New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

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As of yet, no one is sure of exact release date. Just that it is 'soon'.
Give it another week, the rest of Ivy Bridge processors are meant to be launched on 3rd June. Possibly then we will get more announcments from dell.

 

I have two questions for dell Bill: how is it possible that the only picture of the l521x is on a dutch tech website and not on the verge or anandtech or something similar from the US? Foto en details dunne Dell XPS 15 met Gorilla Glass verschenen | Core | Tweakers.net Nieuws
and all other sources use the same picture, is this picture legit or is it a mockup?
and the second question: when the l521x is released, how long will it take to come available in europe?

edit: another question, was this a planned leak or a real leak?

 

If that is real, it looks nice, a lot like a MBP.

 

How do you think this new XPS will compare to an np9130 stock for gaming performance? Will the m670 in the sager blow anything this will have in it out of the water? Will the screen be as good as the sager stock matte screen?

The CPUs will be equivalent for the most part. Ram isn't an issue, never really need more then 8GB.

I hope the keyboard layout and media keys are present like the m1530.

I know it's all speculative at this point, but I have week left from xotopic to return my sager in the 30 day window and if this laptop is anything like its supposed to be ill return my sager in a heartbeat.

 

XPS is never for gaming. It's multimedia line. If you are looking for gaming & 670M, take a look at Alienware

 

No specifics on battery I can share yet, but in general, battery life is looking good.

1. Strictly against Dell policy to comment on leaks. It's against policy to comment on unreleased products as well, but I'm pushing that one as far as I can. I won't mess with the leak policy at all.
2. It will launch in all major regions on the same day, which does include EMEA.
3. No comment on leaks at all. In general, we do not have a "leak strategy."

 

XPS is a multimedia laptop but does very well playing most games due to the higher level components from in multimedia and gaming laptops. I know it is not a "gaming" platform, but it does look much more professional then an Alienware. At one point they were considering ending the Alienware line and replacing it with the XPS line.

I like all the aspects of a multimedia computer (touch media controls, keyboard layout, design, screen) but just want it to have a top of the line or right below top of the line GPU.

It can be a very capable gaming laptop depending on the GPU. My m1530 lasted years playing games.

 

Sorry Dell-Bill for telling everybody about this

But I thought you guys might like it.

Here's a google webcache of the new Dell L512x inside the Dell Webshop.
It has obviously been hidden again, but everything seems final and ready for release.

Google webcache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...e/p/xps-15-l521x/pd+&cd=2&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl

 

Yes, It run most of the games. But he was comparing with 670M which is only possible in Alienware series.

This is an old news. Shared couple of pages back.

 

Haha, didn't see that. I just came across it today.

 

I want ask to Bill, info about eSata port, will be there?
I know eSata port is disappeared from almost every new Dell.
What about keyboard, is backlit?

I would want also to know, if when will go out L521X we will have all the possible informations about others new XPS like an XPS15 more powerful than L521X or new XPS17, even if they exist...

 

Bill,

I'm sure you can't answer this yet, but will the XPS line have a fingerprint reader and TPM or will that remain solely on the business lines? I really like the convenience of bitlocker when using a TPM.

Thanks

Eric

 

Esata is disappearing along with touchscreens and fingerprint readers... they most likely.wont be on the l521x.

Backlit keyboard is a given although im not sure if it will be available in every region

 

Hey Bill are you talking about the 15z here? The XPS 15 has a sub, but the 15z doesnt!

 

I'd like to know that too... I don't understand the current trend of ditching eSATAp. Are manufacturers saving that much ? I mean, what's the difference between a USB 3.0 port and eSATA/USB 3.0 combo, cost-wise ? $2 ? $5 ?

 

No hes talking about the regular 15... he just didnt know it had a sub and it really wasnt worth his time to look it up. But in theory it should sound the same if not better than the 15z.

Hey Bill i have $$$$$ i want to throw at you guys for this sexy laptop!!! You guys need a preorder page so i can order and mindlessly stare at this beast!
Or you can just release it

Do you even know how long you guys (dell) will continue torturing us?

 

did anyone notice there is a multitouch option for the xps 15 screen? and yeah no 1080p option

(I was just looking to c how much it would be for me to buy one right now )

 

Multitouch option? where?

No 1080? What are you talking about?

 

The multitouch screen option currently on the dell store is as confusing as it is intriguing. When I talked to a dell rep online I was told that the multitouch option is not only glass but is flush with the bezel (w8 compatibility concerns). Seeing as I can't find anything else online about it and it isn't really classified info, maybe this is a place Mr. Bill can actually shed some light on.

