New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

sorry i will not quote on that right now.

 

Attaboy! Everyone rep this fine gentleman (or lady, don't want to be sexist).

 

The only information that lack to us are:

- Technology screen (IPS,PLS,TN) and gamut
- Price
- To know if RAM is soldered (If yes will be very bad)
- Thermal dissipation

 

I hope no soldered Ram..It would be too Apple-stylish!

 

They won't solder the ram.

 

On the XPS 14 side no word on whether 630M is the only option, and whether it is the die-shrunk version. Any comment Bill? (in suitably obscure language, of course)

 

The indications suggest instead RAM it will be soldered, no external door for RAM like XPS13 that have RAM soldered...

 

From what it has seen with new the IspironR SE the new DELL policy is to reduce a lot the configuration possibility.
it is not probable that the GT630 is not die-shrunk.

 

Of all specs that were leaked, why oh why did no one leak the screen quality?

I've got an idea. Blink once for IPS, twice for PLS or three times for TN...

 

That would be a real pity if they don't offer a 16 GB upgrade! And that doesn't seem very likely, since Dell doesn't even offer a 16 GB upgrade on the new latitude models (but at least those you can upgrade yourself).

 

I would be keen on this as well Bill. Also being a Canuck. Could you tell me, if an XPS 15 were to exist, hypothetical and all, would the available options and configurations of the US Market be available in Canada? No specifics mind you.

 

I see. Well, doesn't do much good in any case since battery life will come from HD4000 (i.e. 630M disabled via optimus). Can't be thermals, either - Asus has an equivalent GPU in a much smaller chassis. Unless the XPS has a poor thermal design, it should run cooler than the Asus. So, if it's not battery life or thermals, why put a GPU only ~50% (avg) faster than the HD4000 (and lower-end than the GPU in the 14R SE) in an XPS-class computer that is well above ultrabook weight (and somewhat on thickness)?

Hence, why I thought I'd ask Bill about options. Maybe 630M is the lower-end option?

 

lol damn. well ill still want to be a beta tester haha i love tech ill keep in touch

 

I don't think so: XPS 13 is thinner, and maybe this required to solder RAM in order to save some space, but XPS 15 is a bit thicker. I think there will be enough space, since there's space for an ODD and 2 hard disks

 

Space enough for 2 HDD? Absolute Not.
There is space for one mSATA SSD (is big like a Wi-Fi card) and one HDD.
Sorry, but for me indications suggest RAM soldered.

 

Bill, maybe you can answer this question...

The XPS 13 is now available in retail outlets, i.e. Best Buy, whereas I've never seen an XPS (only Inspirons) available at such vendors before. Is it possible that a certain laptop, should it even exist, might find its way into retail stores like its smaller brethren, or was that a particular circumstance to make the 13 more readily available upon launch? IOW, is this a new direction for Dell sales/marketing?

 

Why would dell not use the die shrunk GT630M? Seems like it makes the most sense, and 28nm has been out for a while.

I second the want to be a beta tester ^.^

 

The only way I would be okay with soldered RAM is if they offer an upgrade to 16GB that isn't absurdly priced...

 

true that but ill be happy with 8 GB .....

i came late cant see the pics downlinx or however u spell it posted

i wanna be a beta tester to lol but i think dell will hate me really fast im a bit of a perfectionist ..... but if any one is signing up for it let me knw as well

 

They just proved he was a beta tester, nothing more.

 

+1 to the request of betatesting, if you want someone in the EMEA zone (Italy in particular)...

 

to put this in a way that Bill would understand, if the laptop found on the chinese links mentioned earlier were to hypothetically be a product of Dell, I may or may not buy it the moment that laptop may or may not be set to possibly go on sale

 

@Bill: in the current Dell's products (like XPS 13) with enclosed battery, is there any feature that makes them stop charge once battery reaches 100% and from that moment keep using energy from cable and not from battery? This would increase battery life significantly, I guess

I hope I have explained well enough, english is not my first language

 

That would be a very handy and valuable feature.

 

IIRC, that is controlled by Windows. I've seen the battery status say: 98% (not charging), but it could actually vary on different systems, I don't know.

 

That would make sense, this will be my first new laptop in a while and if I would have to charge it overnight it would just keep applying current to the battery. I'm lucky if I can get an hour of battery life from it.

 

Well, it makes sense between 28nm and 40nm parts; doesn't make much sense either way in terms of competing with other products in the same class (most of which have GT640M). 630/620M is for ~3lbs ultrabooks (e.g. Zenbook), not a 4+lbs XPS!

 

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but here!

