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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. nunomoreira10

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    The new xps is slimer then the old one and they probably use a slim type screen so the 95% gamut is not compatible.
     
  2. Husar

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    I beg to differ, the screen on my vaio Z is 4mm thick and the beizel stands out 1mm from the screen itself. It also has 96% Adobe RGB coverage.
     
  3. mahapatra

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    WLED screen is always a disappointment when you have a completely awesome screen in the previous generation model! I find no reason in downgrading the quality of the screen. Instead they could have made a killer combination of B+RG LED and IPS screen!
     
  4. techtonic

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    I'm holding off full opinion until the laptop is released and reviews by users are available, but it would be unfortunate if the display quality is going backwards, especially when the fruit company the PC makers are chasing is rumored to be putting out a crazy spec'd display in June.
     
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    Hasn't Dell Bill hinted that the screen will be *at least* the quality of the previous generation when he said, "I haven't known Dell to backtrack when it comes to screen quality." (Couldn't find the page it was on)
     
  7. cbullard

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    Okay... I found the quote. Surely it would be considered backsliding if they dropped the higher end screen offerings like those of the current L502X!
     
  8. PaKii94

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    maybe the wled fhd screen is base model and they got a fhd+ res screen waiting :D :D like the mbp
     
  9. mark_pozzi

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    all he said in his quote was more resolution and more NITs nothing about RGB etc. I would say it will be a WLED screen just full HD and brighter.
     
  10. mahapatra

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    This is too much to hope from Dell! :D
     
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    Jako Notebook Evangelist

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    And with DDR5 memory.

    One thing that is in common on new all-in-one from Dell, HP, Asus is the lack of touch screen displays. I think the manufacturers know something about windows 8, the no Metro desktop.
     
  15. Husar

    Husar Notebook Consultant

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    Wonder whether Dell-Bill has got anything up his sleeve for us soon, its been a while since he last posted.
     
  16. DRCOOL

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    I think that's because of Memorial Day here in the states.
     
  17. zation

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    The pictures of new MBP is out, amazingly beautiful. Dell please please don't fall behind even Apple to release your stuff...
     
  18. beno619

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    How bout a link ?
     
  19. The Muffin Man

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    Nice first-time post, troll. No new info today on MBP, only iPhones. Link or leave.
     
  20. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    I hope this follows the lines of the m1530 XPS. Best laptop I ever owned. I'd sell my sager np9130 in a heart beat if this design is similar with media touch keys and a smaller slimmer build then the sager.

    Any word on release date?
     
  21. DRCOOL

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    As said earlier, most likely early June.
     
  22. gaidin43

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    Dammit I just bought this sager and now might need to look at selling it.

    The current XPS model is just too bulky and has a lackluster design and specs. The XPS z is ok, but again you can't customize as desired very well with it.

    I really hate dealing with India, errr I mean dell tech support, but the warranty coverage is actually pretty good with dell. The 4 year coverage I had for m1530 paid its self off with the 3 times I had to use it.

    The specs of the mx14 are nice it's just the case is not very professional and it's too bulky.

    I'm hoping this is the specs of an np9130 with the keyboard layout and design of an m1530. Alot to wish for I know.
     
  23. Dell-Bill_B

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    Whew. A lot to get to today. The muzzle is still on, but let's see what we come up with here.

    I'll leak this: there will be Ethernet ports on the next XPS systems released. The one on the 14 is kinda fancy.

    This is one of those "guard rail to guard rail" things. With Studio XPS 16, we were too far against the design guard rail, and missed on performance (see GPU/CPU throttling issues). With the current gen XPS 15 and 17, we went too far over to performance and missed on design a bit in the opinions of many.

    If I say too much here, I'm giving away some details by way of extrapolation. I will say those JBL speakers in the current gen are darn nice. I'll comment on screen quality below.

    A sage observer. I won't say which of these observations is the sagest, but one is sage indeed.

    I have not specifically tested the speakers yet, but the JBL+subwoofer option with the bigger chassis in the current gen is going to be hard (impossible?) to match.

