New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

I have no idea if that whole panel comes off or not, but many laptops hide their parts under the keyboard and palm rest. I have yet to see a hard to repair mainstream dell.

 

No problem. Heck sometimes they even have different and better reps on the phone for the higher levels.

If I was you I'd look into the Inspirons, but order from the business side.

 

May i ask what's better about the business side? And would i need to actually order it from behalf of a business to actually do this?

 

Yup, incredabily easy. My non-techy wife was able to replace a failed HDD in her L502X about a month ago with nothing more than the tear down guide and a screwdriver from my tool box.

 

Is it worth to keep comparing GPU between xps 15 and inspiron 17? 99% of the times 17" laptops have better Graphics cards, because they're able to dissipate more heat because or the bigger dimensions, it's not a mistery. Besides, also good design costs, and in the XPS 15 they managed to fit a lot of stuff in much less space than in the Inspiron

 

agreed lets hope they fit some good JBL speakers in there too

 

Yea, I guess you're right. Nobody is putting a 650m in anything smaller than a 17inch laptop, let alone a high end laptop like the XPS... Oh wait, yea they are.

 

The 11 inch Clevo is a perfect example why Dell wouldn't do such things. Dell sells the XPS to the higher end mass market, not the niche market like Alienware models or Clevos. If you look at the temperatures that machine is putting out using the GDDR3 650M, I would never want that.

 

It would be nice to have an option for it, options never hurt.

 

And by all accounts and reviews of that laptop, it's overheating to the point of uncomfortable usability. Just because a GPU fits, doesn't mean the device vents and layout can accommodate the heat output.

But I'm already in the choir... I would love to have a 650 option in the 15. It appears to have better vents to cool it down, and I'm betting at some point it appears as a choice. However, this initial launch will be very slim on options.

 

Does this mean xps 17 is dying or dead in the next release?

 

Sure, but Apple has the 650M in the new MBP and, while it appears to run fairly warm, I would think with the extra space on the XPS 15 they could probably accommodate it just fine? Seems to be the story with both the 15 and the 14 - specs lower than we would have expected, given the product-class (and price!) and size of the systems. I wonder what notebookcheck will have to say. In the Asus A95VM review, they referred to the 630M as a "dusty old" GPU

I think for a lot of us, we were expecting more because the price, and the impressiveness of the rest of the design, of the new XPS would seem to warrant higher-end GPU offerings. So, we want more because we want everything to be impressive . At least with the 15, though, use of 2GB GDDR5 should help push its 640M into range of some 650M offerings.

 

Can someone change the title of this thread or make a sticky that says there will be no XPS 17

 

Well the MBP is also significantly more (anticipated to be) expensive. I think the 2 GB of GDDR5 will make the 640M more impressive than expected. Come on guys. The 640M is a HUGE step up from last year's GPU offerings.

 

Hi,

The Inspiron 17R SE is the new high-end 17" offering. There are posts to this effect in this thread as well as the L721x thread. This question has been asked repeatedly, and the answer repeatedly offered (in fact, I have already noted it once before here!)

 

I'm pretty much sold on it already. The prices, based off bestbuys website, are right where I was expecting them to be. I'm just waiting for Dell to release it so I can buy it. The look of the laptop makes up for the lack of a 650m... I can live with out it.

 

I think with the 15, the graphics offering will turn out to be pretty strong and if I were looking for a 15" notebook I'd be satisfied with 640M/2GB GDDR5. It's nicely spec'd and, while not at the very bleeding edge of speed, is near there. Unfortunately, the 14 is really what I was waiting for.

 

I agree. If the 14 was a full power dual core with the 640M, that'd be my choice.

 

Even with a ULV dual-core, if it'd had the 640M I think I would have been happy. However, ULV + 630M seems like an ultrabook-oriented configuration, not that of a 4.7 lbs / ~0.8" chassis. Maybe they were going for battery life? That wouldn't explain the 630M, but maybe the ULV? Although, Lenovo's X220 and X230 use full-voltage parts and get battery life roughly in the same range as ultrabooks. So, I'm not sure there either.

