ATi HD 5730 now available for Studio XPS 16

Dell UK now has Radeon 565v instead of the 4670. It's the same card only renamed. If this is what dell takes for an "upgrade" then I will soon "upgrade" to HP

 

You sure its the same card mate ?
I was just about to hit the button , but now ill wait

 

4670 = 565v
source: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 500V Series Gadget Trends

 

Cheers, as per usual UK gets shafted, spec wise and price wise

 

I just spoke to a Dell Rep and after his usual "we don't have any information on this" bullsh*t, he gave away that the HD5730 was indeed coming, but he couldn't or wouldn't say when.

If we compare what happend to Australia and other countries, we could predict that the HD5730 will be available next week or within 2 weeks. Since those sites offered the HD5650 for +- one week and then changed it to the HD5730.

Let's just hope i'm correct!

 

Well I tried uploading it from my phone (took the video on the phone) but it took too long so Im doing it now through my computer. Should be up hopefully soon.

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Sorry you cannot read the FPS or the temps. Im not a phot/camera guy and I was using my cell phone.

Yeah same card.

ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 560v Series GPU Specifications

* 514 million transistors on 55nm fabrication process
* Unified Superscalar Shader Architecture
* Microsoft® DirectX® 10.1 support
* OpenGL 3.2 support
* GDDR3/DDR3/DDR2 memory interface (depending on model)
* PCI Express 2.0 x16 bus interface
* 320 stream processing units
* 24x custom filter anti-aliasing (CFAA) and high performance anisotropic filtering
* Dual mode ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU support for highly scalable performance
* Dynamic geometry acceleration
* ATI Avivo™ HD video and display technology1
o Unified Video Decoder 2 (UVD 2) for Blu-ray™ and HD Video
o DVD Upscaling
o Dynamic Contrast
o Built-in HDMI with 7.1 surround sound support
o DisplayPort™ with audio

Directly from the AMD/ATI site. The 565v is still using 55nm chips. Sorry UK.

It is quite unfortunate for you guys, but I say wait it out as the 5730 in a SXPS 16 is WELL worth it. I love my rig (not trying to rub it in) and would wait if I was in your shoes knowing how much I love this rig. I hope they come to their sense and start rolling them out for you guys soon.

 

I still don't see the purpose of the video of such a low resource game. It may report "high GPU utilization" but there's SO many parts of the card unused in a low resource game.

For example, I can play Quake Live (not that demanding) for hours and the (4670) GPU, with maximum details, won't get hotter than 80C. However, if I play Left 4 Dead (moderately/highly demanding) for 30 minutes the GPU will be 90C+ (throttles maybe once every 5 times I play, but only after playing for 30+ minutes).

 

Wow actually updated their graphics engine when wrath came out. Its alot more demanding then it was before. For instance my dell vostro used to max the game at 1920x1200 and get 60fps (vsync pegged) the day 3.0 came out with the same settings my FPS was hovering at 10 or less until I took shadows off. Then i was able to get 20-40 with spikes up to 60. This literally happened within a 24 hour period. One day I was maxing FPS with vsync and the next I was at half. I will agree its not the most demanding game, but playing while multitasking should create more heat then if I were just playing a more demanding game.

 

shipment was scanned into calgary this afternoon so i should be good to go for tomorrow afternoon :d

 

Newman crashed!

 

Damn. Just as well I checked here before pulling the trigger.

 

the whole 565v naming is a bit of a nasty trick cos they had it as the 4670 until very recently. it had me fooled thinking it was a 5650 and even when i asked the dell rep he said it was a 5650 and he handnt heard a thing about the 5730

 

u can always trust dell to try and screw us.

must be part of their mission statement

 

Yes.

/whine on

Dell has a lot of reps who keep telling me bullsh*t and know nothing at all. I probably asked about 10 different reps about the new HD5730. Most of them know nothing at all and are to lazy to call Marketing department, others say it should come "soon", while others say it will probably take a couple of months untill it's here.

I'd like a final answer which confirms the actual release and date for the new GPU. I don't want any name tricks like they just did with the "565v". All of this is starting to annoy me badly. 2 months I have been working on my 10 inch netbook while waiting for the new GPU.

