the new asus g51

Lower stable clocks, sure. Undervolting to 1.200 and overclocking to 2.5 allowed me to run 3DMark06 flawlessly. I haven't tried a truly stressful program like Orthos, though.

oh hell no

 

hey my brother is trying to upgrade his G51 to a bluray drive.
can anyone please tell me if the drive in the G51 is
SATA or IDE format?

 

Thank you very much TevashSzat, it worked great.

 

Hi guys i have some questions about the G51,

First question is if the keyboard on the G51 is the same size as the G71? From the pictures and key layouts they seem to be the same, but is it really so? Adittionaly is the keyboard illuminated or not?

Second question is about the processor in the Gentech and xoticPC offered lappies does the Q9000 overclock? If no would this maybe change with bios upgrades as the MSI GT729 should feature Q9000 which should be overclocable (or so say frosties http://www.frostycomputers.com/MSI_GT725_gaming_notebook_Radeon_4850_HD_P8600_p/gt729.htm). MSI and ASUS both offer overclocking on their motherboards, so any thoughts on this ...

Also can, You guys - the owners, post the total system weight with two hdds installed? Is it really lighter than the clevo TU860?

I saw a lot of overclocks done to the BB processors, how well do they perform in games, do you still(???) experience slowdowns in games in most intensive parts?

Also is there any news about when G51 is comming to newegg?

 

Here is my review of the G51, mAvis. You will find answers to most of your questions on there.

The Q9000 should in theory be able to OC, but that model of the G51 is not out yet and we don't know for sure.

Total system weight? Not exactly sure but probably under 8 lbs with another HDD.

OC to the processors are simple and easy to do, with great results in games and benchmarking. I do not experience any "CPU Lagging" with mine OC'd to 2.5 ghz.

I do not know when they will release the G1 at newegg.

 

I have both the G51 and G71 BB models and while I have not measured them (yet) it did cross my mind (right after unboxing both) to see if the keyboards could be swapped as they look to be exactly the same dimensions when put next to each other. After a few weeks I don't really feel the backlighted keyboard is all that anymore so I have not persued it, however if anyone wants me to take a tape to them and measure for exactness let me know.

Yes the G51Vx BB model has a backlighted keyboard.

 

If you want any decent extension of battery life you're going to have to get an external battery. The G51 consumes about 30Wh, so it would be worthwhile to get an external battery with 130Wh that will last over 4 hours (for a total of 5-6 hours with the original battery). These cost about $200+ (which is about equivalent to the cost of a replacement 9-cell that will only give you ~2 hours). You also have to pay attention to which adapter the G51 uses and make sure you match up the voltage/amperes.

If you carry your laptop around in a case anyway then you should never really notice the external battery. They are only about 1 lb, tops.

Power Specs for G51:
6 cells: 4800 mAh, Lithium-Ion
Output: 19 V DC, 6.32 A, 120W
Input: 100~240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal

 

Yep, you have to choose whether you want to undervolt more or overclock more. I personally chose overclocking so I overclocked to a stable clock and then undervolted from there.

As regarding GPU undervolting, I'm pretty sure that I saw a voltage option within nTools somewhere. I didn't touch with it, but it might be able to undervolt without doing a BIOS flash.

Oh and also, nTools is such an awesome program. With the triggers in it, you can really make alot of things automated without having to click on various shortcuts. I can make my GPU start off at stock clocks upon boot, overclock when I start playing an intensive game, and then underclock back to stock once I exit. If it starts running too hot, I can have it underclock during the game.

CPUwise I'm getting about 65-67C max.

GPUwise, I have seen a max of 91C after like 6-7 hours of Fallout 3 on Ultra-High. Normally its just 89C but saw 90C or 91C once or twice there.

 

TBH, most stress-testing programs are usually pushing the limit to what you're going to do. How many programs will run a CPU at 100%, both cores for hours on end? I've never seen any game do that nor any professional program. But running them (and passing) definitely gives you peace of mind.

lol, it actually isn't terribly hard. You just download the BIOS with GPU-Z, open NiBiTor, change a value, and flash the new one. There are some programs, if you want to try:
GPU Voltage Tuner

Not sure if nTool's has this capability. I think it can tweak CPU/RAM voltage, but I don't think it can do GPU voltage.

~Ibrahim~

 

Most def. It's the first GPU overclocking program that instantly works. I used RivaTuner with the nominally compatible 185.68, and it doesn't perform nearly as well.