Unlike many, I am more on the supportive side of windows 8 and touch input (not without much skepticism and deep thought however). A touch screen option on this upcoming laptop with the already speculated glass on the screen would seal my purchase. I can't be too hopeful though...

 

Im right there with you a touch screen would be awesome with windows 8 coming up.

When the current XPS l501x was first released there were rumors of it coming with a touch screen but as far as i can remember it never happened. A touchscreen on this laptop would put it in front of the macbook in my eyes... but i dont really see the need for a higher resolution than 1080p on a 15 inch laptop.

Edit: Could this be a sign that there going to keep the current xps design along with the new one? It seems too late in the l502x products life cycle to be adding new options doesnt it? Unless there going to keep it and release the l521x along side of it. Hopefully Bill can comment why they would add this option now?...

 

in the customizing area lol. its multitouch 768p and no 1080p option =\

 

lol its not gonna be bigger desktop area its just gonna be scaled up so it looks mroe crisp. and multitouch screen would be interesting... the fingerprints will be a problem tho

someone who has a couple hundred dollars to spare order the multitouch xps and share the experience?

 

Multitouch Screens make sense for mobile devices but not so much for laptops. Think of the ergonomics and the strain from holding your arm at the screen the whole time. I think it definitely has its place in the tablet and smartphone world but at a certain form factor and screen size it's just gimmicky.

This, however is the future: Leap Motion. No perceptable lag, recognized as a mouse input, hundreds of registered points at once... it's incredible. Once those get integrated into new PCs, all you need is a screen.

 

yeah thats good but i think the multitouch would be a complement/suppliment to the touchpad. not the primary data input. and how long do u hold ur finger on the touchpad? my hand mostly stays on keyboard except for scrolling or clicking. i never constantly have it on there... unless i happen to be gaming on there but who does that

i also like the leap motion idea but i think that would cause more strain that resting the hand against the touchscreen just sayin. also you can look at how the transformerprime is in its dock. i think multitouch screen is a good idea.

 

I think the leap would cause significantly less strain, check out this video and see the clip of them playing fruit ninja: Introducing the Leap - YouTube the distance they need to move is so much smaller than if they were touching the screen. Also, the screen stays fingerprint free and you can interact without leaning forward to touch.

I think touch screen laptops are a fad, but I could be wrong.

 

Exactly, I was thinking touch as a compliment to mouse and keyboard. Call it a gimmick or whatever, many times I want to reach out and swipe my screen on my laptop running windows 8 consumer preview but can't.

Dell XPS 15 Laptop Details | Dell

For the current gen xps 15:

As I said before, online dell rep told me the screen covering on that option is glass and no bezel. Where did that come from and why does there seem to be no confirmed info on it?

 

No I understand, but I think it will be a lot easier to use a device such as Leap instead of a touch screen. Also, think of what Microsoft could do with a 3D interface if Windows 8 already looks great for a 2D touch interface.

Hopefully it will only be 2 more days until I can order my XPS, but I'm not sure if I want a 14 or 15...

 

Count me out of the touch screen fad. Who wants fingerprints all over their PC screen? Bad enough we're forced to live with them on our smartphones and handhelds. I know a lot of people are oblivious to that kind of thing, though. A huge pet peeve of mine is when someone is pointing at something on my screen to show it to me, and their finger actually makes contact, like they don't even realize they're applying their nasty, streaky oils to an otherwise immaculate display.

Besides, is it really easier or more comfortable to raise your arm up and keep touching things than it is to simply rest it on a mouse and click? :\

Edit: As I realize that someone else already made a similar comment. Oh, well. I guess a supplementary input method couldn't hurt as long as it didn't muddle the image at all. But I doubt I would ever use it personally.

 

lol c thats where i would think ur a tad bit wrong . both mac and windows are going towards touch interfaces and i think it would be much more simple to touch and swipe than hassle with the mouse/touchpad

 

there are better ways than a touchscreen to accomplish that, though. I think PC manufacturers are jumping on the recent success of touchscreen devices, but it is not practical in this use. As much as I despised the guy, Steve Jobs was right when he said

"We've done tons of user testing on this, and it turns out it doesn't work. Touch surfaces don't want to be vertical. It gives great demo but after a short period of time, you start to fatigue and after an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off. it doesn't work, it's ergonomically terrible. Touch surfaces want to be horizontal, hence pads."

