New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

And usb 3.0 is 5Gb/s data transfer

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This is what we know:

10" subwoofer with full tower speakers
3 HDD and an ODD
37" IPS Panel
Pink Polka dot only color available
Runs at MINUS 30 degrees (people will still complain - TOO COLD!!)
nVidia GT700,000M with 2,000gigs of memory
Solves world hunger
Can beat Big Blue in a Checkers match

About sum it up?

Hopefully good for a laugh

 

And a 90% of full size keyboard they just can't quite figure it out!

 

The exciting part is when all the speculative posts become complaints because the final product wasn't what they were speculating Followed by 'Dell Bill said...' when he really didn't say it

 

The constant Apple bashing is getting old. I personally despise Apple as a company but the constant Apple bashing comes off to me almost as bad as the iSheep.

Note that Apple doesn't even allow you to run 2880x1880 for normal use on OS X. I believe the max they let you run the Retina display is 1920x1200. Running at 2880x1880 is not the primary intention of the high resolution panel. Because it is so high resolution, you can run at almost any non-native resolution without image quality penalties vs running at native resolution on more typical panels. The quality at 1440x900 should be fantastic since it is exactly 1/4 of the native resolution. This allows the scaling to fit perfectly within the raster image. Even 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 with scaling looks great and arguably better than a 1680x1050 panel running at native resolution.

Don't get me wrong, I would much prefer to buy a Dell than I would an Apple. I don't even think a 2880x1880 panel is necessary but I'm not going to let my fanboism trick me into thinking its not a nice thing to have.

 

Actually, both sentences are true

10Gb/s (Giga-BITs per second) = 1GB/s (Giga-BYTEs per second) / 8to10 parity&encoding... Just different measurement units!

Normally, for connections, bits per seconds is preferred (see your ADSL for example).

 

Given the amount of leaks, and that nearly all competitors have announced their next-gen products, this seems to be shaping up to be a terribly anticlimactic launch.

I do really appreciate Bill's presence and answering our questions. I imagine it's quite a challenge trying to strike the right balance between keeping enthusiasm high and keeping the guys at PR HQ happy. That, and being a really good sport about all of it ^_^

Re: Apple. Geez, guys. The new MBP seems to me to be a neat (even if not perfect or without sacrifice) design with an exciting new feature (the display). I think we can accept that some kind of forward technological progress is being made by the product without holding that it's a flawless execution with no downsides to speak of. Most of us care about display quality; why flip out about Apple putting pressure on other companies to give display quality pride of place in future designs? Even if you are aiming towards the XPS (or some other PC notebook), it's not a cardinal sin to acknowledge that something is attractive about Apple's new design, even if their corporate politics (and the consumer culture that surrounds the company) can be obnoxious.

 

Actually it's 8 bits to a byte, so 10Gb/s is 1.25GB/s.

OT: All I can hope is it's around $1000 for a decent spec in keeping with the current pricing.

 

AnandTech showed a win8 scenario using the full 2880x1800 resolution... in a word: stunning!

 

2 weeks away?! I guess it's a no go for June 22.

The previous time frame hinted was June 22 - July 1? Looks like it'll be the end of June or early July

 

I interpreted June 22nd - July 1st as being end of June or early July

 

Nope, because of the bit encoding, 8 bit will be encoded and so transmitted in 10 symbols, hence the difference...

Channel coding IIRC...

 

Lol I meant to say it'll be June 30 and on.

I was hoping next week though

Bell kindly said after June 21st lol.

 

This is the Dell forum for the upcoming XPS 15 L521x. If I want to bash Apple for being a technological, 21st-century Branch Davidian cult, I'm in the right place. Fanboism and trolling are when you support one platform on another platform's forum/thread/board. I'm not doing that. Now, back OT...

 

I'm about to jump ship for the envy 15 since this laptop is taking forever to come out. Can anyone think of advantages the xps 15 might have?

 

so far its thinner, not a bad color reporduction screen (no confirmation on it yet, and it prolly isnt ips), weight is about the same. some people like the xps design vs the "mbp copy" I personally like both

 

Envy was also my choice but the critical display issue is a total no-go for me.

About Apple, i think that fundamentalism on both side of the "warfront" is a nonsense. I never got an Apple product, i consider them too much overpriced for what they offer. I admit that Apple phenomenon is plenty of marketing, "coolness", brand, etc etc.
But.....but...i have to admit that Apple is the trigger that force other competitor to innovate because Apple for first innovate. Innovation in design and form factor and, generally, user experience is STILL innovation. Maybe realization then show some fault (i.e. overheating issues ) but the results is that they (apple) pushed on accelerator pedal and others competitor are forced to push on accellerator too.

 

honestly, i saw the panel and its not that bad. I guess if ur nitpicky enough then u wouldnt be able to stand it but still its an ips display that is better than alot of the choices offered. btw apparently there is a new panel out by LG that hp is using so it might be fixed..

 

Hahaha not a problem

 

I don't mind the design at all, and color reproduction isn't really an issue for me as long as the screen is still good, which everyone says it is. It seems like the specs should be the same except for the graphics card, and the envy comes out ahead in that regard. I'm starting to get more tempted to not wait....

 

and 45w cpus lol hurry up and release the damned products bill haha

 

Ignorance is ignorance, it doesn't matter which forum or whose side you are on.

Yes, this is a Dell forum. There is no requirement to praise Apple but it certainly shouldn't give license to misrepresent facts or ignore truths due to bias.

Also, Fanboy != Troll. I used the word "fanboism" to emphasize your bias not to imply that you are trolling.