And the programmer rocks. I've just begun to experiment with it. I'll set the card to standard clocks--550/1375/950--for my more pedestrian games, and to some degree of overclock for the more intense ones. And then if it gets to hot, time to downclock. And then downclock to the underclocked settings when I'm not gaming.

By the way, Tev, I noticed you're setting your memory "overclock" to 925. I'm pretty sure you coule eke a little more performance out if you at least boost it to the supposed standard of 950.

True. Most games--what I use to tax the CPU at any rate--use more GPU than CPU. Still, peace of mind is always nice.

My mentality is more "you first!" I'm too timid and newb/n00b to try that. Then again, I popped this sucker open and tried to cram a QX9300 into it, so I'm just an odd sort of fellow.

I've been wanting to use that in a sentence.

As far as I can tell, nTool only affects GPU clocks.

 

@Forge

Well, I haven't really tested my max overclock on the GPU yet simply because I don't want to watch 3DMark06 for a couple hours looking for artifacts.

Regarding flashing the vBIOS, I have created a thread about it but essentially, nibitor can't read the G51 vBIOS so we can either wait till it gets updated and can or we get the BIOS off of another laptop using the GTX 260M which would most likely be the Alienware M17x, Sager NP8662, or the G71, which seems to have a slightly different BIOS.

 

Well, you don't have to. I think you mentioned somewhere that you played a game for five hours. You can just set your clocks to that, and see if you notice anything funky during that time. If you do, you know to set something lower.

By the way, I'm toying around with the automated actions. Do you know how to delete the rules? I think I messed up a few of them and I don't want them cluttering.

 

Click on them and press the delete button

 

Hehe, I'd up all up on this laptop but I don't have it. I'm waiting on some cheap, good Newegg versions or I might jump ship to the Sager NP8662.

~Ibrahim~

 

Well, when my GPU is set to 565/1410/975 I get minor artifacts in Crysis Warhead. It plays so smoothly (Native resolution, all high except for very high textures, no AA) and the errors are so easily missed that, well...

Or are the presence of artifacts an indication of danger?

 

Hey guys,

I bought this laptop on 7/7/09 (tomorrow the 14 day return policy will be on its last day) and I have had 2 BSOD's so far. One was on 9/7/09, a minor thing while playing Team Fortress 2, a crash with the DRIVER_IRQ_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL with the faulty driver being netw5v64.sys. 10 minutes ago I was playing Zombie Master (a modification for HL2, which is part of the same engine as TF2) and I had another BSOD with the same exact error. The thing is that I get these errors randomly, after long online gaming stretches, and just 2 over a lot of heavy gaming usage.

I'm just wondering if the symptoms seem to be the cause of faulty drivers, or if I should head back to Best Buy and return it for a new one due to the problems I'm having. Any comments on that, since I have a day to go (and I get back from work at 5, so I'm pretty much needing to have a final decision by then).

P.S: I tried reproducing the error, and I couldn't get it done anyway, until today it just randomly happened again. I did MemTest, FurMark testing, Orthos testing and everything is OK. It comes down to my WiFi Card or screwed drivers. Any input? I really don't want to be stuck with a bad from manufacturing laptop (AKA a 1k dollars paper weight).

 

So does anyone know why the case has a pseudo intake fan at the bottom? Would there be any way to make it functional to increase airflow, or would that actually disrupt the current flow?

If that vent was opened up, that in combination with a cooler fan seems like it would be extremely effective in cooling the laptop.

What do you guys think?

 

Artifact are usually indicative of an unstable overclock (if you overclock that is). Otherwise, faulty drivers or lack of voltage is the culprit. I would only worry if artifacts showed up under stock speeds AND you have the latest stable drivers.

That thing might be there just for looks. If you look inside, there are metal spacers which tells me that Asus made the decision to make that area more "friendly" for the centrifugal exhaust fan there so that it would not be starved of air to move. That's my guess. I wish it was a filter myself so that there would be more fresh air being moved through.

 

From hearsay--readsay?--the vent was originally supposed to be that, an intake vent. After testing the airflow the engineers noticed that the intake from the vent in question was disrupting the airflow from the other intake vents, causing hot air to move slowly from other components and all types of nasty stuff. So they covered it.

I also hear that it makes a difference if you use a cooler with the large intake unblocked.

I'm considering doing that, because the only time I need heavy cooling--gaming--is when I make sure to pack and bring my cooler.

