those times did I get a person on the phone, and once I was simply hung up on (phone picked up, prompt click then beep beep beep.. you get the idea). Two of the other times I didn't even get an answer from the "sales associate" desk (option 3). Finally I hit 0 for customer service. They took my number and promptly hung up on me without saying bye or anything (hard to explain, but pretty rude). I find it hard to believe that BB is that busy on a Tuesday afternoon.

Finally I say screw it and walk down to the store since my car is currently broken down (store is about a mile away). I get there and stand around waiting for help (I made it known I wanted help) while watching the associates help people who came in AFTER me. I finally get some help and have to admit: the associate actually had a clue. I was finally somewhat impressed. Here comes the good part though.

I wait for a bit in the store thinking things over, I then walk over to staples and back before deciding I want the notebook. I come back and make one request: "can you remove the security lock so I can handle the notebook". I asked the associate who helped me earlier and he told me it was their policy not to remove the security locks from notebooks.

Now I used to be a keyholder in the PC department at Circuit City. I've had management walk with me out to the parking lot so a customer can study the glare on a glossy notebook. Personally I had keys and often removed notebooks from security for customers to handle. This is a large purchase and as such picking up the notebook is a reasonable request. So of course I ask him again and make it clear that I'm interested in a purchase. Perhaps he was trying to save face, but he refused stating that management had the keys.

So I got to customer service and explain my request. The associate tells me that I don't need a manager to remove the security and so I go back to find another associate. He tells me that they seldom remove the security locks and insists that its not important.

Back to customer service I go and the young lady was kind enough to get a manager over in PCs to unlock the laptop. I go back to PCs and wait for about 5 minutes until someone in blue looking very lost comes out with a set of keys. I approach him and he says he is looking the the associate, not the customer. I explain my plight and hes says that they will not unlock the laptop for me because the associate suggested they don't. He states that they "don't have the time" to let someone watch me while I handle the laptop.


Where can I get this notebook for 999-1049 other than Best Buy in the next week? Just on shear principle I will not buy it from my local store. I'm driving down to Boston, MA from Williston, VT: there must be another store that caries these. I'm headed out to South Korea in about 2 weeks max and so I have to get a notebook now. This seemed like a good choice as I'm a moderate gamer and will likely be bored to death in Korea.

As far as the notebook goes, I was really impressed with the keyboard. The wireless concerns me though: it was very slow in google yet a Toshiba about 15 feet away was much better. Any thoughts on the wireless? Thanks for taking the time to read this all.

 

Sorry to say, Best Buy is the only one that will have it for that price. This model is specifically designed/priced for Best Buy.

 

Has anyone posted a comparision between the G51 temps and the G71 temps? I would be curious if the G71 really runs that much cooler, people seem to comment that it "should" given its physical size but usually design and internal layout is more important.

 

Just wondering if anyone here has undervolted their G51 yet.

From what I have seen, the P7350 has a multiplier of 8.5 but RMClock does not recognize half multipliers. Thus, you'd get an underclock of a bit over 100Mhz. Has anyone managed to get RMClock to do half multipliers?

 

I suggest finding another BB. I bought a G71 in a BB in Virginia and the sales guy and manager were very cooperative. Check stocks online for locations you are near. There are plenty of locations and since you are travelling I'm sure you can find a better place.

 

See my PM. I was and am calm, don't presume otherwise.

 

Yes i have undervolted and crystalcpuid does half multipliers. The p7350 has a multi of 7.5, at 2.5ghz i can undervolt to 1.175v

 

What are the temp differences when undervolting on your laptop?

 

at full load 2-3c, it doesnt affect idle temps because the idle voltage is 1.038

 

2-3C improvement over 2.0Ghz full load, or 2.5Ghz full load?

 

sry that was at 2.5

 

That's good for not really doing any physical mods or using a laptop cooler.
Evey little bit helps

 

i think a bios update would work out the gpu issue with the g51. everyone with a g51 has stated that their fan kicks in when temps reach 90c, therefore maybe a new bios update could make the fan kick in earlier? say around 70c. who knows just a thought.

 

that would make it warm up slower, but in the end itll still warm up to whatever the temps are now. i didnt read a lot of the thread, but if the issue is bad paste, a new bios will not change anything.

 

So am I to understand properly then that the G51 does not have space for 2HDDs as the G50 does?

 

Handles 2 HDDs just like the G50.

 

Ah, ok. That's a bit of relief then because I saw the inside and I couldn't see a second slot (like I expected in relation to the G50V).

 

Is there an easy way for a non tweaker type to tell if you got a G51 with "bad paste" i.e a botched application.

 

Not really.
You have to get your hands dirty.

 

Dirty to the point your warranty is at risk, i.e. breaking any stickers etc?

As far as I can tell all the current laptops available still only have a June build date, or at least all the ones I checked.


Helpful Tidbit***If you want to determine build date of your laptop take the SN (Serial Number) the first Digit is the Year it was built the second digit is the month. So all the BB G51 and G71s so far are SN: 96.........or build date June 2009.

 

Hi everyone,

Just got my bestbuy version of the g51 and experiencing shut downs after little more than 1 hour of fallout 3. I decided to open the back and see what people are talking about and noticed something that i think is weird "might not be weird to some of you here"

As you can all see in the picture the the round part of the plastic cover "seems like air intake to me" is totaly solid and no holes for air to come in. Is it normal or somewhat Asus forgot to put the holes for necessary cool air to come in.

 

That is normal

However, was this shutdown you're telling us about related to high GPU temps? that's what I'm afraid of.. D:

 

i do not have any program that measures the temp at the moment but i can verify that the air coming from the side is very hot and also the left side of the keyboard gets pretty hot too. And i am using cooler master notebook cooling thing " what ever they call it "

 

I remember reading this somewhere, but I can't find the source. Sorry if I can't back this up.

But, anyway, the fan on the left draws in hot air from various vents and blows it out. At this time the vent on the bottom wasnt blocked up. Eventually some testers/engineers/whatever noticed that the bottom vent wasn't helping. Because of some weird airflow thing the hot air wasn't being passed through the system fast enough because the intake from the bottom was disrupting the flow.

Hence, closed bottom port. I hear it's very beneficial to remove the cover if you do heavy loads on a cooler (which I do). I'll look into that. But if you're playing games and not using a cooler, keep the cover on.

 

Use CPUID Hardware monitor to measure temps. Great tool.
http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php

 

Time to climb mount Everest

 

heavy fan next to the laptop blowing diretly where the hot air comes out. So far 3 hours playing fallout 3 and not even a single shutdown.

 

what did you change that it doesn't shut down anymore?

 

nothing except i placed a big fan right nest to the laptop where the hot air comes out. still playing fallout 3 and nothing happened. i will try to play without the fan to see if that will cause another shut down

 

So you have a fan blowing air into the hole where the hot air is leaving from

 

not into. just sitting there blowing to it. not like direct;y in it. let me take a picture