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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Smittycjackson

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    How well will the new xps 15 do with adobe premiere pro cs6 video editing with the leaked specs. Or would the AW be the better option?
     
    Smittycjackson, Jun 25, 2012
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    if the top is in fact a rubber base compound you do not want to use a lighter fuel as it will soak in to the rubber and leave a stain.
     
    downlinx, Jun 25, 2012
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  3. ejl1980

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    Yea, I'd suggest against using any kind of petroleum product on a rubber base like that.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 25, 2012
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  4. BoolQ

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    True...beauty is subjective...but i also think that xps' are the best looking laptops at this moment. Hope the xps 14 will be around 1000$.
    Tomorrow is the release?
     
    BoolQ, Jun 25, 2012
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  5. gaidin43

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    The red/orange issue with the hp envy. Sorry don't know why it didn't quote the whole post.
     
    gaidin43, Jun 25, 2012
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  6. dorekk

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    No. You don't game with touchpads.

    Incidentally, I find the stickers on top strange. The XPS13 doesn't have any stickers, they're all located under that XPS panel on the bottom. Weird that they wouldn't do that for the 14 and 15.
     
    dorekk, Jun 25, 2012
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  7. BiancaL

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    Yup. I think it's one of the best designs I ever saw in this laptop category (slim, powerful 14-15" laptops) :)
     
    BiancaL, Jun 25, 2012
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  8. CUsurfer

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    Yeah it's subjective, but it's kind of like comparing a C6 corvette to a Lamborghini Gallardo. But hey, if the C6 works for you, then by all means... :)
     
    CUsurfer, Jun 25, 2012
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  9. Musimaniac

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    it's more like comparing the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 and the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Fbg par Hermés. You get exactly the same hardware, but you end up paying 1M$ extra for a few design touches and the name on the chassis
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  10. ejl1980

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    I'd actually equate it more to buying a Honda and Acura or Nissan and Infiniti. Same internals.... different shell. Which one you think is nicer looking is up to you.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 25, 2012
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  11. BoolQ

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    So...tomorrow is the reveal?
     
    BoolQ, Jun 25, 2012
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  12. ejl1980

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    Thats the rumor. Also they are having a XPS chat on Google + wednesday, so thats the last possible day.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 25, 2012
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    Very busy day today at the office. I have zero time right now to catch up. If I can shake free later today, I'll respond to comments starting here (<-personal bookmark).

    In the meantime, watch the Direct2Dell blog in 14 hrs and 40 mins from now for news of note.

    YouTube link for the G+ hangout simulcast. The hangout seats will fill up fast. I'll drop the direct link to the hangout on the G+ page in after I get my seat. lol
     
    Dell-Bill_B, Jun 25, 2012
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  14. CowboyCoder

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    Funny how it expires just as the XPS is released. They're obviously worried they'll lose sales over it, so they have tried to get in first with the big discount to entice people to buy the Envy. If the Envy was better or even the equal of the XPS they'd have nothing to fear, surely? Frankly I'd rather pay the extra for the Dell.

    My previous company was exclusively Dell (1000+ computers). My current company is exclusively HP (900+ computers). Dell wins hands down on reliability & support. Design is largely subjective but if I'm spending my own money then it's Dell all the way.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    CowboyCoder, Jun 25, 2012
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  15. wankel

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    Awesome, thanks Bill.
     
    wankel, Jun 25, 2012
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  16. Dell-Bill_B

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    NP. Check the edit to my comment. :)
     
    Dell-Bill_B, Jun 25, 2012
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  17. Risco

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    There is a rather large hole burning in my pocket right now! I hope I can put the flames out soon. :D
     
    Risco, Jun 25, 2012
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    Eh...my analogy was much better. You don't get the same hardware. The processor is worse, the GPU is worse and the build quality/materials are surely worse. In spite of all of this, however, the performance is still pretty close (at least, to the bottom-end MBP) and it's much cheaper of course. Very similar to the C6 / Gallardo comparison I put forth. Hey, you don't have to sell me, I'll be getting the C6 :). You can't beat the overall value. But I'm not delusional either--the MBP is the pinnacle of notebook engineering, both in form and function. Too bad it costs so damn much.
     