 

That is an interesting bit of information.

In that case, I don't think I'd open that hole up. Sometimes, I just have to use my notebook without a cooler you know?

Speaking of which, I can't wait till my Zalman cooler gets delivered tomorrow.

 

Well, cooling only ever becomes tricky when you're doing intense graphics work, like gaming. If you're surfing teh intrawebs with the vent opened, I doubt there will be a problem.

I'll see if I get the balls big enough to attempt the mod.

 

Again, I'm torn between the RX05 and the A1...

The only real difference to me in the long-run is the screen resolution. Everything else can be easily upgraded to match.

I look at the screen when I'm working, and the resolution seems to be more than enough. I try an imagine a full 1080p screen on the 15.6 inch screen, and it almost seems like overkill. Is it really worth it for me to spend the extra 700 up front to get a full 1080p resolution screen on a 15.6 inch, especially when it would decrease performance to keep the resolution that high? Especially since I can always get an external monitor which I could get with a 23 inch screen.

I imagine for gaming, I would rather cut down on the resolution a little and have better graphics within the game as far as shading, lighting, textures, draw distance, etc goes...



I hate waiting for tax free weekend to pick this laptop up, I keep checking up on it every day, and every day I keep changing my mind on what I want to do...haha

 

Here's how I see it.

A computer screen looks the sharpest at native resolution. For example 1366x768 gives me a very clear, defined screen while something like 1280x720 gives me some blurriness.

The same applies to games. Considering the graphics card can handle it, play a relatively high-end game at lower-than-native resolution and native resolution.

And now remember that a higher resolution means more work for the computer. If you try native it'll work your GPU hard and hot, and you might suffer some lower frames.

I'm perfectly happy with my "lower resolution" screen. My G50vt had a much higher native resolution which annoyed me with those tiny icons. Higher resolution is nicer when watching movies, but you have that external for that.

Speaking of which, which spend more money on the screen when you already have one?

 

Quick question are you guys who "oc'd" your gpu to an actual gtx 260m experiencing higher temps? I'm gonna need some major help on undervolting and overclocking and all that. I just bought the g51 for 950 brand new.

 

I've noticed slightly higher temperatures. With a cooler on and at standard clocks I hit 82C after forty-five or so minutes of Crysis Warhead.

I'm probably going to test it again because the numbers look so off.

By the way I also undervolted the CPU to 1.150 volts and overclocked to 2.42 GHz

 

Anyone has any advice for my situation on last page? Anyone had any BSOD's due to wireless card after an update or in general?

 

Hey guys, check out my Asus G51 Optimization Guide for any questions regarding overclocking or undervolting.

 

Thank you sir, that's just awesome to the max.

 

Hello everyone .. i am looking to buy ASUS G51Vx-A1 but i few different stores have them with different screan size and picture on the back ...

White picture and screan is 15.4 size
http://store.redbarncomputers.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=884840455165&gclid=CN-xsZKN55sCFQRM5QodKH0q6w

Black with some blue lighting (kind of) and 15.6 screan size
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G51Vx-A1

can someone let me know if one of them a typo and which one is the actuall A1? i dont think they would have 2 exact same models but different screan sizes ...

Thanks in advance

 

They both should be the reseller version of the G51.

The first link probably had a typo with the 15.4" while the second link has the wrong picture (I think)

 

On the redbarn site, the picture is actually of the RXo5 model (Best Buy). I'd trust GenTech for the 'real' size and specs of the A1

 

Thanks all for quick response ... is GenTech a good source to buy laptop?

 

I believe Gen-Tech PC's to be a good source. They have been around for a while, but I have never bought anything from them.

 

I've heard nothing but things about the on this forum. I talked to ken lee from GenTech when I was looking into laptops and he helped tremendously. I have a pre order into GenTech for the A1 . . . the anticipation is killing me

 

well I couldnt justify the 1080P screen and quad so I just got a RX05. I look forward to seeing how the A1 does!!!

 

Guys,

Do you really have *no* idea why I might be getting the BSOD with the culprit being netw5v64.sys? This is kinda urgent. Some help ideas would be ok.

And yes -- I ran MemTest, Orthos, FurMark and all and they all came out ok. It's down to my Network Card or my Drivers. I really need ideas, since BB's warranty ends today.

 

Thanks for advice ... just ordered one for myself from GenTech...

 

did ken say when he was expecting to receive the laptops from Asus?

