New Dell xps 17(l721x)

Yeah why dell always delay the launch date of this model. hmphh

 

They are waiting on Intel to release the rest of the Ivy Bridge processors...which is slated for sometime in June (late June IIRC) right now. Hence July.

 

I thought that intel already release the i7 will make other manufacturer will do an all out launch for each of their product and model.

 

Yes, I know the difference. And I'm afraid about IDLE (fan noise) not load.

 

The fan on idle was whisper quiet, even when browsing the net. Dont worry, even under load the quality of the speakers easily drained the fan noise out.

 

The i7s were released recently, yes, but not the i5 chips which will be a large chunk of sales with these machines, as they were last year.

 

I think i5 is not a real worth to wait since it is perform less better for xps class if i may says. thx

 

Hopefully, because I've just bought one (i7, 8GB, 500GB, GT555, DVD-RW, FHD)

I've heard some bad opinions about system noise in this laptop (especially with fan starting and stoping every few minutes, sometimes seconds). Don't remember about the temperature however I have bad memories about this in my previous model - XPS 1645 (which is very warm under keyboard).

I hope l702x will be better

 

Well you may be right but it is still going to be offered I'd wager. HP just announced release dates of July 25 for the DV-series, I'd imagine a similar date for Dell.

The l702x is not really bad on temps for a laptop. Nothing like the 1645 series, there are many here who switched last year and commented on how much better it is in cooling. Now, it is still a laptop and running it full out it will still get warm (some would say hot, but it is more of just warm to me, even on the WASD keys which are basically right over the CPU/GPU heatsink), but it won't burn your hands on the outside of the case.

 

lol, still nothing, dell is losing competition. The hp envy 17 and 15 has been announced with ivy bridge. So is EVERY other laptop that is supposed to get an update with ivy bridge.

 

HP has not announced the Envy 15/17 refreshes. There have only been leaks from HP's site.

 

Considering that the XPS 15 will be announced in June for a probable July release (according to the Dell Rep Bill in the 15" topic) there's no point in revealing the 17" sooner. If I were a betting man I would expect Dell to reveal both at the same time, as they did with the new alienwares.

 

There is no way that Dell would announce the XPS 17 any earlier than the XPS 15. When Dell announces the XPS refresh it will be for both the 15 and 17 in models.

 

agree. i think dell should be fairer in launching date of one model in 2 different size like hp and asus did.

 

This, not really any reason to release them seperately.

 

well that's quite a good news. But did u know when dell will release its xps 15 and 17 with ivy bridge? hmm

 

As we've said a bunch of times, nothing has been announced even in terms of an announcement date. But late June/early July is the most likely candidate.

 

ok. i think i'll go with asus maybe. if it's delayed till august(assume). hmm

 

I think it will be for sale in 2.5 weeks. The Ivy Bridge i5's release on 3 June, the i5 is the lowest CPU option on the new XPS.

 

I definitively think not

 

The Alienware line went that way. I really hope the XPS line follows that same path.

 

well i hope this xps the usb 2.0 still endured and exist like previous model. Not all usb 3.0. I know it's good but in this part dell could make it balance and not removing the e-sata/usb 2.0 combo port. and the minimum vga card isn't 1 gig but 2 GB and max 3 GB

 

The extra VRAM is useless on the GT cards. 1GB is all you need...the 3GB VRAM on the 555m is the biggest joke ever. Don't get me wrong, it's a great card, but it cannot possibly use more than ~1.5GB...

And why do you want some USB 3.0 still? USB 2.0 devices still work fine in USB 3 ports. No reason not to have them all be the newer port, although I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2.0 still there.

 

I want no USB 2.0 ports, I want all USB 3.0 ports or better yet 3 USB 3.0 ports and a Thunderbolt port. I think one of the ASUS new notebooks a (17 inch) has that or a similar combination of ports.

Of course I don't like the current XPS design I like the black xps 16 design (I think that's the one) from about a year or two ago.

When is the next design due?

 

yeah but even i have usb 2.0 device plug in usb 3.0. it will having transfer rate as usb 2.0 speed instead of usb 3.0.

 

Sorry posted in the wrong thread!!

 

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unless your running multiple monitors you dont need more than 2gb of vram, when i had my 555 i did notice skyrim was using 1.5gb of it with texture packs etc, not sure how much more it would use.

Btw, i'd be interested to see what temps the ivy's on laptops get to when they are released. If someone would run prime95 for 10mins or so that would be interesting as my desktop variant isnt actually too bad, even when overclocked to 4.2ghz it still didnt go over 70c on any core.

 

Will dell xps l721x will use gorilla glass like xps l521x? and will it come with higher class speaker like hp envy 17 which consist of 6.1 speaker? hmm

 

If your DEVICE is USB 2.0, it cannot transfer at 3.0 speeds. You need the extra contacts of USB 3.0 devices for the extra speed. But, USB 3.0 DEVICES can fit in USB 2.0 ports (and will run at the lower speed), and USB 2.0 devices will work exactly the same whichever port type they are plugged into. No real reason to have USB 2.0 ports anymore.