There are better ways, we just need to think outside of the box. Leap might not be it, but look how much gesture recognition has helped the Kinect.

 

I hate to prolong this thread's drifting into the land of controversial touch input, but the argument for touch is that the counterargument resembles the same one that opposed the use of the mouse when it first came out.

In touch's defense, I can sit here and rest my arm while using my finger to touch the screen without much more energy than using the mouse (ideally you would use a laptop and not a large monitor several feet away). Also, when you think about a mouse and a trackpad, it just may be true that they are rather clunky input methods, distant from any natural method of input. Not saying that touch is the future, but no need to knock it right away, it has shown resilience in the consumer market for long enough.

So I assume nobody knows about the multitouch option in the web store?

 

sorry to draw attention away, it'll be interesting to see whether it sticks!

 

I found some photos of L521X on the internet:
http://slide.tech.sina.com.cn/notebook/slide_5_30058_21407.html#p=14

It seems that Dell is going to use the old xps 15z case. It seem logical because xps 15z has disappeared on the australian website, and it's only being around for a year.

 

lol i really highly doubt theyre going to use the same 15z case. The other pic looked much more realistic, looked like a bigger version of the current xps 13 with a mate finish.

 

Where is the links for the other photos?

 

No, title is misleading.

Dell will not use very same thing for new version.

You are confused for title.

 

Just web page error, pictures were uploaded 4.8.2011.

 

From the one leaked photo, we know this is not real.

 

Google search says it's 2012 (year) 4 (th month) and 8 (th day) when this is website is released. It's just that in Chinese they put year, month and then the day.

Also this website and it's photos says the same:
http://product.pcpop.com/000336111/Index.html
http://product.pcpop.com/000336111/Picture.html

 

Bill said there would be home/end/pgup/pgdn keys and dedicated touchpad buttons. that means the keyboard is at least different. I think the picture is just an early mock-up and not final.

 

when did he say that? and i would rather have a clickpad :|

 

I have no idea on the final design; that's just the photo I found when I tried to find what people were talking about. I just was trying to help newcomers to the thread by digging through the thread and providing a direct link, since otherwise we just have a bunch of people idly referencing something while it's up to the reader to dig through 75 pages' worth of posts to find out what's going on.

I would MUCH rather have dedicated buttons! I find clickpads awkward and inconvenient.

 

I'm not sure what you guys mean by clickpad, unless you're talking about how it works on a MBP. However, in that leaked photo from Tweakers you can clearly see two distinct buttons at the base of the touchpad, and as always, you can single/double tap the touchpad to activate a variety of functions.

The Asian website photos are wrong. That is the 15z from last year, and that is not how the new XPS 15/L521x will look in any way. And if the Tweakers leak is the final production version, there are no dedicated home/end/page-up down keys.

 

this is a click pad:


which is similar to the same as the leaked pic

 

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As a Asus Transformer Prime owner, I would have to disagree with you. I love the touchscreen on my Transformer but on a larger 15" display it will not be ergonomic. This is the one time I find myself agreeing with Steve Jobs. Vertical screens + touchscreen == bad ergonomics. If the Transformer is sitting on the dock and very close to me then its not terrible because I can rest my hand/fingers on top of the monitor and use my thumb to reach most things. Once I move the Transformer further away(approximately the distance a 15" laptop would be) it is no longer comfortable to use the touchscreen and I wind up using the built in touchpad instead despite generally preferring the touchscreen.

Where a touchscreen would be nice is with swipes and gestures. However, if you've used a Macbook Pro with OS X then I believe you will see that this can be done intuitively with a touchpad rather than a touchscreen.

 

There's a laptop touchscreen discussion here to prevent this thread from going too off topic.

 

last post about touchscreens in laptops: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404830,00.asp

this is what i was talking about

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btw dual cores ivy bridges have been released early so a flood of laptops should be releasing quite soon

 

my best guess as to when its coming out is on or about June 7. Dell currently has ridiculous (and very tempting) sales going on and "quantities are limited." The current xps has savings of nearly $500, from 1392 to 899.

Either way im pretty much gonna grab up the new l521x the moment it comes out. if they build it anything like my current m1530 it'll outshine competition for years to come. it may be 3.5 years old but i still get a solid 2 hours of battery life and can outperform most of my friends laptops.

Edit: as for the mega savings, it looks like the $1392 model was previously before around the 1100-1200 range, and only the 768p screen is available now. all new stock coming to dell?