Dell Studio XPS 1340/1640 now available for purchase on Dell's site !!!

I actually have a notebook right now, I have a Dv6000 and my Brother has a Mini 9 (he loves it), but I really badly need something for gaming I have waited too long, my patience is running dry. But I got a feeling that the XPS 16 is worth it, but if it comes out and it does not impress me I will be deeply mad at dell, not because there new product is not what I was waiting for but look at the Dell Precision M6300 cost in Canada and look at it in U.S, a world of difference and I cannot even get the better GPU card in Canada.

 

So no one knows when dell well release the Studio XPS

 

No. But eveyone is guessing at CES 8-11 jan.

 

I hope so, cause I want one

Get rid of the M1530 that in my wish list

 

today I get the USA Newsletter:

http://view.ed4.net/v/PMOURB/P19R1/6VZ2XDX/62NQL8U/MAILACTION=1&FORMAT=H

and in the bottom an advertise for the studio xps:



so the studio xps will come, its only a question when.

 

oh that thing is sexy

 

And by the looks of that advertisement. Its bigger than the 13"
I'm very excited for the CES.

 

Not to mention it says "laptop s".

 

go ahead reward your self so from a marketing perspective they are going after luxury, and a higher tier demographic.

from the looks of it they are basically putting XPS components in a Studio case.

We know its will be DDR3 RAM. The only question is Graphics.

my guess since its superior to the Studio line but not quite above a Full blown XPS in the Gaming dept.

It will be an ATI 512MB 3870 the same one used in the m17.

Therefore placing it above a Studio 1737 with a 3650.

But somehwere below a Gaming XPS 1730 and its

Nvidia 8800 or 8700, I sure don't expect 1GIG of Gaming RAM.

People expecting the Studio XPS 1640 to be a gaming machine will be let down.

DELL can't afford to over night anger all of its 1730 XPS buyers.

And I don't expect a Core 2 Quad maybe a Core 2 Extreme.

And if they don't even offer a TV Tuner its not even a multimedia powerhouse.


Its clear that the Studio XPS line is more meant for the Luxury crowd.

Like the same people paying an extra $100 for the Brown or Black Leather Finish on the Studio XPS Hybrid desktops. Or $100 for the Bambo finish.

Take a Studio 17, chop off .06" of an inch of its screen, thrown in some DDR3 RAM and middle of the road GPU, a leather back cover and you have a Studio XPS 1640.

Not so excited I bet they even keep the same exact keyboard as the 1737.

 

Wow, you are so wrong.

1. They will not put a 3870 in the Studio XPS 16. The 3870 is not a 'middle of the road' card, it is the best single card ATI offers and can match the 9800M GTS.

2. The Studio XPS line is not a gaming line, but more of a home and media range. The best GPU you can expect in there will be a 3650 or a 9600M.

3. The keyboards will not be the same. Have you read the last few pages? Leaked pics of almost every detail have been released and the keyboard is a sort of half chicklet/half normal key style keyboard.

 

Yes, and seeing as Dell is 'vested' in nvidia, I would think its highly probable that the GPU would be 9600M

 

There has been a LOT of talk about what GPU will be used on the new Studio XPS, and rightfully so. I am relatively new to the High performance Laptop market and never game on my computer. Will I notice a difference with a better GPU while on the web or looking at photos or is a top end GPU only noticeable when running games?

 

I would have held off on my 1737 but the price I got was outrageous and I had to get the Montevenia CPU and chipset, which lets me get 5 hours or more with just webbrowsing, and light MS word use. And the 17 RGB LED screen really stands out.

But its main drawn back is the 3650 GPU only 256MB DDR2 RAM.

Ok for light gaming. But I have a PS3 and 360 for that.

But the Studio XPS 1640 will have DDR 3 RAM and a better GPU.

But not as good as a Full Gaming XPS.

All I want to play is Starcraft 2 this year. Thats about it. I really hope Blizzard optimizes for 2 Cores so I can use all my 6MB cache on the T9400.

And hopefully 64-bit

As far as the GPU on the Studio XPS 1640 I suspect DELL sticks with ATI because the 3650 is 55nm and has good watt usage and battery life.

NVIDIA's are more full fledged gaming and use more power watts.

 

No! In fact, save your money and pick up the current Studio laptop or get a Sony if you want some styling. If you use Adobe Photoshop CS4 to edit your photo then yes a better GPU will help. Otherwise, web and viewing photo are basic operations that almost any mondern low-end onboard GPU will be able to perform with ease.

 

What about for watching Blu Ray? Is a high end GPU required or desired to get the most out of your Blu Ray player?