 

well i know all laptop will overhaul with usb 3.0 and no usb 2.0 anymore. but i hope the e-sata still exist then. hehe

 

Ah, yes. I agree, keep an eSATA port.

 

It's redundant. It's slower than USB 3.0, and not really that common. I've never used it. I use USB all the time.

 

About the sound the Inspirons SE are getting speakers from Skull Candy, dont know if thats any good, the XPS might go that way.

 

i think skull candy speaker is not really as good as JBL since skull candy is targeted to lower to middle consumer if i may say.

 

not really redundant, it's native to most chipsets, and as such is less trouble than usb 3, which is still an add on chip on board the motherboard, requiring firmware and driver updates, and has been known to behave oddly, whereas eSATA is nothing more than an internal connection re-socketed on the outside, you telling me that your preference would be to connect an internal drive, say for your OS to the internal usb3 headers ? external drives have been known to behave differently with things like norton ghost etc when mounted in usb or firewire caddies as opposed to direct sata hook up. Granted it is less common on notebooks lately, as is firewire, but that is just a sucessful marketing platform that has sold usb as the best thing since sliced bread - it's not, it might be the easiest, but for example, firewire does not require hubs, you can daisy chain devices - not good for the accessory makers because they can sell you hubs that technically you should not need, that slow down usb 2 to a crawl, whereas firewire wont unless you run all devices together ! usb should never have surpassed firewire, but it was apple designed and as such was targeted by ms and intel, that is why firewire 800 would not run at full speed on winxp without a lot of messing, because they deliberately crippled it in the os/drivers

 

Very well put there. Although USB 3.0 is 2x faster, eSATA's still a lot more stable. If only they made an eSATA 2.0/3.0 It'd be tons faster than a USB 3.0 drive.

 

With the advent of Cougar Point, USB 3.0 is native now too. You point is valid though, but only for anything before that. But, seeing as we're talking about the new line-up, I don't see a reason why they wouldn't all be USB 3.0.

 

you can, simply hook an internal connector to an external backplane mounting socket, the white paper and specifications for SATA II onwards is for them to be hot swapable, and Native NCQ which if i remembber correctly was the only differences on the original SATA I - it was not always hot swapable

fair point, new chipsets should in theory start integrating this, thus increasing stability.
As for the speed issue, on paper i would agree, however there were many things that dont always tally up in the real world, data throughput is one of them, i still havea SCSI Ultra320 adapter in a desktop and use it for a downloads drive, the throughput on that bus seems to allow things to run much smoother when i'm hammering the crap out of the downlaods and un-rar'ing things
as for the new line up, yes, if they are all truely native, then you would hope that they were all v3 however they can get multiple v2 ports for the same bandwidth/pipeline of one usb3 socket, will be interesting to see what they do

 

Point taken, and very true RE USB 2 vs. USB 3 bandwidth. Hadn't considered that. Suppose it might look nicer on a spec sheet to have two USB 3.0s and two USB 2.0s, rather than three USB 3.0s. Who knows?

 

I think it's the number of USB devices that realisticly dont need USB 3 ... so if you can get the market data regarding what things people like to add to laptops, and i bet they can/do, i guess mouse maybe keyboard, both of these dont need usb 3 but could take up more than one socket, people will have usb2 pendrives still, it's mainly for things like fast external drives and such, so yeah spec sheets are also a serious consideration

 

I wonder if dell will consider thunder bolt ports on their future machines. As apple has become succesfull with it. I also actually have the pins for a TB port on my z77 motherboard.

 

i also hope in this upcoming model dell will keep the old design but suppress both of it below 3 kg and make it thinner. hehe

 

Apple hasn't been successful with it. Apple is the only major OEM that uses the port, there are only 5-7 devices capable of taking advantage of it, and no one else in the industry has adopted it -- not even at Intel's bequest. TB gets 1 GB of throughput, USB 3.0 gets 500 MB. Not a big enough difference for anyone to waste the crucial real estate on a laptop to accommodate the <1% willing or wanting to use TB. TB is another FireWire/Memory Stick/Betamax, etc.

 

Agreed, the only things that could/should make use of that sort of throughput would be video straming/cameras .... exactly the sort of thing that Firewire was also perfect for, yet failed to be adopted as the standard (which in my eyes at least was a shame)

Unless of course you could string a few external drives together through it, maybe a raid array

 

in dell ireland dell xps l521x specs are already announced although is removed again. but does xps l721x already revealed or not. hmm

 

i doubt that dell wouldn't release the xps l721x. since when i see this site
Help Me Choose: Display | Dell. 14 and 15 are listed, but no 17, what's wrong with dell. hmmm

 

XPS 17 is there on your link & ofcourse, Dell will release 17 too.

 

What he meant was, at the far right both the new XPS14 and XPS15 are listed with resolution, nits and Gorilla Glass bezel. The XPS17 however is nowhere to be seen, which makes you wonder if there is a 17" coming at all.

 

Yeah u got what i mean. Anyway will dell xps l721x use corning gorilla glass or not? hmmm

 

still no proper 16:10 screens i see, only 16:9 (1920x108 instead of 1920x1200 as is standard for pc's)