    Indeed I was talking NITS and resolution there, and nothing to do with color gamut.
     
  24. PaKii94

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    im not saying the current gen are asthetically appeasing lol. i just said that were the main reasons I would get it over other competing brands.

    well now we basically know the speakers wont be as good. can you talk alittle bit about the screen? :p

    as for the gaurd rail anaology. I think this new gen of xps will be good for both as long as there are no heat issues/throttling.
     
  25. russhw

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    dell bill am i cutting it to close to have a XPS 14 by July 1st?
     
  26. Dell-Bill_B

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    I can't say anything on the screen yet. Heat and throttling should not be an issue, but I have not tried Furmark or anything on one yet.
    On the guard rail thing, I was intimating that the chassis thickness of the current gen gave us something nice to work with on the thermals and room for a subwoofer. I think the current 15 has no sub, correct? (too lazy to look it up) If that's the case, I can say the speakers on the new ones are as good or better than the 15.

    Disclaimer: I used to drive a 2003 Focus 5 door with a 15" Solobaric L7 and a 3000 Watt mono amp, so I'm partial to anything with bass. It's hard for me to listen to any speaker set up that doesn't include a sub, and say, "Sounds as good as the one with a sub." I just can't do it.
     
  27. Dell-Bill_B

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    So cannot answer this question. Sorry.
     
  28. PaKii94

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    I also do love bass. I thought the current one did have a subwoofer lol. im also too lazy :p maybe someone else would be willing. are you able to compare the sound with the hp envy 15 (I understand beats is more of a gimmick but it does have good sound).

    my last concernw ould be the screen if it didnt match up with the envy 15's ips fhd screen

    (as you can probably tell envy 15 and the xps 15 are the ones im considering maybe the new mbp)
     
  29. Dell-Bill_B

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    No screen talk yet. You have a very tough decision to make. All 3 are compelling choices. It will come down to trade offs for you. Price vs OS vs quality (quality should be similar for all 3 though) vs sound vs screen vs everything else. I have not listened to an Envy, but I've read the sound is quite nice. If you are really into sound, though, IMO, that's an easy trade off to overcome: use the best headphones you can afford on whichever system you choose.
     
  30. Francesco V.

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    Envy ips display is another big soap opera. Imho they are completely faulty due to the orangish red and, generally, missing colors (if i remember well violet/magenta are blu)
     
  31. Dell-Bill_B

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    ...but...but...but it says "Radiance" on it, so it has to be the best, right? ;)
     
  32. PaKii94

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    yeah yeah w.e lol lets not get into that but the updated screen should have fixed that (hopefully) but it is an ips display i think i could get over the color reproduction probelsm considering waht im upgrading from
     
  33. jeremfg

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    Envy 15 seems like a good choice so far, except from one thing that bugs me...

    Almost all connectors are on the right side... This laptop is defninitely made for left-handed people!

    Forget having a mouse on the side if you're right-handed and connect a few cables!!

    Any news about port placement on the next xps 15?
     
  34. DRCOOL

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    Dell Bill - can you say anything on pricing relative to the current gen and the competiton. :p
     
  35. Dell-Bill_B

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    Can't talk pricing.
     
  36. russhw

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    ooooooooooo well it was worth a try :D
     
  37. Elands

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    To go along with the port placement comment, any information on the ports that will be there or number of (i.e. thunderbolt)
     
  38. Serephucus

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    My humble opinion here would be: "Screw that". I'd jump on an Ivy/Kepler refresh of the current chassis in a second. I wouldn't mind something thinner, but I do love the speakers on the current 17.

    Reinforcing what I said above. I wantz mah sub-woofer.


    Any talk of batteries? Standard 6/9-cell affair, or are we talking thin-and-light-esque 8-cell integrated?
     
