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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Qbasix

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    Currently the Australian government is carrying out an investigation into prices for Australians on electronics/software/technology as some are highly inflated for no reason.

    Apple announced that the new Macbook would be a similar price to the US variant, before it was like 30% more on a lucky day.

    However Dell prices are good and not inflated here.
     
    Qbasix, Jun 16, 2012
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  2. ejl1980

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    Thats terrible. I take back my statement then. I hope they put an end to the gouging of other companies.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 16, 2012
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    Thank you for the information. So, pretty close to a 1:1 still. I'm sorry for all the non US Customers here.
     
    AMDPhenomx4, Jun 16, 2012
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    Please please please don't make it too expensive (the 15).

    The pics look really good so far, except I hate that space on the sides of the keyboard.

    One of my top choices IF it's reasonably priced.
     
    birdbird, Jun 16, 2012
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  5. BiancaL

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    For the XPS 15? That's only 400$ less than that estimate! :)

    1100$ would be a great price.

    I'm torn between this, the 15R SE and Asus N56. I don't really "need" a new lap but I feel like buying one ;)
     
    BiancaL, Jun 16, 2012
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  6. alfling

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    Speaking about keyboard...I don't know if I will be able to be confident with a rectangular ENTER button! :D
     
    alfling, Jun 16, 2012
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  7. Skareem2

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    well then that was a faulty design because the video i saw showed how hp takes thier time an produce / test each battery and also how fake hp batteries looked internally an they were poor an sad looking ...
    never heard anything bad about dell batteries .... so u should be good all i hear about is hp laptops
     
    Skareem2, Jun 16, 2012
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  8. JohnBDL

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    There are different keyboards in different regions.
     
    JohnBDL, Jun 16, 2012
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  9. Skareem2

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    i hate that space too i think they should have put a number pad as the speakers are in the lower front
     
    Skareem2, Jun 16, 2012
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  10. Elands

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    It is just me or did the recent pictures of the XPS make the keys look much better than in the first leaked pictures we had?
     
    Elands, Jun 16, 2012
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  11. alfling

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    Yes, definitely it was a bad designed laptop: HP Pavillion dv9283ea. Super overheating, which caused also plastics to deformate and break. But it had powerful hardware, so high battery drain and for sure the high temperature damaged the battery too. I've tasted Dell's quality with my brother's laptop, the current XPS 15 (which I'm using in this moment), but I also know that batteries are always a weak point in laptops..
     
    alfling, Jun 16, 2012
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  12. BiancaL

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    Right now I have 3 laptops (all 15.6).

    2 Asus - 1 simple basic specs (great laptop and worth every cent) and one mid-upper range also a good one.

    After 17 and 18 months of intensive use, the cheaper one has 2.2% wear level and the other one 5%!!!

    The Dell XPS 15 that is one year old exactly today (I5-2410, FHD) had a wear level of 19% after 10 months!!!
     
    BiancaL, Jun 16, 2012
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  13. Skareem2

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    it looks better its not u the whole laptop just makes me want it its fine :D
     
    Skareem2, Jun 16, 2012
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  14. Skareem2

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    hmmn that high though smh well if i go dell ill be callin them regular
    hello y is my battery ware @ 21 % fix it its only been a few months
     
    Skareem2, Jun 16, 2012
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  15. alfling

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    Wear level is the level of battery "degradation"?
     
    alfling, Jun 16, 2012
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    Batteries are damaged by excessive heat and deep charge cycles... keeping them plugged into ac allows the controller to charge to full capacity, then doing slight discharge and charge cycles to equalize the cell voltage. But, also when not used, what damages inexorably a Lithium battery is age... after 4 or 5 years since manufacture date, probably also a shelf battery will not last longer than the time I'm taking to write those letters... :rolleyes:

    Pay attention, integrated batteries are nowadays Lithium-polymer, older replaceable external batteries were made of (round) lithium-ion cells... the two technologies exhibits different wear resistance...
     
    infoMatt, Jun 16, 2012
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  17. BiancaL

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    All three batteries are external.
     
    BiancaL, Jun 16, 2012
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  18. infoMatt

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    Oh. My bad.
     
    infoMatt, Jun 16, 2012
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  19. ejl1980

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    Did you leave it fully charged and plugged in all the time?
     
    ejl1980, Jun 16, 2012
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  20. BiancaL

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    Yup. I just need the batteries as backup if the power supply goes down so the laptops don't get ruined or something.

    I treated all 3 the same.

    I use the batteries every two weeks or so down to 8% and refill back.
     
    BiancaL, Jun 16, 2012
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  21. alfling

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    Thank you for your experience, i really appreciate!
     
    alfling, Jun 16, 2012
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  22. ejl1980

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    Lithium Ion batteries don't like being fully charged. Not saying the Dell shouldn't perform better, but last time I checked a Li-Ion battery will lose approximately 20% capacity a year if left fully charged most of the time. How to Store Batteries – Battery University
     
    ejl1980, Jun 16, 2012
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  23. BiancaL

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    You're welcome :)

    Maybe that's true. but my point is that I treat all my laptops the same and use them in the same way and yet the Asus batteries are clearly superior to the Dell!

    One of the reasons may be that the Dell runs hotter than the Asus laps do which I guess is not good for battery life.
     