I think they will be rather competitive with each other. The Envy 15 is a decent bit thicker than the new XPS 15, though both are fairly slim. I prefer the NVIDIA GPU in the XPS 15 rather than the ATI GPU in the Envy due to NVIDIA's better Linux support. In my opinion, it is hard to really evaluate until we get an official reveal of the XPS 15. On the surface they seem mostly similar but specs alone can only tell you so much.

 

thicker but apparently they weigh about the same according to the leaked specs. idk thats why i would personally prefer the xps 15 cause i thought it would be lighter. bill any input on this??

 

Still not enough for full DP1.2, because it would need at least 17.28 Gbit/s.
So very high resolutions, or multimonitor and one TB port doesn't work.
And for external HDDs the SATA controller is the limiting factor.
I can't think of any scenario, where TB would be worth it's overprice.

 

Maybe this video about replacement speakers on XPS13
could be useful to understand where are speakers in XPS14/15 and which kind they are...

Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook | Speaker Replacement | How-To-Tutorial - YouTube!

 

If envy has AMD graphics, AMD graphics switching is also a lot worse than Nvidia. Which would be big for me personally.

XPS build quality probably owns the Envy, but maybe I'm biased. I have had bad experiences with HP, but then again I never had a premium laptop.

 

Apple's design is always AWSOME, but man... 2300 bucks for a laptop... And you still have a 1GB GPU, uselessly high resolution (human's eye has limits.....), and a boiling unit you cant hold your hands on for a long time... This is not improvement to me...

I'm with you on this side, I see this as the only good aspect of that company for all the computer and smartphone lovers

 

Build quality is a priority for me since I need this to last. What makes you say that? Previous reviews of the 3000 series envy say it has great build quality and a solid case.

 

HP ENVY 15t-3200 Intel Core i5-3210 2.5GHz Ivy Bridge 15.6in Laptop $899.99

And for 899, its a smoking deal.

 

I agree. I like very much new XPS, but that is not a reason for say that XPS is the better laptot ever design.

XPS is better than envy because is thiner
XPS is better than MBP because is thicker
640M is the better GPU for a 0.95 chasis
ODD is better than 2º HDD/2º fan or bigger/650M option
TN display is better than a retina one..

XPS looks a great laptot but dont we praise everythig dell do. If tomorrow bill says that xps will have a 650M nobody will say "nooo we want the 640 one wich is cooler!!" .Let's applaud dell when they do well the things but we also must say what they have to improve

 

According to fixit- the new apple notebooks are almost impossible to repair now- they have soldered the memory, used proprietary HDD (which means to upgrade you have to go through apple and pay thru the nose again) and other proprietary issues- it's like a disposal laptop (or to encourage you to replace the whole system again in a year or two) - this is not a good or fair tech transaction- Apple should be boycotted for treating customers like morons!

 

its 10gb/s on a single channel, it has 2 channels per cable and those are unidirectional. a superior tech in every way if compared to USB3.

intel is pushing it, some pcs are adopting it, gadgets are getting out (finally), not to mention that the thunderbolt team is as busy as they can be, I hardly see it failing

its the air all over again, dont see it failing now.

so just 2 weeks for launch? lets hope it offers good competition to the envy 15

 

Hey I tip the story the theverge.com today they got my name wrong. I said to give credit to the muffin man they probably thought I was joking.

I did in hopes dell would see it and gives us some leaks or some news. oh well

 

The Vizio's are coming! The Vizio's are coming!

Vizio details its first laptops: two thin-and-lights and a mainstream 15-incher, available now for $898 and up -- Engadget

 

Vizio has launched its new notebook and ultrabooks, they are looking brilliant! Only downside is 640m LE in the notebook. But I have a gaming pc anyway so not much GPU needed, someone tell me why I should wait!

Hands-on: Vizio’s Beautiful, Bloatware-Free Ultrabooks Start at $898

 

Psst the Verge is so far behind us...

Dell shows off revised XPS 15 at Romanian Aviation Museum | The Verge

 

Something is wrong with Dell laptop prices in the UK. Full spec Inspiron 15 SE cost £960 but the same spec in Germany cost £760 without any vouchers or deals. Usually the prices were very similar, but not anymore.

Even backlit keyboard was £55 at the beginning and now changed to £30 as it used to be.

I did not hear about any tax increases so it looks like someone at Dell UK has made a mistake.

I strongly advise anyone not to buy anything from Dell and wait till the prices will be corrected.

 

Well, everything is a compromise. Folks want something as small and as light as possible while not compromising performance. Something has to give. I don't think its a conspiracy. For me, the compromise is not worth it but there are many others that feel otherwise.

 

Those Visios look awesome! 15" has 1080P + Kepler graphics while still thin and light, and the 14 inch looks nice too. The keyboard looks pretty solid...and nice price . I wonder about warranty support, though.

Over on dpreview there was a lot of noise over Nikon UK's rather inflated price for the D800 (relative to US price...maybe elsewhere too?). Anyone noticing a general pattern in inflated UK pricing recently?

 

thats too funny

 

10 year battery life due to cold fusion reactor

 

I think that might be eternal

 

it will be sick when we figure out fusion..... infinite power !

 

It says available now but no link to buy? Any idea on availability?

 

Guys, i can tell you this laptop is amazing. i actually prefer using it over my sager for everyday use. I can not go into detail but it is really, really nice.

 

troll?

 

this is currently the future.... for now

Lithium-air battery advance could be jaw-dropping improvement over li-ion | Ars Technica

 

Yeah I didn't give much info but I tipped them this morning. I want dell to give us something I'm ready to buy.

 

actually no, I beta tested this laptop and NDA is not lifted yet. So I can not go into detail right now. PM me I will prove it tomorrow after i get off work. working the grave yard and will be home.

 

It says you have PM's disabled. Why don't you just post it here? It's not like Dell can ID you from it.