Come on Dell, my patience is running out, I'm tired of waiting...

/whine off

 

I wonder how long it will take to get a new SXPS16 refresh with USB3.0

I am tempted just to buy a vostro and hold out for another couple of months

 

unlucky at leastI still have my sony notebook and my desktop for the time being although im waiting for the Sony to die so i can return it and get money back as im still in warranty and dont want another replacement 8400m gt so im fine waiting for now.

 

Thanks to this great forum I stopped making the mistake of buying the XPS Studio 16 just yet. I asked to speak to one of their sales/support staff who although initially avoiding the question eventually confirmed that the 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 565v is actually an HD 4670.

" 13:48:52 Prathap_Varanasi
It is hd 4670"


I also asked to be notified of when the UK versions will have the same new 5730 as the US. Let's see how long they take to respond.

 

Just dont hold your breath

I dont understand why Dell can't just give everyone the same options! they are all assembled in China anyway, its not like they are making them in different countries for different markets anymore

 

Actually @ninja2000 they're all assembled in different Dell service regions. For example, Dell India have their own factory, which also serves neighbouring countries. China probably serves Asia Pacific. And the US has multiple Dell factories as far as I know.

Dell India now has the 5730 available - I have one on order.

 

what are the issue or cases that DELL will replace a motherboard?? mine is freezing. already tried doing a clean reformat/ resintallation, but still it freezes?

 

I'm also interested in getting a Dell Studio XPS 16, but I too have decided to hold off since reading this thread. I contacted Dell via the internet chat and queried when the 5730 will be available. I was told they didn't have a specific date, but it could be within the next 2-3 weeks. Make that a month, then.

What irritates me is that Dell's marketing team seem to switch and change the prices and configuration options on the website almost on a daily basis. For example, I logged on today and their 'top spec' XPS 16 now has an i7-820QM processor - with no option to downgrade - for £1,149. However, yesterday if I wanted that configuration, it would have cost me good enough £1,400. I'm tempted to just go for it, but knowing my luck in a couple of days they'll have the 5730 'in stock'.

 

I'm waiting too. Spoke with US chat agent who told me that the UK chat agents would be able to advise, but as per my last post its clear that they have no idea. On the other hand buying a US spec machine is significantly cheaper than a UK sourced machine. I might run the numbers again to check as it might be worthwhile buying from the US, and shipping to here in the UK (have USA based friends and colleagues). The warranty covers you worldwide so that is not a concern.

What do you think? Is it worth it? Does the £ and € signs matter that much?

 

To all UK would be buyers of the Studio XPS 16.

Might I suggest employing the chat mechanism to ask DELL for a US version of the laptop and thus getting the 5370 ATI card rather than the older and potentially prone to throttling (according to various sources, blogs, forums on the net) 4670?

I wonder if this will speed up the UK release of this SKU from Dell UK.

Jules

 

I ran the figures 2 days ago and here are the approx values I found on a SXPS16 820QM,Windows 7 pro, full WLED, 500gb HDD.... 3yrs support:-


1) UK web coming up at £1595 (inclusive of VAT & deleviry , + 10% coupon discount)
2) USA web coming up at £1425 (inclusive of Tax & Delivery to california , + 15% discount......)
3) USA outlet coming up at £700!(inclusive of Tax & Delivery to california , + 20% discount......) BUT I YR SUPPORT

shame the 20% outlet discount for USA ran expired on saturday.

I was going buy from outlet, ship to california and have my cousin bring it over.
Anyone found non expired outlet voucher for the US?



css_jay99

 

Sodding hell!!! £700 even without the additional 2 years support is amazing. By USA outlet what do you mean? eBay type of thing?

We should pool our resources and get your cousin to bag two of them. I'd pay him/her for his/her troubles!!!

 

Dell Factory Outlet

Is this the outlet you're referring to?

Good deals but using the 4670 graphics card.

 

thats the one dude, so when they have their 15% or 20% coupon, you will see that we live in rip off England!

 

Ive just checked the Dell US Outlet again now and the cheapest i7 820QM has gone up to $1,349!, yesterday it was only $1,019!.

I guess the outlet is a Cat n Mouse game. I wish I had taken the plung on SAT

 

Does anyone know when the HD5730 will show up for the 1647?

