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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. asdad123

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    Is that just the 14" xps or has it been confirmed that the 15" will be using ulv procs as well?

    That's a deal killer for me.
     
  2. joshuajag

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    We didn't get a look at the other side though, so who knows.
     
  3. Elands

    Elands Notebook Evangelist

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    Dell Bill talks a few pages back that we will be happy with the selection of CPU's after a question about there being more to choose from than just an i7 - 3612QM, so no worries there though it may be an option.
     
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    How does a dual core processor (i5-3210m for example) have the same TDP as a quad core (i7-3612QM)? Is it really just the quad core being clocked lower than the other quads, with max turbo on single/dual core the same as the dual cores? (3.1 single, 2.9 dual, and for quad, 2.7 quad??) and that said, would a dual core CPU with a 35W TDP generate the same amount of heat as a quad core CPU with a 35W TDP?
     
  6. DRCOOL

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    Just curious where you found these "stats" out. I haven't seen anything to say that
     
  7. ejl1980

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    makes me curious what the dimensions are. I'm not really thrilled with the new latitude release. Way over priced compared to last years, and very few with dedicated graphics. I think I'm leaning XPS again :)
     
  8. The Muffin Man

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    We only know it will be .95/.96 of an inch thick, so under an inch.
     
  9. ejl1980

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    Sorry, I meant more weight / width /depth. Thin doesn't really get me excited.
     
  10. Muddy

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    Thats what she said...
     
  11. jamezr

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    That...my friend was priceless! :)
     
  12. Jako

    Jako Notebook Evangelist

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    Something interesting on the bottom of Inspiron 5423 (14z):
    Embedded controller reset button, it allows you to turn off your computer when it locks up or fails to respond and you need paper clip to press it.
     
  13. truciet

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    From Amazon leaks, the XPS 14 will use ultra-low processors and the XPS 15 will use your standard i5/i7.

    I will definitely look into the XPS 15. I would rather the XPS 14 though.
     
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    you are awesome
     
  16. The Muffin Man

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    Did you get lost?
     
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    Hey Intarweb, Bill has led me to believe this is not the case, see my questions a few pages back. He posted that it would be comparing oranges to grapes as the grapes (competitors) were not using the IVB U processors... He then took back that statement and corrected himself while letting me know that I will be happy with the processor choice in the XPS 15. As you may know the U processors are only dual core. I specifically asked about a quad core cpu option. Know what I mean, know what I mean, nudge, nudge...

     
  18. joshuajag

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    Here's the screen specs from the Dell website:
    [​IMG]

    So you're thinking they will be full voltage processors? I think when he said ULV he was thinking of the XPS 14.
     
  19. intarweb

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    Oh...wow! Quad Core in the 14 would be really cool! Although, I'd wonder about overheating O_O

    I wonder what GPU the 14 will have...
     
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    Wow, the XPS 14/15 looks stunning!! Really really happy about that!

    One thing nonetheless that I just can't keep thinking about: everything leads me to think that this actually the killer-laptop, i.e. the perfect laptop: thin, powerful, good battery life, good screen, etc. However the perfect laptop doesn't exist and every computer that was thought to be perfect on paper (at least for me) such as the Samsung S7 Chronos, the Envy 15 and their refreshed IB versions have all been disappointing in their own way. As such I am terrified that I will be very disppointed in the new XPS. Keep inmind that the perfect laptop does not exist and that a flaw (wether it is a deal-breaker or not) will ultimately come up. Now it all depends on what kind of flaw it is and what importance you give it. I just hope it's as good as we think it might be.
     
  21. Botsu

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    They look beautiful for all I can tell. Guess it means there's no optical drive on the XPS 14 (if this is the XPS 14), unless it's on the left side ? What about the XPS 15 ? No optical drive on both would be fine as far as I'm concerned !

    One thing that bothers me is the rubberized surface. I hope it doesn't become a dust magnet as is apparently often the case...
     
  22. cbullard

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    +1 - This laptop will undoubtedly make many of us forum lurkers very happy, but depending on your specific combination of needs it may disappoint (e.g., if you regularly use an optical drive). A single laptop cannot meet everyone's needs.

    As for the design and Bill's question about MBP-ish design: (1) It looks flippin' sweet... can't wait to get my hands on one. Fantastic materials, slick design and color/texture combinations. (2) It doesn't look like a MBP clone. If I was trying to build a MBP clone in order to steal sales, this is not what I would build. (3) Every laptop shares certain design aspects, and all premium laptops are going to have certain similarities. This is simply because large trackpads are great to use and aluminum happens to be a great material for laptop shells. Design differentiation comes from hinges, lighting, color, texture, and the use of carbon fiber :). Dell has done a good job differentiating the product despite its nonexistence.
     
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    niiice:wub:

    if the 14Z had of come with with a 1080p screen i would have def gone for it, :frown:

    but given the 15R SE has quad core and 2GB Radeon HD 7730M i think thats gonna be my choice:wink:
     
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    Agreed, I believe he was speaking of the 14 when he made the comment about oranges and grapes and using the U (previously ULV) class IVB processors.

     
  26. willywidget

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    It also makes a lot of sense when you do look at the competition, even a 15" Macbook Pro which is thin and includes a quad core. The new Macbooks are rumoured to be even thinner.