 

Why did they make the bezel so huge? It looks terrible on the XPS 14. Not quite as bad on the 15.

 

It's not that big, just a mater of perspective.

 

I was interested in this model but Dell seem to have limited their customisation, so forsaking the i7 for a i5 but still wanting the best screen and GPU option may not be possible here unless you fork out and buy the i7 model. That and the old XPS models out here are still priced close if not more than a 1000 pound sterling and cost more than the Lenovo Y580 model which has the i7, GTX660M GDDR5, 8GB RAM, 1TB + 32GB SSD and 1920x1080 screen. Unsurprisingly that’s selling huge. Not sure what market the XPS will target here (China) particularly when the Inspiron models are so much cheaper and have better GPU and comparable CPU options.

 

Really like the XPS 14, looks quite beautiful actually. Shame about the CPU and GPU. A real i5 in there with a GT640M and good screen at 2kg = winner.

XPS looks just as big as the Y580 and as said, that's a great deal out here, the XPS won't be.

 

Y580? 1.41 inch thickness, 5.95 lb. weight, plus that numeric keypad that shifts both the keyboard and the touchpad to the left? Hmm...

 

It is rumoured to be 2.6kg, isn't it? The Y580 is 2.7/8kg.

 

I still dont c how the 15 is 5.7 lbs... its less than an in thick . The envy is 1.11 in thick and its also 5.7

 

I agree, I'm disappointed with the lack of customization options with Dell's products. Back when the Inspiron 1525 was out, you could customize everything and that included all of their products. For me, when I thought Dell I thought customized. Looking at their site now (IE: the new Inspirons) there is no customization at all. Without those options, Dell has me confused as to what they are all about.

Hopefully the new XPS will have better luck in that sense.

 

yeah really all dell allows you to customize now is the bundled software and warranty support.

 

I agree, being able to customize is one of the main reasons I still shop dell. I realize that customizing affects build times, but there shouldn't really be a big deal between 6 or 8GB of ram these days. Why not let us choose?

 

Exactly thats what dell was built around. Allowing the most customization possible. You can still customize the XPS line for now but we'll see about the next line...

 

@Dell-Bill_B

I've been lurking on this thread since it started and I want to thank you for providing what insight you can. My last two laptops have been Dells and I am strongly considering another Dell of the "unreleased" variety.

I have a question and I will try to word it in such a way that you might actually be able to answer it. I, and others on this thread, have noticed that the newly released Inspirons are only available in set hardware configurations. So my question is: What is Dell's philosophy on hardware customization for current and future laptops?

I understand that a more streamlined set of configurations is easier to manage for many reasons and this leads to lower costs that Dell may (or may not) pass onto customers. However, customization has been something Dell has excelled at in the past and is one of the reasons I have chosen to buy Dells. It's a balancing act and I wonder which way the scales are tipping.

 

This is going to be a tough choice for me. Dell XPS 15 or a Lenovo Y580, probably going to come down to the price. The Y580 is 1200, for the specs I would like and the XPS 15 may be 1500. Don't know how Dell plans to compete at that price with similar speced notebooks, like an HP Envy or the Y580.

 

Except the Y580 is a tank compared to XPS

 

Floppp... Delete....

 

thats what i was thinking . but the envy isnt

 

+1 for this request

 

Since I'm looking for a new business laptop with a reasonable GPU to play some games I was comparing the Lenovo to the Dell.