 

hi Floxie
I think that i am right in thinking the 1647 is the studio xps 16 in which case its availble with thd card in the us and india but has yet to hit europe.
If its not then we need insider info because Dell wont warn people that an update is coming a so encourage them to hold off on their purchase.
Not sure if that is helpful but i tried. ;-)

 

My only fear is that if the 5730 hits the Uk they might take away the RGBLED screen which will be a real shame!

css_jay99

 

Not necessarely. In Australia, Malaysia, India and some other countries the RGB LED is still available with an HD5730. Don't know why they took it away on the US/Canada site though..

Wish I could order a SXPS16 from Dell Malaysia.. A 1647 with RGB LED, i5 540 with an HD5730.. Would be a beautiful laptop imo.. And probably no throttling issues at all.

Dell Europe, hurry up with that damn HD5730..

 

well the RGLED is available on the XPS 16, just depends on the config whether or not its included or as an option

" Black Leather back cover : 15.6" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display [Included in Price]
Red Leather back cover : 15.6" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display add £0.00
White Leather back cover : 15.6" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display add £0.00
Black Leather back cover : 16" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD RGBLED Edge to Edge Display (Enhanced c [add £190.00 or £10/month1]
Red Leather back cover : 16" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD RGBLED Edge to Edge Display (Enhanced col [add £190.00 or £10/month1]
White Leather back cover : 16" (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD RGBLED Edge to Edge Display (Enhanced c [add £190.00 or £10/month1]"

I'm ready to part with the cash when this baby comes out with the 5730 and RGBLED.

Carlton, does your cousin have space for a few laptops, we might be able to fund the flight on the savings!!!

Dell Europe/UK/Ireland whatever, are you reading this? Grrrr

 

I'm just wondering how hard it would be to buy and install this card at a later date. At the moment you can get the XPS 16 with the following specs and free shipping for £1,149.

Core i7-820QM Processor
4GB DDR3 at 1333MHz
500GB 7,200RPM Free Fall Sensor HDD
Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

What do you guys think? When the card is available I'd be surpised if you could get this system with these specs for any less than £1,500.

 

If you mean the GPU, you cannot; it is built on the mobo.

 

Bah! Well that's that idea thrown out the window. Excuse my ignorance - I'm pretty new to the workings of laptops - but why are the GPUs integrated into the motherboard? Is this just a Dell thing, or are they all manufactured this way? I would have thought the GPU would have its own dedicated port like that of a desktop system.

 

although in india, xps 16 is available with HD5730 from the past two months, there isn't any option for RGB LED while personalising. forget about RGB LED, there isn't even mention of WLED with studio xps 16 with i7 processors whereas the ones with core 2 duo processors have WLED display written in their specificaions. so i am also confused whether xps 16 (i7) is backlit or not in india.

 

all laptops are built this way with a possible few high end rare exceptions I believe. There is a movemement to make graphics cards upgradeable but I dont think that the manufacturers want it as the current situation encourages churn.

Memory and hard disks can be upgraded but currently its an accepted fact of life that you have to upgrade the entire laptop if you want a better graphics card, hence we're waiting for the 5730 to make it into the Dell XPS 16 rather than buying one now and changing the card later (which isn't possible

BTW sorry if you think this forward but if you find my post or that of others helpful please click on the rep icon beneath our name (the scales icon), it adds to our reputation so that we can show our worth and climb the ladder to the lofty heights of deity.

 

The prices has gone up on the US outlet and no outlet voucher yet. Looks like its a bit too late to even make an order taht can be delivered

At £700 price I wont actually mind buying say about 6 laptops and personally going to the US to pick them up. Im recorn I can make £80 profit on each laptop (after sale on ebay .. still with original dell 1yr warr...) which will cover cost of the trip!

I wonder if good ol customs & excise will slap me with a 17.5% VAT when I roll back into the country


css_jay99

 

@daredevil_anand

You are mistaken, good sir. In India, on all Core i7 and Core i5(and as of yesterday, 1647 has finally arrived in India) based SXPS 16s, the 16" RGBLED option has always been available. As is the option for the 5730 HD card.