     
  27. DvP

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    Search Google:

    MacBook Pro i7 overheating -> 220.000 results
    https://www.google.de/#hl=de&output...,cf.osb&fp=cc20488c2365abb2&biw=1920&bih=1099

    dell xps overheating i7 -> 133.000 results
    https://www.google.de/search?aq=0&o...,cf.osb&fp=cc20488c2365abb2&biw=1920&bih=1099

    MacBook Pro is not the ultimate machine to copy in terms of thermal design ;)
     
  28. lucjuh8

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    I think there won't be a new xps 15 (the big one from now) I think the l521x will replace the 15z and not the normal xps 15. the inspiron 15r special edition will take the place of the normal xps 15 as an competitor for the HP dv series in price and performance. The l521x will compete with the HP envy line and you will probably pay for the premium design. To conclude: I think the new l521x will be way more expensive than the current l502x without much better hardware.
     
  29. willywidget

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    Oh don't get me wrong, I am with everyone here when saying that I hope the thermal/throttling issues are a thing of the past. This is my biggest, perhaps only, worry about the XPS 15 now. Perhaps, and this is pure speculation, if the XPS 15 doesn't have an optical drive that it uses that space for heat dissipation.

     
  30. idontknow_lo

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    I will be disappointed if they do that, I want my next machine to be XPS (my previous one is Inspiron). Anyway, will see when it actually launches. To me, it looks like MBP when you look from far away.
     
  31. sensei22

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    Bill (or anyone in this forum), do you know if the models featuring AMD Radeon Discrete graphics can switch to Intel graphics for WiDi support? To me, not having WiDi is a deal breaker.
     
  32. Elands

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    It's been stated that the new XPS 15 will change the whole XPS brand meaning it will most likely replace the 15z and the 15 and still offer premium performance and design (since it will still be their top of the line multimedia machine). I would say you are right about the Inspiron competing with the dv series but I think we will all be very satisfied with the performance of the l521x.
     
  33. Jell0zz

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    No doubt about the performance, the only question now is the pricing.
    Where I'm from the dell xps 13 is priced as 1149€ lowest pricing (around 1439$) so thats 400+ bucks more than the 999$ it costs in the states.
    My budget is about 750€-800€ which translates to 1000$.

    So my issue will be the cost, hopefully the XPS 15 will be cheaper because of its lack in portability in comparison to the 13.3" ultrabook. But i doubt it.
     
  34. alfling

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    I can't see the point. I really don't give a sh*t if it looks like MBP, and I tell you why: we always complain that Apple makes beautiful products but sells them for twice their right price; if you want an Apple machine you must pay twice to have the half. This said, if that notebook is the new XPS 14/15, aren't you happy that it's so gorgeous? Personally, I want to have a well build machine, with quality components (both things usually provided by Dell) and if it's beautiful to see it's an added value to me! Even though it could be similar to another PC, I just don't care. I just care about having as much as I can with the same amount of money.
    And about price...Bill said, pages before, that it won't be much different from that of the old XPS15 (L502X) at the time it was launched...Besides, if you want to spend <1000€, just deal with the fact that you can't buy the best PC in the market (if you balance performance and portability I judge it the best).
     
  35. Elands

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the base model XPS 15 will be $999 as the base XPS 15 now is at $799 (although they are discounting it). I would guess that a slightly higher end XPS 14 would be around a $1000.
     
  36. alfling

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    I agree, maybe the HIGHEST configuration will be around 1700-1800€ (highest processor, FHD display, SSD, highest GPU, extended warranty.....)
     
  37. sshollan

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    I'm with you, but I think in the case of the ENVY there was little imagination used in the design. That's why I was kind of disappointed in that laptop, as well as the gimmicky beats audio integration. I appreciate that Dell has their own design language and they are trying to keep it consistent across the XPS brand. I think that the new XPS that was leaked in the CNet video looks excellent, and definitely has hints of the XPS 13.
     
  38. kDrum

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    How much was the base XPS 15 when it was launched? (L502x)
     
  39. Elands

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    It might not be that cheap! :rolleyes:
     
  42. Jell0zz

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    However we have been hearing that Dell is aiming for XPS to be on the upper-mid section of the sales and let the Inspiron fill the gap that the current XPS 15 will leave.

    I'm still hoping though :)
     
  43. mahapatra

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    I am only anxious about the display quality!
     
  44. Francesco V.

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    i guess starting price 1200 $, fullHD default display, base config, no ext guarantee
     
  45. Risco

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    There is zero chance it will launch at that price. It is has already been mentioned that XPS has gone premium again. I expect no less that $999 and probably more at launch.
     
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    Still hoping that Dell will bring a system like the Acer Timeline Ultra M3: Fastest Core i7 ULV + Strong GPU like nVidia 640, thin, metal, <1080p, good battery life. Did anybody of you find any notebook which could be close to these specs? Apart from the next Dell XPS 15Z which I hope to be such a machine :)
     
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    I wonder if Dell will come out with a touch screen XPS in the future to maximize the user experience of Windows 8.
     
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    Wait, so there is no more dell xps 17 right?
     
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    Yes, no more xps 17, but there is Ispiron 17 to replacement.

    Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2
     
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    Completely swamped today. Did not have time to read a single post. Thought I could pop in and knock out at least this thread before quittin' time, but holy shnikies! NO way. Big update today is I sent over a gaggle of "Dell is losing sales" comments, and I have the attention of leadership. Hoping to have a teaser page up about the product that may or may not be the subject of conversation here, and may or may not be a product Dell could possibly launch at some point in the future. If I have a teaser page up, I can open up the info vault a bit more.
    (My own book mark on where to start my replies tomorrow.)
     
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