  39. FMruss

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    Oh no Mr. Bill..........
    Kidding aside - it is very surprising that dell has allowed you to share what you can on this thread. This is very forward thinking and business savy on Dell's part.
    If my budget allows, I would love to pick up an XPS with 1920x1020 screen resolution -
     
  40. The Muffin Man

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    Anandtech posted a review of the new Dell XPS All-in-One. I know we're talking about different beasts between an AIO and the L521x, however the following quote deals with the 640M and GDDR5:

    "The GDDR5 on the GeForce GT 640M also allows the GPU in the XPS One to stretch its legs, delivering at least twice as much graphics performance as the last generation all-in-one from Dell. At this point I'm convinced going with anything but GDDR5 on all-in-one graphics hardware is unacceptable; either stick with the IGP or go all in. Power consumption isn't as big of an issue with all-in-ones, and the bandwidth afforded by GDDR5 is essential for providing a decent gaming experience at 1080p."

    AnandTech - Dell XPS One 2710 Review: The Premium All-in-One
     
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    http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/189730.htm

    A Chinese link. But I cannot say it is confirmed though because I don't see the source.

    Update: My bad. It is concept :( Cheated by the translated article...
     
  42. sensei22

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    Bill, any word on HDD options? is Dell aligning to the trend of offering not only traditional mechanical HDDs and SSD, but also hybrid and a combo of mechanical HDD+mSATA internal SSD?
     
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    It would be a big mistake if they didn't have an option for a big HDD w/ mSATA SSD and only went with SSD...
     
  44. PaKii94

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    maybe it will be a big enough ssd (512+ gb) :D
     
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    +1 on this. I love the current chassis of the L702X. If the XPS 17 refresh was just the exact same thing as the L702X except updated with the latest Ivy/Kepler chips, I would buy this in a heartbeat. I don't really care for it being thinner if the sacrifice will be on cooling, JBL speakers/subwoofer and ports. If people want a really thin notebook, then get an ultrabook. I don't want to lose my precious ports which I rely heavily on.
     
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    lol i just want a stylish notebook.... the new xps so far fits the bill besides from what we have heard of the screen
     
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    Looking forward to the official announcement of this model and more importantly the price.

    I can get an Inspiron 14R special edition out here (PRC) for around $1,000 including 3 years onsite warranty. 3rd generation i7 quad core processor, Kepler GT 640m (albeit DDR3) 8gb of ram, 1600x900 screen, 1gb hard drive, backlight keyboard and it’s only 2.3kg. That’s pretty decent and suits work and gaming needs. Looks ugly mind and not as aesthetically pleasing as the XPS but at that price (very competitive out here) with those strong components, I don’t expect a premium finish.

    In contrast, the old second generation XPS models are close to $1,500 and that’s before you add warranty and upgrade processor (from i5-i7), ram, screen et cetera.

    Screen and GPU is important to me, so can probably downgrade to a i5 if I can get a high quality screen and a DDR5 640m.
     
  48. HappyJon

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    So after reading all 70 pages of this forum I finally decided to register. A sincere thanks goes out to Dell Bill for telling us all that he has so far. Thanks man. I can't wait for this thing!
     
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    Been following this thread since about page 25 and have decided to join to say my 2 cents.

    I'm waiting to purchase a new XPS Ivy Bridge laptop before June 30th (end of financial year in Australia) for the business and to claim back on tax.

    I will need to make a decision in the next 2 weeks, before the 16th of June.

    I would like a dell as the office has all dell hardware and the last inspirion 6400 has lasted 5 years this May.

    Is there any chance the XPS is going to come out before then or do I have to look at HP or others?
     
  50. mahapatra

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    Bill,At least tell whether it can compete with the rivals like envy 15(despite the "orange" thing, it looks great) and mbp 2012(retina display?) in terms of display quality.

    Do you have any triumph card like IPS or PLS panel(like the XPS One 27) /fhd+ /RGB or B+GR led as an upgrade option? :D

    1080p wled + TN panel can't make up to the rivals! I am worried because to me screen is the biggest priority and you guys have made worst screens in recent days(xps 13,m14x R2)! :mad:

    But Bill, you guys have made XPS One 27 a really good system! I hope it will give excellent fight to imacs and other all in ones!
     
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