    BiancaL, Jun 16, 2012
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  24. ejl1980

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    Or its possible the ASUS isn't reporting properly. Or the ASUS uses a different battery chemistry.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 16, 2012
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  25. cokeboy

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    ive had my m1530 for 3.5 years now and my battery has degraded 25% in total (not that bad i find). its pretty much on all the time and if its off (which is only when i bring it to work or school) its always in sleep mode. i have it plugged in also pretty much all the time as well, except for lately ive been using the battery more often.

    im quite positive that whether you have your laptop on or off while being plugged in all the time makes a large difference. i see it as when you leave your laptop on it gives the power from charging a place to "escape" to, if you have it off the power has to go somewhere and the battery the hit.

    im probably wrong but it sounds logical to me and no one has ever called me out on it lol

    and another question i have. ive seen it advertised on laptops that they "get out of sleep mode in less then a second" is that something special? my m1530 has always been able to do that...
     
    cokeboy, Jun 16, 2012
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  26. xnap30

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    Pretty sure the xps 15 is $1299. That's how much it is in my Amazon cart. "Ships in 1 to 3 months"

    I posted this a few pages back with a screenshot
     
    xnap30, Jun 16, 2012
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  27. Elands

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    Could you re-post that or list the specs it posted? :)
     
    Elands, Jun 16, 2012
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  28. dalingrin

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    You can't overcharge a lithium ion/polymer battery. They have hardware level safety guards against this. Use a physical power meter with the laptop off and the battery fully charged to prove this to yourself.

    It is my opinion that people spend too much time worrying about their batteries. Someone who is paranoid and spends a ton of their own energy trying to keep the battery in perfect conditions are not likely to save more than 25% of the battery life over 3-4 years versus someone who mostly ignores their battery. I just don't think the extra time and worry is worth 25% of ~$130 for a new battery. Especially since no matter what you do, you will likely have to only change the *consumable* battery once in the laptop's lifetime.
     
    dalingrin, Jun 16, 2012
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  29. DavesIKnow

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    for me its just a crap shoot - i know their is science behind it - but some batteries just last longer than others...no matter what you do...some people just get a lemon

    i have never done anything extra to try and save the batteries life and always leave my laptop plugged in and have never had an issue...hope i never do
     
    DavesIKnow, Jun 17, 2012
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    This is random but I'm really hoping the price for specs is decent, just saw the Vizio notebook with 3610qm, 640m, 1920x1080, all for $1199.
     
    dkris2020, Jun 17, 2012
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    ^ where? Was there a Dual core model with the 640M for less?
     
    kDrum, Jun 17, 2012
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    I noticed on the Swedish Dell website that the current XPS 15 and 15z are offered with big discounts that expire after the 27th of June. L521x on the 28th then? :)
     
    w4rlock, Jun 17, 2012
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  35. alfling

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    Maybe, but they have been in discount for months
     
    alfling, Jun 17, 2012
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  36. nicob

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    They are set to launch on the 28th/29th with a probable teaser page next week (around the 19th/20th) IMO.
     
    nicob, Jun 17, 2012
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  37. alfling

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    I REALLY hope they will provide a Blu-ray writer option for the ODD...Every competitor provides it nowadays
     
    alfling, Jun 17, 2012
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    All I care about is the XPS price in the UK, which I have a bad feeling about.
     
    Greyout, Jun 17, 2012
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    Omg!!! The model with i7 has priced 2200$ if is true it's same price of MBPwRD

    Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2
     
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  41. BiancaL

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    Converted to US$


    XPS 15 i5-3210M/4GB/750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 1,789
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/8GB/750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 1,813
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/4GB/128+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 36 1,961
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/8GB/128+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 1,991
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/4GB/256+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 2,125
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/8GB/256+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 2,155
    XPS 15 i7-3612QM/8GB/750+32/BRCombo/7HP64 1080p 24 2,229
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/4GB/512+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p 24 2,556
    XPS 15 i5-3210M/8GB/512+750/DVD-RW/7HP64 1080p
    2,586

    OK, unless somehow the Poles have huge taxes, NO WAY AM I buying this. If they want to be the new Apple, so be it. :eek:
     
    BiancaL, Jun 17, 2012
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  43. ejl1980

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    Actually the poles do have very high import taxes. Import, export and tariff regulations, EU regulations | poland.gov.pl
     
    ejl1980, Jun 17, 2012
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  44. JohnBDL

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    Look at the price of the XPS 13 in poland is 5499 Zloty which is 1,634.93 dollars.. But the XPS 13 is only 999 dollars so they do get ridiculously over charged lol
     
    JohnBDL, Jun 17, 2012
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  45. Snit

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    Cost of MBP with Retina Display in Poland (2,3GHz and 256GbSSD) 10190 Polish zloty (almost 3000$) for comparing
     
    Snit, Jun 17, 2012
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  46. nicob

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    Bill suggested that the 1100$ was very close to the price of the XPS. Considering that the base price in Poland (according to the website link) is 1800$, take away 700$ off the polish price to get the US prices so they would go from 1100$ to 1900$ which is what we are expecting.
    Odd though that there is only one i7 option, especially since we saw the i7-3612QM with 1gb hdd/256gb msata from the Romanian website.
    I really don't think these are the right options for the US/Euro markets.
     
    nicob, Jun 17, 2012
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  47. BiancaL

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    Must be unbearable to live in Poland.
     
    BiancaL, Jun 17, 2012
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  48. Serephucus

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    I dunno how many times I've posted this, but you can't directly convert from EU to US prices; it just doesn't work like that.

    An Alienware M17x for example starts at $1,499 US (I think) where-as in the UK, it starts at £1,300 which is the equivalent of $2,100.
     
    Serephucus, Jun 17, 2012
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  49. downlinx

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    ok, i will confirm, those prices are not right and way off base. i will not give anymore information they are not right!!!!
     
    downlinx, Jun 17, 2012
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  50. ejl1980

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    Plus the US doesn't have VAT
     
    ejl1980, Jun 17, 2012
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