 

How much did that cost you MrHoHoHa? And what do you think of the machine?

 

This you just have to love!!! Both USA and India get the 5730 before the UK and for cheaper!!!

75,157.41 Rupees = 1,055.034 GBP

for this config (I've removed the repetitive stuff like Microsoft Officer starter pack and antivirus):
15.6" Edge to Edge Full High Definition(1080p) Display with TrueLife™
Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz,4 Cores/8 Threads,turbo up to 2.8GHz, 6MB Cache)
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit (English)
4GB (2GBx2) 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
500GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
Slot Load 8X DVD+/-RW Drive with DVD+R double layer write capability
1GB DDR3 ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5730
Dell 1520 Wireless-N card

Protect My Dell
1-year XPS Premier Service with 1-year CompleteCover
1 Year Dell Online Backup 2GB

Noise Isolation Ear Buds
Integrated CREATIVE Sound Blaster® X-Fi MB Audio Software Solution
9-cell (85WHr) Lithium Ion Primary Battery
130W AC Adapter
Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth
Dell™ Backlit Keyboard with Touchpad (English)

Ouch.

 

Maybe someone (preferably English) should email a higher up person that is responsable for Dell Europe? Or maybe just try [email protected] / [email protected] ..? And kindly ask if there are plans for releasing the HD5730 for the Studio XPS 16 in Europe, if so, when.. Because the local Dell Sales Reps know as much as we do, nothing.

Here's a nice list of "higher ups":
Dell Computer Complaints - either i get my computer or i just have to bring to court

 

Then tell me why RGB LED does not appear as an option while configuring on the indian website. Don't go by the statement on the xps main webpage which states:Brighten your view with the 15.6" LED or optional 16" RGBLED seamless display. I would also like to know why doesn't the xps 16 with core i7 merely shows 15.6" edge to edge FHD display and no WLED whereas the specifications of xps 16 with core 2 duo shows a WLED FHD display

 

By the way I found a review which clarified a point about the RBLED. Its primarily for those needing as close to absolutely true colour representation as possible. Colour calibration is what its about. Not going to make a massive impact on most of us. And its not the same as HD LED backlighting the likes of which you might find on new TV sets (such as Samsung Series 7 and 8) which makes black areas really black by turning off the LED behind the pixel.

Now 1920 x 1080 that makes a real difference whether its RGBLED or WLED.

 

Dell Studio XPS 16 with RGB LED Display Review - Laptop Reviews - TrustedReviews

Here is the page that had the description of hte RGBLED.

Oh and LED dimming is the feature that would make blacks really black by depriving the pixel of any backlighting. Not a feature of the Dell XPS RGBLED, but surely sometime in the future.

 

@Jules01

I got mine in December 2009 (newly launched in India, it was heavily discounted, and I picked it up for Rs. 70k ~ less than a thousand quid). It is more expensive here now - like you said, about 75k. I've had problems with it (throttling), but with the workarounds (Throttlestop+Rivatuner), it works just fine

@daredevil_anand
You need to click on the Customise button in the Core i7/i5 configurations to be able to pick the 16" RGBLED display. Its an expensive (Rs. 13k) option, which is why its not available as standard.

By the way, seems you're slightly confused regarding the displays.
15.6" is WLED, 1920x1080
16" is RGBLED 1920x1080

 

An RGBLED display would be nice if you have the reddies. To be honest though, if I had £190 spare, I'd rather have a better processor or more memory.

 

I have recently got a new Dell XPS 16 in the US. I was checking Dell's drivers, the last ATI driver was from end of January and 12x MB. ATI site has drivers from May and ~80MB. Any ideas if the update will work or if it is worth it?
On a side note, what are the optimal settings I need to choose in general for gaming on this laptop?

 

Thanks for the info. By the way i want to know why xps 1647 costs Rs.5580 extra in comparison to xps 1645 when i customize them with same specifications, the only difference being the processor (i5-540M in 1647 & i7-720QM in 1645). is the i5-540M more costly than i7-720QM?

the specifications that i keep the same are:
windows 7 professional, 4GB RAM, 500 GB SATA, blu-ray ROM, ATI HD5730, creative x-fi mb audio, 9 cell battery & 15.6" FHD display.