    CUsurfer, Jun 25, 2012
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  19. Bronsky

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    I work in a small professional office that was exclusively a Dell shop for a long time. We used mostly Latitudes for the professionals, Vostros for the staff and an occasional Precision for heavy work with aerial image creation and editing.

    A couple of years ago, the company changed the policy and permitted the purchase of HP Elitebooks and Lenovo Thinkpads (I have the only consumer notebook in the firm, but that's a different story). All three are equally reliable, service is similar, but the Dells are much less expensive, when you take into account the added cost of a three year, on-site next day, or better, warranty. Because of that, we are still mostly a Dell shop with a couple of Elitebooks and a growing number of Thinkpads.
     
    Bronsky, Jun 25, 2012
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  20. ejl1980

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    3AM wooo. You were serious about a world wide launch at the same time huh ;)

    Good luck today Bill! Thanks for all your contributions to this thread!!
     
    ejl1980, Jun 25, 2012
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  21. Xps13SAM

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    Why is everyone reposting what Bill said?
     
    Xps13SAM, Jun 25, 2012
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  22. ejl1980

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    Its called replying to a post. Not sure what your issue is with it.
     
    ejl1980, Jun 25, 2012
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  23. Risco

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    Risco, Jun 25, 2012
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  24. Musimaniac

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    I can read the news over my breakfast, at 8am...
    The only plus of living in europe ;)
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  25. The Muffin Man

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    That's your opinion and everyone is right in their own opinion, but that doesn't mean you're right in fact.
     
    The Muffin Man, Jun 25, 2012
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  26. Musimaniac

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    He's mostly right, if you consider both the form and the function. That is, I've yet to see a notebook wich is both that powerful and that beutiful (where the concept of beauty is limited to thinness and build/material quality, but still subjective). If you take them apart, there are more powerful and more (arguably) beautiful notebooks.
    Anyway, I expected a similar response, given my tease with the bugatti metaphor... I was just poking fun at apple per se, more than in this specific scenario :)
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  27. dorekk

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    Form, maybe, but function? Ridiculous. Too few USB ports on every model they make, and they're too close together to plug in large accessories, insane temperatures...it's pretty, but I don't think anyone can call it the best-engineered laptop when you consider everything. Not to mention that the Retina version, which is clearly the way the series is going, is 100% non-repairable and non-upgradeable. I think that makes it the worst laptop on the market, not the best.
     
    dorekk, Jun 25, 2012
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  28. Xps13SAM

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    No no I'm saying that on my tapatalk app it shows that multiple
    People are copying and pasting what bill said into a post and then posting. Chill
     
    Xps13SAM, Jun 25, 2012
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  29. Xps13SAM

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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1340643979.750695.jpg

    See
     
    Xps13SAM, Jun 25, 2012
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  31. Musimaniac

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    that's my point! (sort of)
    it's got some serious design flaws, and you could certainly find a notebook that does something (or a more than a single thing) better than the mbp, but it's very difficult to find a notebook that it's better than it in every department.
    That makes the mpb (probably) the pinnacle of notebook engineering. That's mostly due to lack of worthy opponents and depends on you definition of engineering quality
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  32. dorekk

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    Are you saying that the Macbook Pro is so beautiful that its numerous shortcomings in practically every area compared to its competitors don't matter? Because I think that's insane.
     
    dorekk, Jun 25, 2012
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  33. dalingrin

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    Most don't have issues with PSK and you definitely shouldn't have any issue with recent CM9 nightlies. They use an entirely different wifi driver and wpa supplicant.

