[NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

Even a G73 will outrun the M1730, that system is quite old. The Alienware's are amongst the fastest notebooks on the market, so I'd say yes

 

Oh my god, I can't wait anymore. xD

 

Late October/November. That means even when it starts, people will only receive it by ~November and December, earliest should be the United States.

None of us can wait anymore. It better be a better GPU than 5730...

Dell was quick in refreshing the i5-460M though (but they haven't made 560/580 available just yet).

 

Yeah, That's why I am strongly leaning toward waiting for these to have SB processors. Of course back that back to the same discussion earlier in this thread how soon will DELL put SB in these.

My feeling is there is going to be a vendor who is going to have SB in their notebook (s) quickly by late January.

 

Fellas it looks like they're gonna put GT445M in the new Studio/XPS.
Likely because it is around the same range as Radeon 5830, and it makes sense since it is at least better than 5730. Apparently it will support GDDR5.

However, the TDP is not certain. I think 5730 has 26W, 5830 has 24W, and this article compares GT445M to 5830 but supposes that its got 40W. I really hope it doesn't overheat.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 445M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

The GT460M is far too high end/pricey. And they can't put anything worse than a 5730... if they do, it'll be a ty GT435M, a step down from the 445/5830 range, and even lower/on par with than 5730.

Oh no... then it looks like 435 is a likely, albeit disappointing candidate.

 

gt 445m seems doable, and it looks like it would be a pretty good boost over the 5730 i think.

 

AMD/ATI doesn't measure TDP the same way nvidia does, so direct comparison is obsolete.

 

I'm only eager to know the heat mgmt and throttling issue being solved rather than the GPU

 

I anxiously want to get rid of my XPS16. Highly looking forward to the redesign.

 

Of course. The hopefully new structural and functional design, the new looks, and the new GPU are just extras. It can be assumed that it would have 1600x900 or 1920x1080. Apparently only 2 USB ports, but at least one should be USB 3.0. Hope the rumours are wrong.

If there aren't these changes, then the new one would just be an expensive version of the lousy old one.

 

GT 445M?
no way! it may be OK for XPS 15 but I'm expecting nothing less than GT 460M for XPS 17. but even in that case I'll be a bit disappointed because I want to see GT 470M in my 'slim and sleek machine'.
GT 480M is an overkill for me and, besides, no laptop can be slim with it inside.

 

Dell XPS makers could really learn a thing or two about the ventilation design.

Putting the screen above would be a good start. Or try this for heat vent positioning.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/typo3temp/pics/dfebb03ed3.jpg

 

Yep. While the clamshell design looks pretty it just doesn't make sense when the CPU/GPU tend to be towards the rear of the laptop. Heating is a huge issue and I'm tired of dust being blown onto my screen.

• Mostly aluminum design
• Good ventilation
• No more glossy palmrest
• Remove the plastic that's in front of the screen (matte LCD anyone?)
• Decent GPU

...and I'll be happy.

 

Yes, yes, and yes.

 

Dell, say something!
don't meet our expectations, disappoint us, make us angry - just say something, anything official about these laptops, please!

 

Dell Studio XPS 15 (501-6595) prijzen | Core | Tweakers.net Pricewatch
Dell Studio XPS 17 (701-6601) prijzen | Core | Tweakers.net Pricewatch

 

I'll be damned if all they were able to pull off for XPS 15 is some crappy GT425M

 

XPS 15 with Core i5 and DDR2? I somehow doubt that.

 

They sure look much nicer, but if those specs are accurate... meh, they can keep it. No better than the regular Studio specs.

 

It's XPS 15 & 17 not Studio

 

It's all rumor, the other linked site gave specs along with the name Studio XPS, all you've provided is a possible name . We won't know for sure either way until after it's finally released.

 

Are the 15 & 17 models a totally revamp of the Studio XPS line-up or just simple improvements (IE: specs)?

 

There are plenty of flaws with that info.

DDR2, no USB 3.0, weight of 15 = weight of 17, etc.

Why are you surprised i5-460 is the base config for XPS 15? Typical of Dell - make the processor way overpriced.

GT425, damn, they could've at least had GT445 - for XPS 15.

 

Looks more like a Studio <strike>XPS</strike> then a <strike>Studio</strike> XPS.

 

The price comparison site shows XPS Studio but all shop sites show well
Reference XPS 15 and XPS 17

I can confirm to you that the reference internally at Dell France is XPS and not Studio But wait the official release

Only photos of Studio 15 and Studio 17, not the design of the XPS 15 and 17

Only pre-referral, do not take into account the specification other than the CPU, graphics card, screen

 

That is the main problem: that we take into account said GPU (GT425M).

I am not convinced that this GPU is enough to replace HD 5730. This is unfortunately a downgrade. I hope they offer the GT445M (even though this is only a slight upgrade from the ATI card).

 

Hope those aren't the specs

DDR2 - are you kidding me?


I am expecting these to be a high performance notebooks and that Studio XPS 17 to be on the level of the HP ENVY 17.

should have 2 USB 3.0 ports at this point in time

I see sony has put 2 USB 3.0 ports in the Holiday update for the vaio series F I believe

 

It's not even worth commenting the DDR2 thing, as all i3/i5/i7 use DDR3 so obviously the info is wrong. The rest doesn't really deserve more attention as it'll be heavily customizable and the source seems unreliable, but I'm worried about the 425M as I fear it might be exact. Dell chose nvidia GPUs, this point is clear, so imo they have 2 options : first (if these are gamer friendly) 445M (maybe 460M) in XPS 15, 460M in XPS 17, there's no such thing as a GTX 470M atm and when it's out it'll suck too much power.