 

No. ATi 32** 34** series and nVidia 9200, 9300 series are def. enough.
I've heard that the intel's X4500 integrated chip can even handle FullHD videos.

 

Nope as McBrainless said even the integrated video should be able to handle Blu-Ray.

 

this is the main reason I went with Montevenia new chipset from Intel. My T9400 barely breaks a sweat does not get hot or go above 15% with Bluray activity

before Bluray was stressing Core 2 Duos to 100% but not anymore Intel has been improving like I can not believe.

 

Interesting discussion - I guess we will know for sure by the CES on Jan 8-10.

Can someone point me to a comparison spec summary of all the current Dell laptop models? Thanks!

 

Dammit, I wish they'd hurry up and put something on the site already.

Ahh.

Oh, and release it with a 25% off coupon while they're at it.

(How long after the M1330 / M1530 release did the first 20% / 25% / 30% off coupons show up?)

 

Month or two.

 

We can only hope.

 

Ok, I tried reading through parts of this massive thread, but is the summary that:

1) We hope they will FINALLY announce a new XPS Studio line that is the refresh we all want next week?
2) What does that mean in terms of availability after the CES display?

I _almost_ ordered a HP laptop today and have no real issues with HP other than their support is supposed to be one of the worst (yes, makes Dell look good) and I hate the fingerprint magnet the DV5T, HDX16T, etc. are - otherwise they have everything I want.

 

1. Most likely the Studio XPS 13/16 will be announced during CES, if not before (i.e. within a week).

2. Most likely it will be available as soon as it's announced or very soon after.

 

I'm guessing you're able to order right after announcement, delivery will not happen before (half) February.

 

We had an old and even bigger Studio XPS Thread that got closed because of, ah, "certain individuals". hehe

 

Well, I'm guessing since someone linked a picture that they got from an email from Dell, then it will be somewhat quite soon...but just wondering if they will have at LEAST a 9600M or 9800 hopefully.

I don't really know what is meant by SLI hybrid as I have always avoided SLI like the plague when building my desktops (and the one I have right now with just one card is benched faster than any desktop Dell offers) but maybe for laptops it's ok...

 

The Hybrid SLI that we think that they are going to include is not really SLI. What Hybrid SLI refers to is the ability for the computer to switch between integrated and discrete graphics so that when browsing the internet or doing other processes that do not require a discrete graphics card the computer can just use the integrated to save power and produce less heat. In the opposite direction, when you play games or use applications that require a better card the computer will switch to the discrete card.

 

Hyrid SLI means that the GPU and suitable onboard graphics will run at the same time when running games to boost performance.
So you could have 9400m onboard and 9600m GT descrete and the machine would use both when gaming under Hybrid SLI.
Being able to switch between descrete and onboard graphics is a Montevina feature.

 

Oh ffs guys why keep hijacking the thread, read the title it says rumours not F***ing speculation.

 

Just a couple of more days to CES... =)

 

I cant wait for Studio Xps Specs...

 

Can you really have rumours without speculation?

 

What is your problem?

 

Who knows. Then again, I'm not much interested in hardware speculation myself; I just want January 8th to get here already.

 

with all the coming soon Ads and propaganda it will definitely be shown at CES 2009.

Followed by a huge sell off at DELL, followed by a DELL 30% or 40% coupon off Outlet Laptops, because they need to get rid of the units everyone returned.

 

Just to clear up any confusion, NVIDIA Hybrid SLI for Notebooks offers two functions: GeForce Boost and HybridPower.

GeForce Boost is the idea you are thinking of where it uses both integrated and discrete graphics at the same time during gaming to improve performance (it is under debate if the performance boost is advantageous as on the desktop platform many have found it to decrease performance). GeForce Boost only works on discrete graphics processors that are the NVIDIA GeForce 9500M G or below (so your example of a NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT would not work).

HybridPower, which is arguable the only benefit of NVIDIA Hybrid SLI, uses the integrated graphics when doing non-extensive tasks such as Internet browsing, watching videos, etc. while it uses the discrete graphics for gaming and rendering which should increase battery life and lower overall temperatures.

The form of NVIDIA Hybrid SLI most likely to be seen in the new Dell Studio XPS series of notebooks is HybridPower given that they decided to still use NVIDIA Hybrid SLI and that they are going to put a NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or better in them (I personally hope they put a NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS or better in the Dell Studio XPS 1640, but that may be unrealistic for Dell).

P.S. I'm growing anxious to know whether or not these Dell Studio XPS notebooks are going to be worthwhile to me. If they are going to announce it as CES, which is what everyone is speculating, what are the chances it will happen on Thursday and not a different day of CES?

