the new asus g51

For sure, do you know what is the approximative % increase from DDR2 to DDr3?

lol on a sidenote I just went on the alienware site to customize a X58 desktop...and you can get up to 10k $ for the PC only...with dual GTX295, 24gb DDR3 ram and a 3,86gHz OCd Core i7 CPU....kinda sick

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAgdG7uN6zo

That guy made a pretty good video about it all.

 

Now I'm really confused.

I have a higher overclocked CPU--2.555 GHz--and identical overclocking numbers for the GPU... yet I can't break 9770.

Ugh. I might as well try a reinstall of DOX then. Maybe...

 

DDR3 is going to have to get faster for it to matter. Arrandale/Clarksfield notebooks (Calpella) should run DDR3 1333. That should start to show up over DDR2 levels.

 

Hmm.

I guess the problem was with RivaTuner. With CPU at 2.555 and using NTools to up my core to 580 and memory to 980, I got 10127.
+400 jump just for using a different overclocker. Wow.

 

Well, I just overclocked my GPU up to 576/925/1441 and the CPU up to 2.30Ghz and I have finally broken the 10k barrier to get 10199

 

another question for those G51 owners out there: how good is the trackpad on this laptop? and the "scroll" feature, how responsive? because i dont think I will be bringing my gaming mouse everywhere, esp. at school, the laptop will be flashy enough.

 

What program did you use? Apparently 3DMark doesn't like Dox/RivaTuner combos. It keeps crashing on CPU Test 1

 

nTools from the link xcskiier23 provided and Dox 185.85. If the CPU Test crashes, then it may not be any conflicts but that you are overclocking at unstable speeds.

Go run Orthos or Prime95 for like 15 minutes and see if they detect any problems. When my OCs were unstable, they instantly detected it within 5 minutes of running.

Edit:

Here is what I used

 

Already using it

And it looks like my computer is finally catching up. Your test scored higher than mine, but you're CPU is clocked in at 2.3, which is a tad higher than mine.

Yay, no more laptop envy.

 

YAHOOOO!!

This rocks. Sure, my temperature crested 91 (with a cooler) but this was overclocked to all kinds of hell. I might look at undervolting.

 

Thats pretty nice...... starts cursing his CPU for not being to OC up to 2.50Ghz.....

 

Hmm. Apparently undervolting takes a chunk out of my score. Or it could mean I'm not doing it right.

Using CrystalCPUID I changed the multiplier to 7.0 and undervolted to 1.250.

Still a good score though, right? My temperatures definitely look nicer. Note that this 90C was with all those overclocks with no active cooling pad.

 

I used nVidia System Tools and OC'd to 570/920/1400, then SetFSB CPU to 2.3
Getting 10134 in 3DMark06

Stock cooling

the GPU was underclocked as I understand it, so I assume it's pretty safe OC'ing it, but the CPU probably won't be able to handle bigger OC for long periods of time, so I may keep it at 2.3

By the way, is the GPU card upgradable in the G51VX-RX05?

 

You can overclock the GPU as well, if you want. Temperatures aren't too bad. With balls-out OC on both CPU and GPU I hit 89C.

Speaking of which, I think this undervolt/overclock scheme works a lot better than my previous attempt.

 

I think he means if the GPU can be changed to another one, or a better one in the future (like the 280M occurs to me). User upgradeable.

 

I did OC the GPU, to 570/920/1400 and CPU to 2.3 (10,134)
very stable running through 3dmark and Resident Evil IV benchmark (40fps at very end of benchmark on FULL settings at 1360x768, full aa and af)

I hit 84C on the GPU after both benchmarks

So, is the GPU upgradable in the future?

 

Maybe. I'm not sure what interface the 260m uses. If it's MXM, you should be able to swap it out for an MXM 280m


Also, in other news, The release date was a lie.

 

yea, I checked the specs of this card on nvidia.com and it did say MXM
I really want to upgrade the CPU, but it's just a "want", not a need at this point.. so I may wait

 

Yes, its nice to know that its upgradeable, even if I am not going to do it...