    I'm with you on this except I wish some PC manufacturer would copy their touchpad. Its seriously so much better than anything on PCs. I'm not talking about software issues with Windows either.
     
    dalingrin, Jun 25, 2012
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  34. dorekk

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    In Windows 8, I like the touchpad on my XPS 15 L502X as much as a Macbook. The problem is that you never know what kind of touchpad you'll get on a Windows laptop. My girlfriend's touchpad is horrible, while mine owns.
     
    dorekk, Jun 25, 2012
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  35. Musimaniac

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    no, I'm saying that no other manufacturer to date has squeezed so much in a chassis so thin and sturdy, creating a laptop wich is still usable. As I said, it all comes down to your definition of "engineering prowess". Do you value power to size ratio? power to max temps? chassis durability? It's an incredibly complex and strongly subjective discussion, and I'm only holding this argument because it's fun (and very educative) to discuss in a language that is not my own ;)
    peace
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  36. alfling

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    Maybe some hot water?
     
    alfling, Jun 25, 2012
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  37. Auron

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    I just got a Dell brochure in the mail that has pics and details about the new XPS. When I saw I immediately went to the Dell site but could not find details on it. It says "prices from 1299" for the 15.6.

    Isn't it odd to see details in a brochure when it hasn't been officially revealed online?
     
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  38. The Muffin Man

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    Photo the brochure pages and post 'em up. :)
     
    The Muffin Man, Jun 25, 2012
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  39. Elands

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    Was just gonna say this, pictures please :D
     
    Elands, Jun 25, 2012
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    thanks bud, will try it again. i just know when i would try to connect, i would not give me anything i wanted when try to connect to my home network.
     
    downlinx, Jun 25, 2012
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  41. justaguyin2011

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    Personally, I look for these things in this order:

    1. Build quality (reliability/durability)
    2. Build quality (fit and finish of the chassis)
    3. Hardware spec, decent keyboard and ergonomics
    4. Decent screen
    5. Looks and styling

    However, looks and styling are incredibly important to me despite being bottom of my list - hence finding the perfect laptop for me is so difficult. The Samsung Series 9 is near as damn it there, except the horrible keyboard.

    ThinkPads tick all the boxes but look like a slab from the 80s.

    I think Dell has the balance just about right (Latitude/XPS). If the XPS 13 could be upgraded to 900p and 8GB RAM it would tick all the boxes too.

    Really looking forward to the new XPS 14/15 - real MBP competitors in my eyes. I could never buy a Mac because I am a Windows .NET developer. Yeah I could install Windows on it but it would never run properly, would have driver and support issues and has a stupid command key instead of Windows key. Oh and Fn and CTRL are in the wrong place ;-)
     
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  43. Musimaniac

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    weird, it was 27 when I last checked... Maybe they postponed? :confused:
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  44. Auron

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    I can't get in trouble for posting the brochure pics right? I'm guessing an official announcement is imminent. I have to say, the new 15.6 looks really nice. Best looking laptop I've ever seen. Makes me want to sell my L502 :D
     
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  45. Xps13SAM

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    It's really not necessary to start Mac vs PC fight in here. Get out.
     
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  46. Musimaniac

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    no, unless you work for dell :)

    now hurry up! :D
    Thank you!
     
    Musimaniac, Jun 25, 2012
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  47. The Muffin Man

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    We'll all chip in for the lawyer if you do. ;) Just kidding. No, no trouble at all. I, myself, have posted dozens of pictures of the new XPS. Go ahead. Do it if you can. Thanks.
     
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  48. Xps13SAM

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    Post post post!
     
    Xps13SAM, Jun 25, 2012
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  49. Dell-Bill_B

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    It's on us to ship stuff out on a correct schedule. If you have materials sent from us (or anyone), feel free to post whatever you like without fear of any reaction from Dell. Our problem would be with anyone who sends information out off schedule, not you.
     
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  50. CUsurfer

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    Oh please, it was me who drew the extended comparisons most recently, not him, so if you're going to blame anyone, blame me. Besides, there have been numerous other references to the MBP in this thread, so to single out one person is ridiculous. It's only natural to compare the two, especially if the high end XPS is priced close to the bottom spec MBP. I do agree to some extent that you must be careful not to let the conversation devolve into a generic Mac vs PC debate devoid of real content, but specific spec by spec comparisons aren't a bad thing.
     
    CUsurfer, Jun 25, 2012
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