Edit: After some research, I've noticed that unless they opt to use maybe a 120W power supply instead of the 90W that is typical for Dell notebooks, then the notebook will most likely be limited to a NVIDIA GeForce 9650M GT at the best which falls very short of my hopes of a NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS. Also, since the lowest-end NVIDIA GeForce 9M series graphics processor that has a 256-bit memory bus is the GeForce 9700M GTS, then that means even if it had 512MB of graphics memory, it most likely won't be fully utilized.

 

What ever it is I hope its superior to Apple's MacBook Pros

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT with 512MB

Remember it can't be superior to a gaming system, everyone is expecting the Studios XPS to be GAMING systems, that is not their Demographic or niche.

Also CPU wise the may get the latest Monteviniea but not any Core 2 Duo Extreme or Core 2 Quad, those are reserved for DELL's High end XPS line

If the do include Core 2 Extreme and Core 2 Quad options that will be DELL's signal that the XPS line will soon die. (as it should)

I too am guessing that it will be Hybrib from NVIDIA. Which is very very appealing if performance is increased, because it can use both the Integrated GPU and the Discrete or Dedicated GPU combined at the same time during the Most demanding aka gaming situations. This is amazing to me to see how far laptops have come.

I would be upset right now buyers remorse having just bought a new 1737, because such newer better Studio XPS with DDR3 and a better graphics card is around the corner.

However I wonder if it will be sporting an RGB LED screen.


But I take comfort because my 1737 can keep more more than happy till Capella in Q3 09 Core i7, which will be able to run circles around a Studio XPS 1640, or even the poor slobs in the Alienware forum boasting about their new m17's

All of which will be rendered obsolete by the Core i7's which will be worlds faster be either 45nm or 32nm and have a very powerfull Graphics card.

So me and my 1737 T9400 1066FSB 6MB cache and Vista 64-bit can wait patiently till November.

The suspense is killing me to know what the specs and prices will be with these new

Adamo
Studio XPS 13
Stidio XPS 1640

 

Could I please have your input on this:

Do you think the new Studio XPS 16 will support 2 internal hard drives?

It will be a deal breaker for me if it doesn't.

 

*speculation* NO.
It doesn't make sense for the Studio XPS line to have dual hard drives. It is not a gaming line. It's a luxury/premium line. You'll have to look at the gaming line like Alienware, Asus, Saga, etc... dual hard drives would mean a bulkier case and that's absolutely not the XPS market. I think you should start looking for something else.

 

I'll also speculate: No. Dell will try to keep it light, like Sony FW.

Better get yourself Acer 6930. 16.4" with 2 HDDS.

 

The current Studio 17 has support for two internal hard drives, but that machine doesn't fit the "gaming line" either, so I can't quite follow your logic. But I was thinking that the (most likely) smaller chassis on a Studio XPS 16 would probably not support a second hard drive.

I guess it won't have a dedicated numerical keypad either.... but hold on, I see the Acer 6930 that Phil refers to, has a full keyboard.

 

Sorry Phil, but the 6930 does not have 2 internal HDDs. That's the 8930G you're thinking about. And, yeh, I can comment on the 6930 keyboard (it's the same as my laptop's). It's an absolute pleasure to type on and feels solid. Chicklets (or even half-chicklets) have never been my style but I can't imagine them being too different.

 

As you can see in the previously posted image, it won't have a numerical keypad.

 

That picture is of the 13 SXPS (Studio XPS)

the 16 inch 1640 SXPS which has a 16.4" inch screen should have a full size keyboard and num pad.

since all they are doing is cutting off .6" of in inch off the top of the screen and making it more Narrow

Width should stay the same as the Studio 17


I guess for cost and product reasons thats why these new Studio XPS units look so Similar to current Studio designs

DELL is basically adding a new keyboard design, and new Size screen, But keeping the case design hinge design. That way they save money by using what they already have.

 

i hope...because i think it´s awful

 

No, it's not. I'm pretty sure that ad shows the Studio XPS 16.
Take a look at this shot of the studio 13 : http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/12/xps13eng07.jpg
and tell me that is the same computer. See the keys go all the way to the edge? Well they dont on the ad..

Shub

 

You need glasses dude. That link shows the Studio XPS 1640.

The image of the Studio XPS 13 is this one. Check again the distances at the right side of both keyboards.

 

How would they be able to use what they already have? It looks like a completely different design including the case. If the screen sizes are different how would the case be the same?

 

perfect the 1640 without the num pad...dont you think guys that the num pad in a laptop is awful?

will they be released at the same time??i´m waiting pacient 2 days...