Dell gives a peek at a revamped XPS 15 in Romania -- Engadget
Dell XPS 15 may debut with an all-new design - Notebookcheck.net News
Dell XPS 14, XPS 15 specs leaked (photos) | ZDNet

Looks like Dell is redesigning the XPS 14 and 15 to be like the XPS 13 style. It looks like they are thinning the chassis, putting in a slot loading drive, using the hybrid HDD+SSD setup, using a rubber surface and definitely using Gorilla Glass. Well.. what's going to happen to the XPS 15z?? From the pictures it looks like the 15z is going to be absorbed and discarded from the lineup.

I really love this design over the original design. Hopefully Dell didn't sacrifice any power, cooling, or anything else for looks. And.... 8 hour battery on the XPS 15... I hope it's true.

AND. THANK YOU DELL FOR NOT BLATANTLY COPYING APPLE. (Unlike many other manufacturers out there)

 

Yes, we covered all that over the past 100 pages. But thank you anyway.

 

what you are askin for is nice
but hear this lets say the battery is rated @ 11v
so that means the system can use a max of 11v on battery and a max of 11v on AC power

when on ac power lets say theoretically the system can use up to 19v but when charging the system will use 11v to charge the battery but laptop cant run on 9 volts alone especially if its running intensive apps so voltage is diverted from the battery to power the system an the remaining volts charge the batter hence y when a laptop is running the bettery takes longer to charge ....

when the bettery is fully charged the system is still gonna use a small amount of power it. The small power draw from the battery is put back instantly so the battery will stay at 100%.

If the battery stops charging at 100% and no power is going to it the the battery will discharge hence it won't be @ 100% when u need it since discharge rate will be different a cross batteries an systems

 

laptops nowadays have really good power management, the battery functions as a UPS, when the laptop is connected it uses the energy from the wall to work with, it doesn't mater what voltage he is running as he transforms it to what he needs, there is also a second transformer that charges the battery, it really doesn´t matter what voltage the battery is ratted at. when you disconnect from the wall he uses the energy from the battery and transforms it to what he needs.
As long as the charger can give enough POWER (Watts) to the laptop, he is not gonna discharge the battery.

 

Well said!

 

yea i knw that but if u leave a battery unused it had a small discharge rate is what i mean was just my own two cents an was a very dumb down version but i get ur drift

 

oh ok, hope it helped anyway

 

point was to let them knw there is a reason the battery is always charging even @ 100% there is a small loss of power an its replaced one time so its 100% all the time with out the effects of the battery's own discharge from nun use small ting i just want more details now its still between this XPS 15 and the Y580 from Lenovo

 

@ Downlinx, you mentioned earlier in one of your posts that the screen is a fingerprint magnet.

Why were you touching the screen?


Unless it's a touchscreen?......

 

How else do you expect to open the screen and angle it for optimal viewing? You have to "pinch" it with your fingers back and front to maneuver it and in doing so touch the screen.

 

Using the bezel you muppet

 

Hum.. the ideal would be for the battery only charge to around 80% and only discharge to around 20%, but that's not really practical. lithium batteries only discharge about 1% a month.

The only time laptops nowadays consume battery when they shouldn't is when they are turned of and not connected to the wall (really low power for some functions like turn on from predefined clock or lan), but even then the discharge is so small it should take months to discharge it.

My laptop only charges the battery when it gets lower then 95%, and there are some programs to stop it from charging to much, if a laptop is always charging a battery then there is a problem with it.

You should´t have any problems with both computers.

 

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Photo 19 shows the finger prints on the screen. Seems like it will be similar to an iPhone screen. Although I am sure if you take care you won't need to touch the glass. There is thin bezel to lift the lid/screen.

 

I hope they go with a magnetic latch for the lid. The last laptop I used you would have to wiggle it and wiggle it to lift it up with one hand or hold down the bottom with two. Quite the annoyance...

 

Looking at the photos i hope dell as some magic sauce for the cooling because that hinge seems to cover almost completely the exhaust, and the cooler should be something like xps 15z which already had enough problem without the lid.

 

I've deleted quite a few posts, keep it civil in here folks or it will go to thread lock.

 

thank you it was getting rowdy in here . But back on topic. There is a small bezel but u will still be getting ur hands on the glass. YES it is possible to open without touching glass but that would be too much of a hassle I would believe to 99% of the people to take special care to only touch metal/plastic (w.e the bezel is made of)

 

Would make a nice touchscreen for Win 8 though

 

actually that might happen... the current xps 15 has a tocuhscreen option

 

There is no bezel on a screen with end to end gorilla glass...

 

there has already been a war about this. There isnt a regular bezel on it. There is one to hold the gorilla glass in place. its really thin around the border so if u really wanted to u prolly could get away with opening it without touching the glass however, that is too nitpicky for most people

 

I don't know why they still have to keep this under wraps. We're only waiting on 2 small pieces of information now, screen and price.

 

So the miniDP port wont support thunderbolt eh? :/