 

The actual notebook is black for online reseller version.

 

shucks

 

shouldn't you be able to swap out the shell though? I mean the A1 and rx05 are basically the same so isn't it theoretically possible to take off the black lightning case of the A1 and install the white shell from an RX05?

 

Yes you can.

 

he said hopefully by end of the week ...

 

Hmmm....you have the G51? You should have a year of warranty with it.

Anyways, I did a quick google search and the culprit appears to be the drivers. I'd suggest searching around a bit online.

 

Hey everyone,

So I'm thinking of purchasing this laptop sometime soon, but I have been a little concerned upon hearing some people mention overheating. How grave is this issue? Should it stop me from buying it? Can it be fixed? I'm planning on playing many recent games on the machine, and so I don't want to buy something that will overheat and breakdown (I've had a bad experience with an old gaming laptop).

Thanks for the help.

 

Yes. It's the G51-RX05 (Best Buy model). I searched online and it's the wireless videocard adapter. Do you think though it might be something hardware related? I mean, I did Windows Updates and I don't know if anything might have broken it, so I don't know if to return it (as no one has complained about BSOD's yet).

Above poster: My CPU doesn't go above 53 C and GPU doesn't go above 84 C during GTA IV (quite intensive game) so you're good to get one.

P.S: The G51 BSOD'd the day after I bought it, and it went 10 days OK, and it BSOD'd again yesterday. It all happens during Source games too. I updated right out of the box.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/search.php?searchid=3943759

 

I think your best option would be to go to Best Buy and either get them to fix it or demand that they give you a different laptop.

 

I agree with TevashSzat, go to your local BB and demand that they fix/replace your laptop. The only BSOD you should be getting are from upping your slider too much in setFSB not that i have experienced that.....

 

Hi,long time lurker.I decided to ask some questions myself as I saw an interesting suggestion on another thread.I've zeroed in on the G51(mainly because of the looks,form factor,GTX 260M and backlit keyboard.I myself prefer ATI cards but the K-series look like a fairy tale at the moment,so...).As of now,I hesitate between the BB version and the A1.Here are my pros and cons for each one(personal opinion given the information I have as of now):

*BB pros:
-The price
-The White finish
-Available RIGHT NOW
-Screen native resolution is just right for the form factor and gaming performance(some desktop cards are struggling at 1920*1080/1200 in certain games,I shudder to think about what a mere lappie would produce...)

*BB cons:
-Weak proc that U can't ask them to upgrade unlike retail version
-Underclocked GPU(but,is it the same for all G51s?Is the retail version different on this point?)
-Stripping is pushed way too far(I read somewhere that they remove the bag and the EEE sticks.Is that true?)
-No possibility to customize even one bit(320GB drive is annoying,hope there was at least the option for 500GB.The option to put 2*500GB in RAID 0/1 is quite attractive on the retail version)
-ized warranty which doesn't help people like me living outside the US

*A1 pros:
-Highly customizable(at least with online retailers),U can order an extra battery right away
-All the extras are there,including ASUS' original warranty
-ASUS may have fixed cooling issues(mere speculation,I know)

*A1 cons:
-The price
-Not out yet,so leaving some crucial questions unanswered(Cooling?GPU speed?)
-Black finish,too common and ordinary(is it possible to ask the guys at Gentech or Xotic to swap it with the white shell?)
-Screen resolution is overkill for this form factor,which bumps the price up for nothing IMHO
-Quad-core used is no gem

Given all this information,I'm leaning toward the A1 mainly because of the possibility of an additional 9-cell battery.

Now,excuse me for the long preamble(specially for a 1st post),but here is my question:is the G51 compatible with any external battery,like the ones APC used to sell?Understand that right now I live in India,and here,specially in my city,power cuts are a complete nightmare.I saw on another thread that it would be better to invest in an external battery for the same price I would put in an additional 9-cell,and it would last longer.The problem is,last laptop I owned(HP Pavilion dv9000)wasn't compatible AT ALL with APC's model(none of the DC plugs could fit in).So,I want to know if there's one for the G51,and if yes,which model and where to obtain it.

If there is,I'll forego the additional 9-cell and might go for the BB version(I really prefer that white finish and the price is oh so attractive compared to the A1).But all in all,it'll depend on what people say about their experience with the a1 once it's out.It'll be just another piece of information to assist me in my choice.Thanks in advance for helping me.Now I'm off to watch the eclipse .