My experience is that Lenovo is not a bad manufacturer but Dell has in my opinion a 'higher standard'.
Nevertheless if I make a comparison at this point with the information we got so far, the scale is not really tipping into the XPS favor.
I know that the Lenovo is normally more expensive and this is a discount offer, but if I had the buy a laptop today I come up with the following list:

Dell - 15.6" XPS Laptop Model: XPS15-2500 SKU: 5700344
around $1200 to $1300

3rd Gen Intel® Core ™ i5-3210M processor
NVIDIA N13P-GV graphics (GT640M 1GB GDDR5 dedicated video memory)3 USB 3.0 ports
6GB DDR3 memory
15.6" WLED high-definition display
750GB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm) + 32 GB SSD
Blu-ray Disc-enabled DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Built-in Intel® 6235 wireless LAN (802.11n)
6-cell lithium-ion battery
Weighs 5.9 lbs. and measures just 0.9" thick

VS

Y580
$1149 (ecoupon)

3rd generation Intel Core I7-3610QM Processor ( 2.30GHz 1333MHz 6MB)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX660M 2GB
8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
15.6" FHD LED Glare Wedge 1920x1080
1TB 5400 rpm
Blu-ray/DVD-RW
Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200BGN
6 Cell Li-Polymer
Weighs 5.95+ lbs.

I wonder why Dell has chosen the 7200 rpm disc over the 5400 rpm. Especially when you've got a fast 32 GB SSD next to it. The increased speed on the disc would not compensate for the extra heat and battery consumption, in my eyes.
The Dell has a HD display, but I'm not sure if it's FullHD or if it's gonna be a option.

 

The new XPS 15 (L521X) will definitely have a 1080p display (fullHD), even thogh I don't know if there will be an option for a lower 720p display. Maybe. I think 7200 rpm is good, so you have more speed to read/write files on you HDD. Btw, we're pretty sure there will be an option for a 1TB 5400 rpm HDD, so you can chose this one if you prefer lower rpm. And the XPS' battery should be a 9-cell Li-Polymer, not a 6-cell Li-ion.

What about the teaser page?? It's June 20th!

 

What else now in the teaser page?

 

Lenovo Y580 vs. Dell XPS15 all comes down to size and weight of the machine.
Personally I need a slim and powerful machine that's not too heavy since I will pretty much always have it on me. For this reason alone the Lenovo is a no go. To be honest, even the Envy is too thick, and the XPS is my limit in terms of thickness. I wish it were a bit lighter but it's still acceptable IMO.
If you don't have such constraints then the Lenovo might be the best option.

 

Please what teaser page?

 

Bill told us a while back that a teaser page "should" come out before the laptop is revealed. Considering we are just 9 little days away from "D-day" well we expect it anytime soon.

 

We all want XPS here, we want the bimbo with the wow attitude, sorry Mr Lenovo, you can be cheaper, i prefer the sexy thing !

Peace

 

Is the new XPS 15 going to be as slim as the hp sleekbook?

 

So it's a given that in 9 days an official announcement will be made?

 

We've seen a huge amount of leaked informations and images so far, but we can't say how many of them relate to the real machine, how many to a prototype and how many are only speculations. Bill said that a teaser page with some OFFICIAL informations could possibly be out before the final launch of the laptop, and he hinted that the final launch should fall between June 22 and July 1st (that's why we speak about 9 days). Thus, we all expected that teaser page in this week, maybe before 22th

OT: This thread is reaching the "Dell XPS 15 R2 - L502x - Owners Lounge " thread, and the laptop has not been lauched yet!

 

I thought he said if he could convince them it'd come out just before, like less than a week, and suspected release day is more than a week.

 

I will never buy another Lenovo either. Ive only owned two Lenovo, but both had parts white lists. I couldn't just buy off the shelf wireless cards, because when I did, the Lenovo wouldn't boot. Terrible.

 

This comment from Bill was date June 14th, so two weeks later would put it on the 28th, add to this a security margin (i.e. the end of the week he was talking about, the 28th being a thursday) and you have Friday June 29th. Thus 9days maximum before product launch. Then again 2 things can happen: it could either be pushed back again (I hope not!) or the "around" Bill mentionned puts it a at bit less than 2 weeks and it will come out in one week's time, on wednesday!

 

Check his reply on my question in the XPS13 thread.... ;-)

2 days !

Have phun