 

CPU is very upgradeable.

Just know that, as of this moment, quads do not work. Any dual core would work just fine.

Well, I don't know if an X9100 would work or not, but definitely a T9900

 

I think they must be losing money on every 386GHz i7 they sell,

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/ddr2-800-vs-ddr3-1333.html

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1782/amd_phenom_ii_ddr2_vs_ddr3_performance/index.html

~Ibrahim~

 

How so? I don't see any dates on that page, am I missing something?

 

I'm 98% sure that you can NOT upgrade the video card, due to it being built-in to the MB. If it is mated to the MB, as was the case with the G50, you can NOT swap it out.

 

With the GTX 260M already running hot, installing a GTX 280M would be pointless. Unless you wanted to fry eggs on your keyboard

 

The reason that you had lower scores before is that the 7350 has a max multiplier of 7.5. If you set the max multiplier to 7 as you did before, you're essentially underclocking your overclock which is really kinda pointless.

 

Hey all. I've been a g51 owner since the 7th (Of July) and I'm positive I now want to sell it. I just like my laptops larger and need something different.

If I return this to Best Buy I have to go through that terrible restocking fee.
Is there much of a market for these guys right now? I'm hoping to just about break even on this so I can put the money towards a bigger laptop.

Any suggestions?

Oh, and on the performance front this thing has been a champion. =)

 

Unfortunately, I doubt that you can break even given as how Best Buy will be selling them for quite a well. Unless you can maybe sell it to someone out of the country and thus without access to a Best Buy, you're going to be out of luck.

 

Damn, I was afraid of that. I was thinking there were probably a few people out of the Country that would love to get a hold of this for close to the original price. Beyond that is there anyway to get around that restocking fee?
Is it possible telling them I'm overall unhappy with the build quality and the speakers is a good enough reason for them to be waiver it?

I believe the website states they will return without fees if there are defects and or problems. Hmm.
I wish I could just be unsatisfied with a product and return it for free!

 

From what I've been hearing from the higher-ups, Best Buy will soon actually be getting rid of the restocking fees...for now though, what happens is going to be dependent on which Best Buy you go to. My Best Buy almost always waives the restocking fee if you are replacing it with another model or something...So if you wanted to swap out the G51 for the G71, you'd only have to pay for the difference.

 

* update - never mind, just setting sound to 0 on bios worked....

Here is some info for people having speaker sound problems with vista

I got a G51 yesturday. Re-installed vista and speaker sound stoped working (only worked with headphones.)

I did those steps to get speaker sound again.
*enable boot up sound (or explosion noise) on bios,
* boot vista (didn't try with 7) sound should work
* shut down vista
* turn off sound on bios again

You should now have sound in vista and no boot up explosion noise...

note. I also disabled the gamming bootup screen but I don't think it makes a difference.

 

When I posted that link--July 17 at at around 9:40 PM local--the ETA was July 17.

I noticed when I didn't touch the multiplier. Well, now I know what each little option means.

I can't seem to get a stable 2.5 overclock at 1.13V, so I'm settling for 1.2V. I'll fiddler around some more.

By the way, you know any good tutorials for undervolting. Something tells me I haven't done it perfectly.

 

Damnit Best Buy increased the price again!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366651&st=g51&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218092150636

 

Wierd they lowered the G71 now. Maybe they just managing inventories.

 

a 17 inch screen, and better processor, more ram, etc, etc, only warrants a $100 increase in price? They need to figure this crap out by tax free weekend otherwise I don't know if I'm going to buy it...This 50 dollar increase in price not only increases the price of the laptop itself, but the price of the protection plan because it send it into a whole new price bracket...So the 50 dollar price increase is actually a 70 dollar increase...and even with my employee discount its still a 50 dollar increase...I can manage that, but I'd rather not buy it and then have it drop back down the next day.

At that point I may as well buy the G71...