Other only option if they're just aiming at average multimedia specifications is 425M (which is hard to understand because it's crap and a downgrade from ATI 5650/5730, yet that's what Asus did recently) & 445M. And if they do, either they'd better use ATI's new 6000M as soon as it's out for decent performance, or they can count me out of potential buyers.

 

The real question is which competitor they want to shoot at?

If Sony, the 425M seems likely (The Sony F has it too.)
If HP, they will need something much more beefy.

 

Forget trying to compete with others, why make a product inferior to its predecessor? Makes no sense.

I don't think I want a 17 inch laptop, damn it. 15 is perfect. But 445 is the least they could do for XPS 15. Why don't they call it Studio 15xx...

 

Well ask Asus. They had ATI 5730M in N71 for a while. Comes N73 and they use a GT425, which doesn't stand comparison but go figure. Maybe the short supply for Ati mobile GPU has just grown on the manufacturers' nerves and that's why they switched to nvidia even if they offer inferior chips.

 

I know. Even the 435 would be a step down, the 425 is just insulting. The 445 would be perfect for a 15 inch laptop. I was almost thinking about trading in / selling my 1645 to get one of the new 15s when they come out, but if this site is accurate, they can forget it.

 

exacly, but i think an GT460 is highly unlikely, thay would make the alienware's obsolete. not to mention the battery life will drop in half.

ik was hoping for the 445, and the xps 17... i dont really care, we still have the studio 17.

also, optimus technology, please!

 

If it's not got switchable graphics upon release then it MUST have it when they update it to sandy bridge. Otherwise it's just a massive waste of technology.

 

when I'm buying 17'' laptop I'm buying it because I want advanced GPU in it. I'm sacrificing mobility for performance. so, I deserve to get GT 470M in XPS 17. and I do not want my laptop to look like pregnant at the same time (like look-alike barebones from sager, clevo, maingear, deviltech, and so on). HP has proved that laptop can be slim with advanced GPU in it - look at HP envy 17 with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850. so, why can't Dell do the same?

 

Because

A/ GTX 470M would have to be released first. For now it's theoretical specs have been disclosed and that's about all
B/ It sucks more power than a GTX 460M, which is about between 5850 & 5870 for power & heat, so it would require a solid cooling & possibly a bulky case. Yes, Envy 17 is slim and has a 5850 but seems to run quite hot.

 

I think 445 for the 15 and 460 for the 17 would be reasonable. Anything higher would be Alienware, and anything lower should just be a regular Studio.

 

I agree. 445 for 15' and 460 for 17', sounds about right, and would be nice. Now we gotta wait and see what those Dell people actually decide to do.

 

OK, 460 for 17', + i5-580M or i7-640M (I hate current overpriced quad cores and I can't wait for sandy bridge).

 

...but the 425 is about the same as the 5730 isn't it?

 

no, it isn't. it's worse -
Comparison of Laptop Graphics Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Not even close. The 425 is even slower than the 5650/4670. The 435 comes very close to the 5730, and the 445 should be a decent amount faster. For some reason, there's a very big gap between the 435 and 445. With a decent overclock (800/1050 or higher) the 5730 should be very close to the speed of a 445 (based on my OCd 3DMark06 and Vantage scores compared to the benchmark results on notebookcheck.net), though admittedly, notebookcheck isn't know for their accuracy. We'll have to wait for some 445s to be seen in the wild.

 

Ah... ok. I've been red team all my life, never even considered a green team solution. Well, except for what I've read about the 460 and 480. Every other nvidia card is shrouded in mystery to me.

//

 

I tend to alternate back and forth between the two. I'll buy whatever is best at the time. I usually do the same for CPUs as well, but AMD hasn't came out with anything worth using (outside of the low-end / budget section) for over 4 years...

 

The Dell Europe link from the XPS specs site does not link to XPS 15 or 17 Zzz

CMON Dell give us some news! Will XPS 15 have GT445 or not? Will there be a laptop with Radeon 6xxx? Or will you disappoint 99.999% of people who were ready to buy the XPS 15 - and will never consider it again?

 

that is very true. I hate to say it but whenever I do laptop shopping, I tend to ignore the ones that have "AMD" processor label on the palmrest and I didnt even look at the processor specs. The only thing AMD is good at is probably just ATI video cards.

 

Some more sites with Studio XPS 15/17 rumors:

Dell Studio XPS 15 & Studio XPS 17 Laptops: Specs & Review | B4tea.com
Dell Studio XPS 15, XPS 17 rumored to be coming this fall -- Engadget
Dell to soon bring out Studio XPS 15 and 17? | Electronista

They all say the same thing though, current-gen i7 processors, unspecified Nvidia GPU, JBL speakers.

They all cite France as the source of the rumors, and one speculates that they will be released in Europe before USA/Canada.

Still nothing concrete though... Hopefully we'll know soon.

 

I've just checked - GT 445M is only slightly worse than HD 5850. so, they may well put it in XPS 17 to make this laptop on par with Envy 17 - btw, HP will soon upgrade this model to 3D though the graphics card will be the same - HD 5850. in this case XPS 17 should be at least as thin as Envy 17 3D to make it viable alternative. otherwise, if XPS 17 is thicker, Dell should put GT 460M in it or they're losing the game, IMHO.

 

Thickness means nothing. The Envy 17 is crazy uncomfortable to use, and if that's the price of thinness then I hope the XPS 17 isn't as thin. These are luxury laptops. I want to lounge with them.

 

What the hell is going on with Dell