 

Maybe if it is anything like my local bestbuy they are out of G 51s and have a boatload of G 71s.

 

When is this?

 

North and South Carolina have tax free weekend for back to school stuff on the weekend of August 7-9, and that includes the G51 at Best Buy, which is why I really want to buy it then. That will save me almost 100 dollars in tax alone...

EDIT: I just realized that The price change back to $999.99 occurred on the 12th, which was last Sunday...essentially the beginning of a new group of sales. Each week a new set of sale prices occurs, so chances are the G51 was included in that sale group because the last sale week ended yesterday...I hope thats not the case, because if so, then its likely that the $1049.99 is going to be the more permanent price...

 

Hello. I have questions.
Can i upgrade in the future dual processor T9550 2.66Ghz to quad q9000?
Asus g51 still have problemo with temp? I heard that gpu can reach 90c. That is very bad? Can i play Crysis or Gta4 ~3 hours?

Thank you. Sorry for my bad english.

 

The temps are expected from what I am hearing, so for now everyone is under the assumption that it isn't dangerous to the hardware. I've definitely never heard of a game cutting out after a few hours, so you definitely should be good to play either game for well over 3 hours.

Upgrading the processor to any dual core is currently compatible, but at the moment upgrading to the quad core does not work. Because the G51VX-A1, which is coming out soon, comes standard with the Q9000, and there are no differences to the processors and motherboard otherwise, chances are the RX05 is just going to need a BIOS update to be compatible. We'll have to wait a few more days or weeks to be sure about that, but my guess is you'll be fine.

 

I have done continuous gaming for 2+ hours with fallout/mercenaries 2 and never had any glitching or crashing

 

Well, the Hardware forum has this guide but it is mainly for RMClock which doesn't support half multipliers.

Either CPUGenie (which you have to pay for) or Crystal CPUID (free) will work for half multipliers. I personally used the Crystal CPUID and it has worked wonders. It isn't too hard to figure out but if you have any specific issues like making it start at boot or something like that feel free to ask.

 

@TevashSzat

Yes man can you please explain me how to make this thing run at start up, I haven't been able to make this thing work, I am using min, medium and max at 1.113 with 6, 6.5 and 7.5 with no problems, but I always need to start it manually.
Thank You

 

Well in WinXp at least you can add it to the Startup folder. There should be a Vista equivalent.

 

Run task scheduler which is in the control panel, administrative tasks (at least I think)

Do create a task on the right.

Under triggers, do begin the task at log on, I personally delay it for 30 secs.

Under actions, browse for the CPUID .exe and under arguments, put in "/CQ /HIDE"

And then you're set to go

 

Hey im going to college in a few weeks and am trying to get the G51 from BB for "casual gaming" and normal college computing but my parents wont let me get a laptop that only lasts 2ish hours unplugged.

Ive looked everywhere for a 9 or 12 cell battery to replace the 6 cell in the G51 but i cant find one. Does anyone know if or where they are available? and if not if there is another laptop on par with the G51 that I should look at?

Thanks for any help

 

Casual gaming? The 260m the G51 packs is for heavy gaming. But if you want to casually play some hardcore games, this is good for you.

As for battery, 9- or 12-cell won't give you much more unless you're in a power saving mode. And does a 12-cell even fit?

 

JW I'm about to buy this laptop and what temps are you getting with that overclocking? Its same clocks as an actual gtx 260m.

 

Overclock = more heat.
Undervolt = less heat.

So, in general, it balances out. And, if you undervolt to a larger degree than you overclock, it will actually be cooler. I get nice temperatures while overclocking.

Now if only we could undervolt the GPU...

 

But, at the same time, undervolting can diminish overclocking potential, so it's definitely a delicate balance. I'm hoping that my next laptop (whether it's the G51 or the NP8662) can actually overvolt; I'd like to break 3GHz.

GPU undervolting is possible, but it requires a BIOS flash (with an edited BIOS, of course).

~Ibrahim~